MSI G3Ti200 Pro-TD128

I have just recently purchased an MSI G3Ti200 Pro-TD128 Video card and am having trouble installing the driver for it. Let me give a bit of back ground of my system and what I have tried so far. I have a MSI KT3 Ultra (MS-6380E) mainboard with 1gb 2100 DDR ram, an AMD 2000+ XP processor and I am running Windows 98 SE. I have just recently updated my Bios to the latest version (5.6) as well as downloaded and installed the latest chipset drivers for my motherboard. I have also made sure my bios AGP setting was at 4x. My problem is that when I put in the installation disk and click on the install VGA driver link it tells me that it can't find the device. I then tried to install the driver manually through the add hardware feature. It says it installed correctly but when I reboot the monitor stays black after the initial Windows screen and then it reboots itself and goes to the safe mode menu. Once I did get the driver installed and back into Windows but it was still in 16 color mode and when I attempted to set it to high color and rebooted I got a message that the display properties were incorrect for the hardware that I had. I know my AGP slot works because I put my Riva TNT 2 32mb card back in and have no problems with it.
Please help I have tried everything I know (which isn't much ) )

Good point, I missed that critical point in my first read.
There are fixes or workarounds for that.
Win98/98SE/ME can't handle more than 512 megs of memory
It's a known issue that Win ME, Win98 and Win95 cannot deal with main memory sizes in excess of 512MB.
This problem may occur more readily with AGP video adapters because the AGP aperture is also mapped to addresses in the system area
For example, if Vcache is using a maximum cache size of 800MB and an AGP video adapter has a 128MB aperture mapped, there is very little address space remaining for the other system code and data that must occupy this range of virtual addresses."
And here are the three suggested workarounds:
1. Physically remove any memory in excess of 512MB
2. Use the System Configuration utility to limit the amount of memory that Windows uses to 512MB or less.
3. Use the MaxFileCache setting in the System.ini file to reduce the maximum amount of memory that Vcache uses to 512MB (524,288 KB) or less."
And the unspoken fourth solution: upgrade to Windows 2000.
MS knowledgebase also admits that the addressing restriction has been identified as a failing in Windows. Installing Win2K obviated the problem. All 768MB ran faultlessly.

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G3Ti200 Pro-TD128 Crashes System

I have been trying to get my MSI G3Ti200 Pro-TD128 to display correctly. Upon boot up, the system crashes (from time to time). When I press the reset button for a warm boot-up, WindowsME loads fine. Once the desktop appears, Windows is stuck in the basic 16-color old VGA mode. At first I thought it was a hardware conflick, so I removed all devices and cards. I even tried swapping the DIMMs with known good DIMMs (in case of bad memory). Nothing worked. I thought maybe there's a conflick between CMOS resources and WindowsME resoures, so I tried to force Windows to use the CMOS settings. That did not work either. Then I tried to force CMOS to change resourse settings to allow Windows to use the resoureces available. That did'nt work. I flashed the motherboards bios to the lasest revision and tried everthing again, that did'nt work. Then I tried using different drivers and proformed the same porcedure again.
This has lead me to believe that my old Motheboard/CPU cannot handle this display card.
Any suggestions would be very helpful.
My motherboard is a Tyan K7 (S2380) "early" AMD socket-A board. Memory is at about 640Mb, one HDD ATT66 30Gb. Chipset is a VIA Apollo KX-133 (I tried using the lasest drivers for that too). This motherboard uses a Award BIOS 2Mbit Flash RAm that supports APM & ACPI (which I also tried enabled and disabled modes). This board does not have it's own audio ports. It runs on a 200Mhz Front side bus and is using an eary 1Ghz AMD CPU (Socket-A). The DIMMs are a PNY 256Mb PC-133, there are three installed.
Other PCI cards used include a Soundblaster 5.1 Platium sound card, Soundblaster DXR3 5.1 Dolby Digital encoder (for use with a 5x DVD IDE drive), a PCI 100/baseTX network card, a Firewire adapter card, a PCI WINTV-HDD card (for displaying HD-TV on computer).
There has to be a way that I can get this display card to work. I tried a "fresh" reinstalation of WindowsME. In WindowsMe, it did not show any conflicks at all.
Could my suspicion about the motherboard be correct? Or is there something else that I could try?
When Windows asks me to adjust the display settings, I try to change it to at least 256-colors and reboot. The display goes back to 64-colors. It's almost as if the display drivers are loaded, but don't function. I am going to try older drivers for this display card to see if any of them work. So, far I have spent 3 full days trying to get this thing to work.
Please Help...
Thank you.

