MSI G33M MS-7357 VER 1.0 Motherboard poblem

My Philips Freevents HEPC-7501/05 PC is fitted with a MSI G33M motherboard. It has been used for two years now and yesterday it wouldn't start up. Opening the case I observed that when the front panel push-button is depressed, the Fans on the CPU and backplate twitch slightly and then stop. Looking at the ATX power-on signal, it is at 5V, so the main ATX power isn't being enabled.
I took the whole system apart and re-assembled, re-seating the Core 2 Duo E6750 CPU and tried again. Still the same problem. I then disconnected the 4 way CPU power connector and retried. This time the fans spin up for about 5 seconds and then stop. If the front panel button is held in, this spin-up of the fans repeats over and over.
I have checked the ATX PSU and that is fine.
Could this fault be a Motherboard CPU PSU problem, CPU or general motherboard failure?
As I said, I've only had it for two years from new and would have thought that it would last longer than that!
I have tried to get a replacement G33M motherboard on the web, but no-one sells them anymore.
Is it time for a new PC?

 Sorry, we only offer support for MSI retail products, not something like that with MSI supplied OEM MB.
https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=110544.msg822218#msg822218

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    In the reviews I read a lot of interesting including OC to 475 FSB....
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    You have strange criteria for calling a mainboard good or bad.  Considering the fact that overclocking means operating a component beyond its native specifications, overclocking results are not really a valid starting point for calling a mainboard good or bad.  I would understand your opinion, if this was a high end mainboard, but the G33M-FI does most certainly not belong into that class. 
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  • MOVED: MSI G33M-FI 7357 Problems...

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    https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=130434.0

    This topic has been moved to Overclockers & Modding Corner.
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    Quote
    but this psu worked fine for me for about 4 years...
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