MSI Board K9VGM-V (MS-7253): Using MSI Live Update

Available for download is MSI's Live Update. Considering using this to update my BIOS. I am aware about the dangers of flashing. I am trying to be as safe as possible about my upcoming attempt. But look at what it says about my particular board under the "Notes" section of the Live Update download.
http://global.msi.com.tw/index.php?func=downloaddetail&type=utility&maincat_no=1&prod_no=260
It says and I quote "For K9VGM-V (MS-7253) mainboard, please do not select the DMI optopn." (I am sure that last word is supposed to be option).
DMI? What is DMI? I assume it is this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Desktop_Management_Interface
So my question is...
What does that mean? What am I supposed to do? Is this DMI some option in the program that I am not to select? Or is this whole Live Update process fall under DMI and people with my board can't use it whatsoever? Am I screwed or what should I do? I am trying to be very careful here.

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I am trying to be as safe as possible about my upcoming attempt.
If that is true, you should under absolutely no circumstances use MSI LIve Update to update your BIOS. There are quite a few threads here in the forum that were opened by users that rendered there K9VGM-V Boards useless because of using such a risky Windows based update application. So please, in your own best interest, forget about MSI Live Update, de-install it completely and stay away from it.
If you really think, that you need to update your BIOS, please be sure that this is really necessery. Flashing a BIOS for no specific reason is not really recommended. Never change a running system!
Please be sure about your current BIOS Version before thinking about a BIOS Update. Maybe your current version is more recent then you think or even the latest one already.
In case a BIOS Update is really necessary, please >>Use the MSI HQ Forum USB flasher<< for minimum flash risk and easy handling.

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MSI Live Update Installation Causes Windows XP To CRASH!!

I have a MSI K9VGM-V (MS-7253). Product specs are here: http://www.msicomputer.com/product/p_spec.asp?model=K9VGM-V
I have attempted to obtain my updates for my drivers and utilities. MSI uses the Live Update to detect and suggest these for your system. However, I cannot get the software to install to my PC. I have tried to do in through the website AND by downloading it and running it off the hard drive. Each time it gets into the install process and during it - (Boom) - My PC Reboots. When Windows XP (Home Edition) boots up, it says "Windows has just recovered from a serious error." It goes through the reporting to Microsoft process and takes you to their website where it says "You have received a blue screen error. Unfortunatly we were unable to detect what caused this." Then goes on to suggest to restore your files or restore to an earlier state if your system has become unstable (blah blah). Now I really didn't ACTAULLY see a blue screen, the PC just rebooted. I am aware of the blue screen of death and all that. I understand the concept. But I don't know what could be wrong. My system is very basic with little upgrading from me. I have installed all the Windows Critical Updates, so I am now running Windows Service Pack 3. Does anyone have any suggestions on what might be the problem? Any help would be greatly appreciated, I tell you that.
NOTE: And the following might not have anything to do with my problem but I noticed on MSI's web site, located at this URL: http://global.msi.com.tw/index.php?func=downloaddetail&type=utility&maincat_no=1&prod_no=260
they say give a warning about MSI Live Update when installing it to my PC/Board. Look under the MSI Live Update Utility at the "Notes." It says:
"For K9VGM-V (MS-7253) mainboard, please do not select the DMI optopn.
Now I don't know what DMI means except maybe "Definition Multimedia Interface." And I don't get the chance to select any option during the process. If I do, the process hasn't made it that far before my PC crashes, and re-boots. Please, anybody got anything on this? Thank you.

Thank you so much. I just want to say I really appreciate when people do take the time to post me in return. So I really mean it, Thank You.
A quick question. You see, I have been upgrading my computer. I installed a Belkin USB USB Card (high speed 2.0) cause I needed more USB ports. Then I checked for compatable RAM and upgraded my RAM from 512MB to 2Gigs. Everything alright.
Now, I have checked for processors that are compatable with my board K9VGM-V (MS-7253). And MSI's chart says mine is compatable with the AMD Athlon 2x 6000 (3.0Ghz) *IF* I use the 89 watt and not the 125 watt. Here is a good URL for the processor details I found:
http://www.cpu-world.com/CPUs/K8/AMD-Athlon%2064%20X2%206000+%20-%20ADA6000IAA6CZ%20(ADA6000CZBOX).html
Now do you have any tips and I will probably have to flash to BIOS for sure after this upgrade won't I?