Thanks for the help.
I already tried everthing possible, to get the display card to work. I know the card works fine in my other computer. The via chipset in this motherboard is not compatible with the display card. My older display card (3DFX 5500) works fine. I have been thinking for some time before about updating the computer for Pentium 4. This problem that I had, has made me deside to upgrade now.
I ran into this type of problem before. The only way to fix it, was to upgrade Windows or replace the motherboard. I was hoping to find an alternative. After serveral attempts and various methods, my only option left is to replace the motherboard.
There are two "hidden" system drivers installed within WindowsMe. I believe for each PCI card installed. One is called, "ACPI IRQ Holder For PCI IRQ". The other is called, "PCI IRQ Holder". Something like those anyway, I'm not sure the exact wording. ACPI helps the bios to control standby opperations within the bios. I went through both drivers, they had somthing to do with the problem. Disableing these drivers prevent the cards form working at all.
Some chipset versions work better than others. Intel and Via have several different chipsets used in the Pentium 4 class motherboards. The problem now is to deside which one to pick.
I have to research the matter.
Thanks again for the help.
Now that the prices finally went down on computer products, upgrading cost is almost nothing. Not like twenty years ago, it would cost a fortune just to install a set of DRAMs.
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Originally posted by Deathstalker
johnk425,
Well there are a few things I am thinking:
1) There is a lot of hardware in your system, can the Power Supply Handle it all?
2) You are running SB Live!, is it on IRQ 5 and is that PCI Slot not being shared?
3) Did you update to the Latest 4in1 Via Drivers?
4) I would try pulling all the PCI cards out of the computer and just try running with HD, Optical Drive, Vid Card and see if you get problems then.
Good Luck,
Richard

Problems with G3Ti200 pro-td128 (MS-8851)

Ok first problem actually seems to be with overclocking software that came with the card. I run WinXP pro, and every time i try to click on the MSI tabs i get a rundll error. When i was running Win ME, and 98se it worked fine. Next i am experience frame rate slow downs when playing games like Ghost Recon. I use to have an P3 700 256 ram, and tnt2 and it ran faster then. I am running the new 40.x det drivers from nvidia. My relivent specs are as follows. Sorry for any spelling/grammer errors.
AMD XP 1700+ 1.47 gig
Asus A7S333 mobo
512 DDR Ram
G3ti200 Pro-TD128

uninstall the drivers then re-install them again, there was a bug with 40.41 drivers, u had to uninstall the previous ones prior to installing 40.41's. (this will fix the dll bug)
jerky gameplay can sometimes be related to hard disk, make your you close down anything running int he background, defragging your hdd would also be a good idea.

Msi Rx9800 Pro Td128

I,want to THANKS to MSI ,because BUILD this MSI RX9800 PRO TD 128,it is absolute:AMAIZING!!!
The GOD BLESS ALL MSI TEAM!
It is the best VGA card I ever seen in my life!
Thanks,thanks,thanks,etc.
Tony,from ROMANIA.

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G3Ti200 Pro-TD128

I have had my system for a few months now and have been very happy with one exception. Trying to install the driver for my graphics card has not been a pleasant one. To begin with I could install from the CD that came with the system. When I inserted it the display that came up did not have options for install. I tried to install from windows and when it search the disk it told me that the drivers there were not compatible with windows and it did not recommend I install them. I went into both NVIDA and MSI to load drivers from these sites and still get the same warning. My last effort was a Microsoft site. This appeared to load the drivers, but not without problems. Under my display properties screen I do not have the option to “extend my windows desktop onto this monitor”, which should show up in the bottom left corner. Also when I click on the tabs “MSI information” and “MSI clock” I get a problem message and the window closes itself. The biggest problem is under the advanced window. The twin view tab is missing. Also when I go to the panel to select my output device I cannot select the option TV. Can you please help on fixing my driver problems?

