MSI GE60 Apache Pro - GPU issues....

Hello All,
So, I just purchased a MSI GE60 Apache Pro and guess what, the GPU is faulty. I'm seeing artifacts (horizontal black lines) whenever I use the PC.
I've already done the usual stuff, updated the drivers and so on.. Already contacted the MSI for RMA however, the reply is awfuly slow and they told me that the process will take at least 3 weeks. Great....
Any useful tips that may help to solve this or should just wait for this slow RMA process? :(
Thanks.

Quote from: hch;110474
Can't see the black lines you talk about.
Maybe you can show a desktop picture and point in out?
This was the best way to show the problem. Please, check carefully at the following secs: 17s and 51s. There is a flickering following with the horizontal black lines. I just added some notes to the video to help.

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https://www.dropbox.com/s/d8koa8f8i1z9j3d/Photo%202014-09-30%2C%201%2040%2044%20AM.jpg?dl=0
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It was suggested to me by a family member that it may be a hardware issue, hence the consideration for sending it in.
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To me it sounds like a hardware issue (especially if you have rolled back to factory default and reinstalled from scratch)
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I'm sorry to say, but some of the picture I'm not really getting what the problem you're talking about.
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http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2282965
http://forum.bioware.com/topic/55984-shadows-way-too-darkblack-intendedscreenshot-solved/
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Re-installing DirectX and PhysX.
NVIDIA moderator says some of the games is required to play some older Physx games, but not sure if it works.
If you would like to have a try.
https://forums.geforce.com/default/topic/524066/geforce-drivers/official-nvidia-r310-61-beta-display-driver-feedback-thread-released-11-20-12-/post/3714758/#3714758
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usually when buying a laptop then if you didnt open box then you have 14 days rights to return it and have money back but if you broken the box and return it the store will mostlikely reject your return and say that you have opened the box so you will have to pay twice as much for both :/ so best bet is to send laptop to your store and they will send it off to MSI repair center or place that is certified by MSI to repair MSI laptops for them where they will then restore your drives back to factory layout so you can then run MSI BurnRecovery tool in windows to create own recovery USB or so
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Quote from: Elred on 06-October-14, 17:04:14
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Because from my personal experience it makes the same thing several times in the past
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from my experience its rare but can hapend sometimes
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Yes it happens with headphones too and I have the latest driver from Realtek. And yes I do have a Logitech wireless mouse dongle, But that makes no difference. I have also tried running it on the battery and that makes no difference either.
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http://download.msi.com/nb_drivers/ad/audio_realtek_6.0.1.7349_0xaa9a2725_81700.zip
Which movie player are you using? Change another one and see if the problem remians.
What kind of video/music files are you playing?

MSI GE70 Apache Pro death pixels!!!

Hi I found on my 6 months old laptop a death pixel plus 2 gray pixels.. I try some fix for that but nothing happened.. I read MSI policy about that but in this is only saying for TFT technology.. But GE70 have LED technology so I want to know how much death or any others pixel I need have for repair under the warranty.. Thanks for reply :-)

I think the rule is the same, but you can check with MSI.
LCD (Liquid Crystal Display) Screen Bad Pixel Policy:
All notebook displays use TFT* technology, manufactured according to high industry standards, to guarantee trouble-free personal computing. Nevertheless, your display may have cosmetic imperfection that appears as small bright or dark spots. This is common to all LCD displays and cannot be avoided by any of our models. These imperfections are caused by one or more defective pixels or sub-pixels. MSI follows the common bad pixel policy from the industry.
Following the industry standard, MSI warrants a defective LCD display as having 5 or more bad pixels*. It's required that users to contact the original , or MSI within 30 days from the invoice date for a replacement.
* 5 abnormal pixels for 14" or smaller LCD display and 7 abnormal pixels for 15" or larger LCD display.
* TFT LCD is a variant of LCD uses Thin Film Transistor Technology to improve image quality.
http://www.msimobile.com/warranty/2yr_notebooks.aspx

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