MOVED: MSI Live Update not working Windows XP Professional 64bit Edition!!!

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MSI Live Update not working Windows XP Professional 64bit Edition!!!

Thank you so much. I just want to say I really appreciate when people do take the time to post me in return. So I really mean it, Thank You.
A quick question. You see, I have been upgrading my computer. I installed a Belkin USB USB Card (high speed 2.0) cause I needed more USB ports. Then I checked for compatable RAM and upgraded my RAM from 512MB to 2Gigs. Everything alright.
Now, I have checked for processors that are compatable with my board K9VGM-V (MS-7253). And MSI's chart says mine is compatable with the AMD Athlon 2x 6000 (3.0Ghz) *IF* I use the 89 watt and not the 125 watt. Here is a good URL for the processor details I found:
http://www.cpu-world.com/CPUs/K8/AMD-Athlon%2064%20X2%206000+%20-%20ADA6000IAA6CZ%20(ADA6000CZBOX).html
Now do you have any tips and I will probably have to flash to BIOS for sure after this upgrade won't I?

Msi Fx5900 Sp-vtd128(ms-8929-060) Appearing As (ms-8937) At Msi Live Update 3.

Hi everyone!
I have recently purchased the Msi FX5900 SP-VTD 128 card."Model number MS-8929-060.
When I used the Live Update 3 program to check for updates for my videocard and motherboard,the programm identified my card as "MS-8937" and not "MS-8929"
After a quick and easy search I found out that the "MS-8937" model number is used to describe the MSI FX5900XT 128 and not the FX5900 SP-VTD 128 which is the card that I use.
Can anyone help me out here??!!Does anyone else have the same problem??

Bill K.,
Forget Live Update and download the latest nVidia ForWare Drivers. Then go to your Windows Directory and delete the file msicpl.dll and see what those drivers say your card is.
Take Care,
Richard

MSI K9VGM-V (MS-7253)

Hello all and i`m glad to be here :D.If you can see the topics name that is my mother board.these are my specs:
CPU AMD Sempron 3400+ 1.98Ghz (oc from 1.8Ghz)
Mobo MSI K9VGM-V (MS-7253)
Memory 2x1 Gb Corsair Corsair Value Select 667 mhz
GPU EVGA nVIDIA 8600GT Superclocked
The thing is that i want to overclock more my CPU at least to pass over 2Ghz barrier.In the bios if i set the FSB at 223 my computer wont start now i have it at 220 and it works fine.I think there are some settings that i have to change that will allow me to pass the 2Ghz barrier
Thank you all that will answer

Quote from: al3x3y on 03-April-08, 05:02:09
sorry for my late reply.so i change the memory index to 400mhz and the with memtest i changed the timing to 4-5-5-15 i dont know why i can`t change it to 5-5-5-15.
now what should i do?i hope it wont crash my os again.
thank you
"so i change the memory index to 400mhz "
and..? does that helps?
"and the with memtest i changed the timing to 4-5-5-15 i dont know why i can`t change it to 5-5-5-15."
Memset, not memtest This one: http://www.tweakers.fr/download/MemSet.exe

MSI KT8 Neo2 F board, upgraded cpu and used MSIs Live Update, now unstable BSODs

I've had this mobo for almost 2 yrs now with an AMD 3500+ cpu and recently upgraded that to the FX-55. To do that, it required using MSIs Live Update and needed newer chipset drivers. It has the latest bios according to Live Update.
It took a few attempts but finally booted w/o BSODs and has been running for over 1 week BUT is still not right. It's sometimes unstable and will crash (BSOD) just by starting up a browser. I had the bios settings at "optimized" and have tryed a few other changes but so far, I'm not gaining. Last night I couldn't keep it running more than a few minutes w/o it crashing.
I have the MSI manual for my board and plan to spend some more time playing with it tonight but might anyone here have any ideas? It's not running hot (reads 50C) and was stable before with the 3500+. I've tryed "Fail Safe" bios settings too but nothing's better that way either.
I'm hoping that someone here has a few ideas?
Perhaps related?
After initially running this with the new cpu, I'd see the "searching for MAC address" message and it'd hang there on boot. Someone told me that was because it was trying to do a network boot, selected in the boot sequence SO I've unselected that and that's when things got worse (oddly as it shouldn't IMO). One can select the 3+ boot devices (floppy, USB, CD-DVD rom, HDD) and it use to see the HDDs (2) before but now I'm not (only floppy and CD-DVD rom) and if I unselect the ethernet option (boot other devices), it fails to boot at all and says "insert floppy" as if I was installing Win98 way back when (running XP Pro btw). Something's definately not right with my bios selections.