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Originally posted by Deathstalker
rw,
To start with, tell us the specs on your system hardware and OS. You could try to get the Reference Drivers from nVidia. This will give a good start to get the Card operating in a 3D Environment.
Windows® XP/2000 Driver Downloads
Windows® 95/98/Me Driver Downloads
Then we can work on the rest once you give us your specs.
Good Luck,
Richard

G3Ti200 Pro-TD compatibility with 845PE Max 2

I have a MSI G3Ti200 Pro-TD MS-8851 geforce 3 graphics card and a MSI 845PE Max 2 MS 6704 Mainboard. There is a sticker over the AGP port on the board which says I can only use AGP 1.5v 4x cards in the slot and If I dont I can seriously damage the mainboard. Will my card be compatible with the board?. Thanks

it will be fine
any modern gf cards fine,older tnt2 can be gpx4 but not all are

UXGA via DVI on G3ti200-Pro TD?

Hi,
I'm the proud owner of an MSI G3Ti200 proTD vga card,
I bought it almost 1 year ago, and never a glitch, never a fault. This card works flawlessly.
but I have a question to you guys (especially technically skilled onez)
QUESTION 1)
I'd like to buy a new TFT monitor, but I don't know if my card will support it.
I see it does have a DVI-I connector, but there's not mention about the maximum resolution on the manual or on the msi website.
can I run it at 1600 x 1080 (UXGA) via DVI ?
QUESTION 2)
I see that my card is Apple compatible... (I'm reading from the supplied manual "Mac OS compatible")
and apple is making this astonishing 20" which runs at 1680 x 1024 and its price is very good for a 20" digital TFT display.
Can I use it with the DVI-ator (ADC -> DVI+USB converter) on my G3ti200 Pro TD?
can I do that?
Please help me, because I wouldn't like to change my videocard since, it's very good and stable.
thank you for your answers!
ciao!

it will be fine
any modern gf cards fine,older tnt2 can be gpx4 but not all are

Unable to boot with MSI X58 PRO-E and OCZ3P1333LV6GK

Hi,
This is my first post in this forum.
I've had this system for about 6 months, and from time to time I kept having instant reboots and once the PC would never start, I think I've sorted that by first flashing an old MB BIOS and then the most recent.
Tree days ago I've had another instant reboot, but now the system stops/reboots when the coloured animation starts to appear above the "Loading windows" message. This happens with both Win7 32 & 64 bits and even with the windows 7 installation DVD !!!
I think I've tried all combinations of the other posts where the MB+memory was the same as mine.
Another strange issue is: the memory PN shown inside the BIOS (OCZ3G1333LV2G) is different from the label on the memory (OCZ3G1333LV6GK)!!
I've already tested with only one memory chip at a time, the result is still the same.
I've only got connected the following: Video board, 1 RAM chip, USB Keyboard & one SATA HD. No over clocking whatsoever !
What else do I need to do to finally boot to windows ?
Thanks in advance for any help.
Paulo
My System:
Mobo: MSI X58 Pro-E, model MS-7522, version 3.1
BIOS: 8.B
CPU: Intel i7 920
RAM: OCZ3G1333LV6GK (6GB)
Video: Sapphire Vapor-X ATI RAdeon HD 4870 2GB
PSU: Combat Power CP 750W
OS: Windows 7 32 & 64 bits

Hi Henry,
Thanks for the help.
"What are your RAM timings? Screenshot of CPU-Z Memory tab and SPD tab."
I've added a few screenshots of the memory, the SPD & CPU-Z tab, plus a MEM86 test with only on memory stick installed. It appears that the memory is OK... or not ?
"Do you have another video card you can try? Those Sapphire Vapor-X cards have been a problem for others in the past."
I wasn't aware of any problems with this video card, I use it mainly to send movies to my big LCD TV through the HDMI port. I don't have access to another video card, sorry...
I don't know what else to do, do you think it's the PSU ?
Regards,
Paulo
--I made it so your images show and are clickable
--Mike

