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Hi
First of all, I'm not starting any flame here. I'm just not satisfied with everything.
In august I wanted to get a GeForce 6800 Ultra, and at last! I found one MSI NX6800 Ultra T2D256 at a retailer.. btw it was very expensive, and there was only 1 piece of it. Nevermind, i purchased it, finally I have the dream-card.  
Ok, I got home, installed the fresh card, with the newest drivers. Running 3Dmark03... Freezing screen for 5 sec, then it continues!.. ROTFL...  
What's wrong? My new memory modules? ? Nooo.. Those can't be.. It was clear that it is the GeForce.  
So what? I downloaded the MSI 61.21 (cause there was no higher version in august), uninstalled the nVidia 61.77, and installed the MSI driver. No Shader Model 3.0 with the driver.. crap.  
Running 3Dmark03 again.. hmm freezing screen is gone.. but there is a crack in the sound all the time. I hate it! What now?  
I came to this forum, and checked other guys problems. I found out, that the original bios is CRAP, and it causes every problem which I was experiencing.
I saved my original bios, and flashed the card with nVidia's reference bios, and put back nvidia 61.77. Every single problem was gone, BUT the card did get a lower gpu speed. 400 mhz instead of msi factory standard 425. I thought "nevermind".  
But! A new driver came from MSI, I installed it as fast as I found it on the web.
There were no problems. But there is a D.O.T. tab.. hmm. Let's try it!  
Overclocking: Well, it's a GeForce 6800 Ultra, let's go to 10%, why not?
It's ok for the memories, but not for the GPU! It generates little artifacts on the screen! Put back to 8%... hmm, ok, but I don't get what I can with the driver, and I don't even get what I want!  
And remember, the default GPU speed with this bios is 400 mhz!
What would overclocking do with the default BIOS at 425 mhz? 4% D.O.T. and the card crashes? Or what? This is lame man.  
Why do you integrate this into the driver, if the 6800 ultra users can't even use it correctly?  
Why don't you develop an updated bios for the card? It's about time man, and about time for a new liveupdate version too! The 3.6x doesn't work with it!  
Why don't you reply for the users answers at support? They payed money for your company where you work!  
Did you even read this post, or just scrolled down and running through it?  
All I want to say with all these, that:
1. The card out of the box doesn't work properly. The original bios is a bug.
2. You have to search for others bioses and drivers, make a bootdisk and spend your expensive time with such lame things to replace the bios, and restart windows all the time.
3. You can't use the D.O.T. overclocking at max, because it is too much for the card, although there is a nice D.O.T. sticker on the box.. pathetic.
4. You get no support for your money... Just an updatet driver, which came a little late... Like a little piece of meat for the hungry animals in the zoo.. lol.
Besides these things, I really like this card. Not because it is MSI... because it is an nVidia GeForce 6800 Ultra!  
With the original cooler I get 435/1200 stable. Nice, the memory speed is impressive, i think the card has good rams, i dunno which factory, Samsung or Hynix, but thanks to them! But, considering that the factory default is 425 for the GPU, the 435 is crap...  
I hope I'll get better clock speeds after I installed some better cooler... Like Arctic Cooling NV Silencer 5.  
So: Thanks to nVidia  , and none to MSI!  

Answer 1

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Originally posted by Xeon
Hi
First of all, I'm not starting any flame here. I'm just not satisfied with everything.
In august I wanted to get a GeForce 6800 Ultra, and at last! I found one MSI NX6800 Ultra T2D256 at a retailer.. btw it was very expensive, and there was only 1 piece of it. Nevermind, i purchased it, finally I have the dream-card.  
Ok, I got home, installed the fresh card, with the newest drivers. Running 3Dmark03... Freezing screen for 5 sec, then it continues!.. ROTFL...  
What's wrong? My new memory modules? ? Nooo.. Those can't be.. It was clear that it is the GeForce.  
So what? I downloaded the MSI 61.21 (cause there was no higher version in august), uninstalled the nVidia 61.77, and installed the MSI driver. No Shader Model 3.0 with the driver.. crap.  
Running 3Dmark03 again.. hmm freezing screen is gone.. but there is a crack in the sound all the time. I hate it! What now?  
I came to this forum, and checked other guys problems. I found out, that the original bios is CRAP, and it causes every problem which I was experiencing.
I saved my original bios, and flashed the card with nVidia's reference bios, and put back nvidia 61.77. Every single problem was gone, BUT the card did get a lower gpu speed. 400 mhz instead of msi factory standard 425. I thought "nevermind".  
But! A new driver came from MSI, I installed it as fast as I found it on the web.
There were no problems. But there is a D.O.T. tab.. hmm. Let's try it!  
Overclocking: Well, it's a GeForce 6800 Ultra, let's go to 10%, why not?
It's ok for the memories, but not for the GPU! It generates little artifacts on the screen! Put back to 8%... hmm, ok, but I don't get what I can with the driver, and I don't even get what I want!  
And remember, the default GPU speed with this bios is 400 mhz!
What would overclocking do with the default BIOS at 425 mhz? 4% D.O.T. and the card crashes? Or what? This is lame man.  
Why do you integrate this into the driver, if the 6800 ultra users can't even use it correctly?  
Why don't you develop an updated bios for the card? It's about time man, and about time for a new liveupdate version too! The 3.6x doesn't work with it!  
Why don't you reply for the users answers at support? They payed money for your company where you work!  
Did you even read this post, or just scrolled down and running through it?  
All I want to say with all these, that:
1. The card out of the box doesn't work properly. The original bios is a bug.
2. You have to search for others bioses and drivers, make a bootdisk and spend your expensive time with such lame things to replace the bios, and restart windows all the time.
3. You can't use the D.O.T. overclocking at max, because it is too much for the card, although there is a nice D.O.T. sticker on the box.. pathetic.
4. You get no support for your money... Just an updatet driver, which came a little late... Like a little piece of meat for the hungry animals in the zoo.. lol.
Besides these things, I really like this card. Not because it is MSI... because it is an nVidia GeForce 6800 Ultra!  
With the original cooler I get 435/1200 stable. Nice, the memory speed is impressive, i think the card has good rams, i dunno which factory, Samsung or Hynix, but thanks to them! But, considering that the factory default is 425 for the GPU, the 435 is crap...  
I hope I'll get better clock speeds after I installed some better cooler... Like Arctic Cooling NV Silencer 5.  
So: Thanks to nVidia  , and none to MSI!  
Well, I can tell you, that I don´t like to overclock the hardware (because my MSI GeForce 6800 Ultra is very fast at stock  ). Yes, I flashed the BIOS with Nvidia BIOS revision 2 too, and the default clock is 400, I wanted to go to MSI stock clocks, so, the 2D core clock was the same (400) and I changed the 3D clock to 425, the mem clock is OK (1.1). I tried overclocking the card just to see how far It can go, and the max was for the core 445 (2D and 3D), and for mem 1.20. Runs stable and without artifacts, but anyway, then I changed again to MSI defaults Core (2D 400, 3D 425), Mem (1.10), that´s really enough for me, this monster runs like hell, excellent!!!