Let's go back to basics here for a bit. Start by posting your complete specs in your signature like we do. Make sure that your PSU values are also in there.
Let's also look at some tests to help determine where the issue is. I would recommend Memtest86+, OCCT, Prime95, and 3DMarks as a great first series. Also get CPUz and lets see what it shows for CPU and Memory.
If we can get an idea where things begin to fall apart then maybe we can determine if this is driver, hardware or some other issue without having to make the flash happen first. The reason why I am avoiding the flash at this point is that if things are mostly working maybe there is some other cause than Bios. We know that some FX's work with 3.x and some that don't. So I would like to try a bit of checking before we dive into a flash that could cause more issues than it solves if we get this wrong. As things are mostly working now we can assume at least for the moment that maybe the flash is not needed. If we don't see anything during testing that sheds some light then maybe we go ahead with the flash.
That is if your willing to take some time to try and sort this out and maybe learn some stuff in the process. It is of course your call and we will respect whichever decission you make here.

New Build using MSI 6600GT 256 PCI-E no Display

Hi all,
Please offer some advice and help me out please.
Just finished a new build.
Intel l775 p4 3.4 ghz on an Asus P5AD2- E Premium board, using MSI 6600gt 256mb PCI-E video card. 2gig Ram
Done plenty of AMD builds using AGP cards so this is a little different for me!
Have finished putting it all together.
Upon power up for the first time im getting no output to monitor?
card has Svideo out and two DVI conectors, im using an anoloug monitor using the DVI to anoulge converter thingy that is supplied.
Monitor just displays no input detected, monitor is fine as works on old system..
Many thanks
Andy

davidfrisby,
This thread is two years old, and no one replied.
Open up your own topic and we can go from there.

Where are the USB drivers for my MSI board??

Got a new MSI board- VIA KM266 Pro + 8237 Chipset Based. I installed my new AMD 2300+, WIN XP, etc. I have a USB printer. Got everything installed, printed a test page, and then a document. Everything fine. THEN, I go to use my printer a few days later and it says "Printer not responding". So I troubleshoot, and then go into Device Manager and notice there are no USB devices installed. The new MSI board has 4 USB ports on it. The CD that came with the board has no USB drivers on it (I checked). WIN XP has no USB drivers. What is going on? How do I get the USB ports to work? Am I looking at it all wrong? Appreciate any help out there!

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Stu: He started his thread saying "Got a new MSI board- VIA KM266 Pro + 8237 Chipset Based."
osnavi, that is true. after searching through MSI website, i think this is the board he is referring to, KM3M:
http://www.msi.com.tw/program/products/mainboard/mbd/pro_mbd_detail.php?UID=611
sonic, what is your USB printer?

Should I use MSI's or Intel's chipset driver with a G31M3-L V2 motherboard?

I just purchased an MSI G31M3-L V2 motherboard, bundled with an Intel E5200 CPU from Fry’s Electronics, and I plan to build a computer with the other parts (listed below in the signature) that I already have.
This will be only my second build so I was doing some research to see that I do it right. One thing I wanted to make sure about was the proper order for installing drivers since that appears to be important.
All seem to agree that the first driver to be installed after the basic Windows installation is the chipset driver. Some even say that the chipset driver should be installed before even installing Windows patches, updates and service packs. Others say to complete the Windows installation first, but all agree that the chipset driver should be the first driver. Ok, so far so good.
There is a driver on the MSI web site labeled “Intel INF Drivers for 945/955/965/975/Q3x/P3x/G3x/X3x Chipsets.” It has a version number of 8.3.0.1013 and an update date of 2008-01-16.
Well that’s great, but in my internet travels today I also came across a chipset driver on the Intel web site which also seems to be for the G31 chipset. It is labeled “INF Update Utility – Primarily for Intel 4, 3, 900 Series Chipsets.” It has a version number of 9.0.0.1008 and a date of 8/2/2008. A look into the release notes for this item indicates that it is for Windows XP and the G31 Express chip set, among others.
Well, of course, my first impulse is to use the Intel supplied driver since it has a higher version number and a later release date, so it must be the better driver, right?
Then I got to thinking: why wouldn’t MSI have this, apparently, newer chipset driver on its web site? Is it possible that I would be better off with the, apparently, older driver on the MSI site? Is it possible, perhaps, that MSI may have made changes to the driver they offer that makes it better for an MSI board than the, apparently, newer Intel driver? Now I don’t know what to think!
So which should I use, the version 8 driver from MSI or the version 9 driver from Intel?