Building new system, MSI X58 Pro-E, i7 920, GTX 295, 6gb, Thermalright e-120

Hello, I was hoping for some advice on this rig, to overclock or not, etc; Im a bug gamer, so its really about gaming to the max 1st,
Heres the brand new parts;
MSI X58 Pro-E (In the box, just arrived, do not know bios yet)
i7 920
Patriot Extreme Viper PVT36G1600ELK 6GB DDR3 9-9-9-24
eVGA GTX295 1792mb CO-OP edition
Thermalright extreme e-120 cpu cooler (Jesus that thing is huge)
Im going to re-use this stuff:
2x500gb seagate HDD sata raid 0 for performance
Antec 900 case Lots of fans...nice
DVD RW
Corsair TX750W Says 60A on a single +12v rail (I think its good, only @ a year or so old)
SB X-FI Fatality gamer sound card
So, basically should I look to OC this setup a bit? maybe to like 3 GHz or so? If so, whats the "safest" method to OC? I have an excellent cpu cooler and a case that has a ton of fans in it so hopefully I should be good for cooling.
Do I just OC the CPU? Will the memory run at its top speeds with this chip? or do I need to do something for the memory also, I recally for some reason on my current PC with a 780i SLI evga mobo I had to set the ram timins manually, they were never picked up properly on "auto", will I have that also on the MSI board?
I hope Ive provided enough information to get started.
Thank you for any help!
Oh, I plan to build this baby the following weekend as I am working the next 2 weeks straight...meh

Quote from: Rebel230 on 08-July-09, 08:29:48
So, basically should I look to OC this setup a bit? maybe to like 3 GHz or so?
Yes, why not?
Do not be aiming for 3 GHz, you can run that on stock voltage. 4 GHz is more within the grasp of the TRUE 120.
Quote from: Rebel230 on 08-July-09, 08:29:48
If so, whats the "safest" method to OC? I have an excellent cpu cooler and a case that has a ton of fans in it so hopefully I should be good for cooling.
There's only one way to overclock - overclock... There is no safe way of doing it...
Quote from: Rebel230 on 08-July-09, 08:29:48
Do I just OC the CPU? Will the memory run at its top speeds with this chip? or do I need to do something for the memory also,
The only way you can overclock a CPU without overclocking anything else is with an extreme edition CPU. (The i7 965, for example.) It's overclocked by raising the CPU multiplier, not the baseclock frequency.
With regular CPUs, you overclock the baseclock, which overclocks the CPU core, CPU uncore, memory, and QPI frequency.
Quote from: Rebel230 on 08-July-09, 08:29:48
I recally for some reason on my current PC with a 780i SLI evga mobo I had to set the ram timins manually, they were never picked up properly on "auto", will I have that also on the MSI board?
Extremely doubtful.
I hope I've answered your questions. I can be more thorough if you wish to know more. Of course, Google can tell you more than I ever could.

Problem with a MSI-6163 PRO

Anyone got an idea what kinda problem i have? I have an MSI 6163 PRO motherboard (with latest BIOS update 3.5), a PIII 700 Cuppermine, 3x256 SDRam, i run Win XP Pro, have a 40 gb harddrive and have been running like this for at least 9 months, without any problem. Suddenly it starts to reboot all the time and now i cant even start it not even in fail safe mode, it reboots before i get in.
Its not a Virus, i have virus checked the hardrive, i tryed with a smaller harddrive (6 gb and win 95) and that worked, i bought a new harddrivce (120 gb) Started to format and install Win XP pro and it starts to reboot again, i have tryed chagne memmorys, graphic adapter, net adapter, soundcard everything, i am going nuts! anyone had probs like this??
I would be more than greatfull if anyone has an answer to this.

Thanks a lot Wonkanoby for the help. It didnt help my error but it sure cleared it up. There were several capacitor that leaked, just as the pics on the site you sent http://www.overclockers.com/tips00140/, it shows clearly on thoose. Cant beleive how that problem can be so big and seems like they are doing nothing about it either.
Well thanks for a great Forum here, and thanks to you Wonkanoby.
The motherboard is dumped... thinking of going back to good old ASUS
Then its Rock´n Roll agian
Have a great day.

MSI K7N414D-PRO CPU support?

