MSI G41M-P23 FSB/core clock issue (HELP!)

Alright, so a few days ago I bought an MSI G41M-P23 with 8 gb of DDR3 1066 (PC3 8500) RAM (the standard for this board). My CPU is an E8400 (3.0 ghz). At first I wanted to maybe fiddle with some overclocking, which is where I realized that this mobo fails at. Not a big deal...but every time I attempted to up the FSB above 336 or so (this CPU's default is 333... x 9 = 3000 mhz), the system would not POST, instead it simply would loop on/off until eventually going back to defaults.
That was fine with me -- I don't need to overclock, really. However, I noticed something odd in the BIOS. The CPU speed, which according to the fsb multiplier was the correct speed (2997 mhz), was very not correct in the CPU info section of the BIOS. There, it listed the speed at 1.8 ghz. Thus I decided, for the heck of it, to take at look at CPU-Z at this time.
This is what CPU-Z is currently telling me (I have a screenshot, but I can't seem to post it here):
In the "Clocks" section (bottom left of the main tab in CPU-Z)
Core speed: ~1894 mhz
Multiplier: x 9.0
Bus Speed: ~210 mhz
Rated FSB: ~842 mhz
The RAM speeds and ratios are correct, though, given the FSB:RAM ratio (it would seem). Ram clocks in at ~333 mhz, which with a 5:8 ratio should put it at 1066...I think.
So now CPU-Z and part(?) of the BIOS is showing me the wrong CPU speed (1800 mhz). It's also listing my FSB at 200 mhz despite the fact that my I set it in my BIOS at 333 mhz. The 200 Mhz adds up with the incorrect core speed, as 200 X 9 = 1800. If I go back to the BIOS, it lists the FSB correctly, and the POST screen displays the correct FSB and multiplier, but again, the CPU info screen of the bios is reading 1800 mhz, while listing the FSB as 333. I don't have any speedstep/CE1/other modifiers turned on, and this reading is currently under normal load (read: not idle). I'm at my wit's end here.
Is this board not saving my FSB speeds in the BIOS? Is there any way to fix this issue? I apparently have the most up-to-date BIOS according to CPU-Z and MSI's support website. I have not tried every setting of the OC switch yet, though I have tried a few (200 -> 333, for example) and all have resulted in a system that will not POST, and leaves me having to reset the CMOS jumper in order to get it to boot again (as opposed to the looping/defaulting cycle mentioned earlier).
Can someone PLEASE help me? I just reinstalled Windows 7 x64/all my programs because of this new board...and I really, really don't want to do that all again.

Well, I heard back from MSI. They are just as confused over the BIOS version as I am, apparently. V30.8 is not what is supposed to be on the board. So, rather than flash it and hope that it works, etc., I decided to simply return the board, as I've only had it for a few days, and bared used it. Something is clearly wrong with it to have an "unknown" BIOS installed.
I went ahead and ordered a new CPU and mobo entirely...Core i5, too. No MSI board this time...only because they didn't have a board in my price range. I wanted this upgrade to be something easy and simple so I wouldn't have to do that.. oh well.
I do find it very strange what's happened with this board, though....I've never before heard of ordering and receiving a board with an unknown BIOS on it...even according to the manufacturer. Maybe an out-of-date BIOS, but not something completely off the radar. Still, thank you again for your help.

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