I am building a computer with the parts listed below, but I thought that since the MSI G31M3-L V2 motherboard has on board video, and sound, it might be simpler to start out with that and add my video, and sound, cards later. Of course this means I will have to install the Intel VGA driver and the Realtek audio driver and then add the nVIDIA and Creative drivers when I add those parts.
On the one hand it seems like to get the computer up and stable first and then add in other parts later would be a good idea but on the other hand everyone seems to suggest that the graphics driver should pretty much be the next one installed after the chipset driver, so If I wait to add the nVIDIA card later I’m not really following this guideline.
What do you experienced system builders do in a similar situation, put everything in all at once or start out with the on board stuff first and add the cards in later?

CAn I use MSI Tv-Out card with my ASUS

Asus has no optional Tv-out card or sth like that.(I'm using the ob GF2MX)
Can I use the MSI tv-out card with my Asus a7n266-vm or it is just for MSI nforces.
Here in Turkey it is 17US$+VAT.Is is high or normal?

Hi...I did a little price search on internet before, for msi`s tv-out card...Its even selling with a price of 22$ in usa...So Turkey`s price is good....But I dont have any idea about it works in asus boards or not....But My friend bought the addon card for his msi board and It doesnt have any markings like it only works in msi boards n its manual....I think ıt should be work on other nforce boards....Just a reminder...He is unhappy with the tv-out adon card...because somehow detonators detect it but doesnt lets you play with tv-out settings in advance display settings section....You got tv-out screen , nothing more....No output on start-up the computer(Post section)....Only with windows....You need programs like tv tool for tweak its settings...

Cant see or control case fans on MSI board

I just upgraded my PC to Devils Canyon and h87-g41 pc mate. Everything is working fine... except i cant see my installed case fans and they are running on max (i assume) and making a lot of noise.
The very old board i upgraded from had option in bios for automatic fan control under overclocking (if i remember correctly). I set it to automatic and case fans were controled based on temperatures.
But the new msi board cant detect them correctly. SPeedfan and cpuid hwmonitor does not show them, and they are not show in bios. And i cant seem to find any settings for case fans.
Only fan it detects is the aux fan at the back of the fan and controls it automatically.
I used Live Updater and did total install, so i should have all the drivers.
I plugged them in right, used the pins and not the molex.

Quote from: valgusepoiss on 20-July-14, 13:15:48
I just upgraded my PC to Devils Canyon and h87-g41 pc mate. Everything is working fine... except i cant see my installed case fans and they are running on max (i assume) and making a lot of noise.
The very old board i upgraded from had option in bios for automatic fan control under overclocking (if i remember correctly). I set it to automatic and case fans were controled based on temperatures.
But the new msi board cant detect them correctly. SPeedfan and cpuid hwmonitor does not show them, and they are not show in bios. And i cant seem to find any settings for case fans.
Only fan it detects is the aux fan at the back of the fan and controls it automatically.
I used Live Updater and did total install, so i should have all the drivers.
I plugged them in right, used the pins and not the molex.
On your board, CPUfan1, CPUfan2, and Sysfan1, are the only fan headers that are setup for sensing, the other two are 3 pin headers and very likely have no sensor on them.... as far as BIOS or any software are concerned, they simply are not there, if you need them controlled, you might have to buy a fan controller.
You could plug one of your case fans into CPUfan2, if that header is not being used, and then you would have full sensing and control of it.

RoHS (lead free) in MSI boards

Does anybody know for sure, if new MSI boards are being manufactured using standard SnPb solder, or only with the lead free one?
Since MSI claims that their motherboards use Military Grade III components (i.e. highly reliable), they should use the SnPb solder as the most reliable solution too.
(Military devices have an exception from the RoHS directive)
I just bought the ZH77A-G43 board, so I wonder if it lasts at least for 5-10 years.