Does the MSI K7N415D-Pro support the new TBRED 2100+
If it does, then I'm in trouble...because I can't get it to boot....
I'm running bios 3.1 on it.
Why is there very little info on this mobo anyway??? ? ?(

http://www.msi.com.tw/program/support/cpu_support/cpu/spt_cpu_detail.php?UID=10%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20&NAME=MS-6373
is for the 420 last bios added xp 2600
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MSI X58 Pro - Latest Chipset Driver

Hi,
Off and on I get an ATAPI error on Windows 7 x64. I'm running a i7 920 on my MSI X58 Pro (NOT the Pro E version).
The symptoms are simple, booting into Windows load screen I get my hard drive light lit up non stop and nothing loads. I'm not sure if its trashing as I'm using an SSD. I've run HD Tune to test all my drives are they have reported them to be fine.
I'll like to update the chipset drivers as a step to solve my problem
The one on the official page shows:
Intel 3/4/5 Chipset Drivers Ver: 9.1.2.1008
Release Date: 2010-07-30
http://www.msi.com/product/mb/X58-Pro.html#/?div=Driver&os=All
This is the one I am using now.
I went to Intel's website and found an more updated one:
Intel® Chipset Device Software (INF Update Utility) Ver: 9.3.0.1019
Release Date: 2011-11-27
http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Detail_Desc.aspx?agr=Y&ProdId=3061&DwnldID=20775&ProductFamily=Chipsets&ProductLine=Desktop+Chipsets&ProductProduct=Intel%C2%AE+X58+Express+Chipset&lang=eng
My question is simple: Should I update my drivers to the one on the Intel site or stick with MSI's one?
Also note that the MSI Pro has been discontinued and I'm not sure if the Pro x58 product page is updated.

If the updates didn't help, to further assist with troubleshooting, a list of all your systems components will be needed. Don't forget to give details of the RAM & the PSU, especially the amps on the +12V rail(s).
https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=38822.0

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Really neeed alot of help here!!!
i got a mobo with memory and 2x 2ghz cpu sockel 603
the mobo is a Msi 860D PRO , also called 6508. the cpus are basic intel xeon sockel 603 2ghz and also i have 4 256 rdram and 4 dummys connected.
so im almost there.... the thing is right now i need the psu for this board and it seems like there is only one psu in the world i can use for this mobo (IT002A430WSW) and made by NMB , i found a guy with same problem as i but he ordered the psu online , they dont seem to have that in stock any longer , ive tried to email to them but no answer. :(
i live in sweden and now i dont know what to do... :( kinda stuck here atm. and my old proliant server is on its knees and almost going down the drain. so i really need the "new" server up n runnin asap.
Best regards /Dennis

sry mate but this is starting to feel like a bit "try this and try that"
Is there anyone that can say something for 100% sure ?
i found on www.wtx.org in the www.archive.org in waybackengine a pdf file that is nothin like what the pdf file for the msi860d pro look like so i can just forget about the WTX standard.
Any MSI working people here that can answer 100% for sure and exact? and no "well try this and that" answer.
/still just getting even more frustrated on this one tough :(

Safe O/C for MSI 9800 Pro

I would like to know with your experiencie with the msi 9800 pro, what is safe with the stock cooling to o/c this card?
Now I have it mine in 411.75/364.50 (XT speeds), no artifacts in 3dmarks 01 and 03.
I run the Atitool when I bought it, and gave me the range 453/369. But I don't dare to keep it o/ced at this speeds.
Regards

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Originally posted by [T-A]_Super_10
Be careful on your ram as the 9800Pros run hot, I added ram sinks and they get super hot to the touch, The card is fast enough stock unless your wanting some higher benchmarks its best to just leave at stock settings.
I DONT GIVE A but thanks for the warning.
if i break my card due to overclocking i go to the store and will probably have a new card on my way home.
i used my head when i bought it so i went to a store i know is good but they are a bit more expensive than others.
and putting heatsink on the memory chips will void warranty if the store decides so.
monoperez
why only 364.50 memory speed?
mine is 378 stock and can go up to 410 or something.

Will ECC memory install in MSI X58 Pro-E MS-7522

I've been given three memory modules that are ECC memory. Will my MB support them (MSI X58 Pro-E MS-7522)? Thx.

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