Quote from: redfox on 18-March-13, 23:11:58
Does anybody know for sure, if new MSI boards are being manufactured using standard SnPb solder, or only with the lead free one?
Since MSI claims that their motherboards use Military Grade III components (i.e. highly reliable), they should use the SnPb solder as the most reliable solution too.
(Military devices have an exception from the RoHS directive)
I just bought the ZH77A-G43 board, so I wonder if it lasts at least for 5-10 years.
The conventional Sn60/Pb40 and Sn63/Pb37 solders are not used by any hardware manufacturer for a long time ago.
It's not only about the WEEE/RoHS directives.
It's more about melting points and oxidation.
But don't waste your time with all of these.
In our local "museum" we have this mainboard: http://www.msi.com/product/mb/815-Pro.html
It's 12 years old, it doesn't understand the "Military Class" concept, but it's still working just fine !!!

Mentioning non MSI boards

I saw that a recent post mentioning DFI boards was frozen. I came to MSI after a failed upgrade using an Abit motherboard. I ended up using all the components which wouldn't work together on the abit board on the MSI board without any problems. I felt that other Abit users having the same problem as me, and being told on the Abit forum to try swapping every component they had fitted, should be aware of my experience with swapping to the MSI.
Equally if MSI should ever produce a lemon of a product which is easily fixed by swapping the board for a DFI or Abit, then those poor suffering MSI users should be aware of it.
After all shouldn't potential Neo4 SLI users be made aware that MSI have cocked up the power requirements WRT -5v, and that other makes of boards with on board sound may well work without having to hunt down a hybrid 20/24 PSU?
Of course any such post should avoid making deflammatory comments about MSI.
And what MSI may lose due to truthfully negative posts here will be made up for posts on other companies sites recommeding MSI boards.

Point taken, however it was the context that helped me make the decision to lock it. I know enough, having been a member of this forum for at least three years, that threads posted in that context can, and do, become inflammatory, either towards MSI or other users.
As for your second and third sentence, I agree that documentation of issues with said product should be available, however, I, and my fellow mods may agree that the way the information is expressed can be a sensitive issue.
As far as the power issue with the Diamond board, I agree that was likely a poor decision on MSI's part, but it is a different approach to sound compared to other boards available of that caliber and genre, you could even go as far as saying that the board itself is a hybrid. And yes, user should be made aware of the requirements, but I do not condone telling someone to buy a competitors product in this forum. If you have the burning desire to do so, out of respect, do so indirectly. We have PM's, and e-mail options here.
As for the last sentence, I agree, however, it does not change the process or standards I follow, in making my decision to lock the thread.

Which MSI boards support Speedfan?

I got a Delta LSR last week and it doesn't support Speedfan - so I'm going to change it for one that does. I'd prefer to stick with MSI. Please anyone who's using Speedfan, can you tell what board you're using?
Thanks.

That's incorrect. Most, if not all of AMD's desktop CPU's support ECC memory in the memory controller. This is precisely what makes them appealing to use in a unprofessional server -- they're cheap, fast, and offer server-level features. In order to make use of that ECC memory support, however, the board maker has to wire a few extra paths to the DIMM slots for control/parity bits related to the ECC signaling. I'm asking if MSI does it. If not, that's unfortunate, because ASUS does.

Resurecting a MSI Board

This is awesome for MSI, although I did something totally stupid
I was very upset and arguing with my wife one day. I got so mad, that I grabbed a glass of Coca-Cola and poured it all over my motherboard. (Luckily the computer was not plugged in at the time)
I had drenched the board so bad that Coke was dripping from it.
After I calmed down, I then worked on salvaging my computer. I used Isopropyl Alcohol to clean every inch of my MoBo. I even poured a bunch of Alcohol through the MoBo, so that alcohol was dripping from the board.
I admit it wasn't the smartest thing to do, overall. But my computer is working again, and better than ever.
MSI Boards are great. I admit, I am very smart but sometimes do some really stupid things.
I feel that it was only because MSI is great, and shear luck, that my computer works again.

So, you don't advise using any thing but Coke and Alcohol for doing it ? Anyway, I would prefer not to be near you when you're angry.
A bit off: Do you like this Forum ? If your answer is yes, read the post on first page in this Forum " Forum Team on Strike...". If you want this Forum to stay as it is now, please send a mail to MSI. Adress is mentioned in first post.

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