MSI GeForce 8800 Ultra OC Lock / Freeze ups

Hi, this seems to be a general problem not just with MSI, I'm reading exactly the same problems being experienced by other 'Ultra' users.
After 20 or so mins of play (mainly bf2 / COH / Far Cry for me) the card/display driver crashes, the screen flickers and sound pulses then ultimately Windows (XP) locks-up/BSOD's.
If I ctrl-tab quick enough I can go back into Windows and 2d is fine. If I then try and reload a game or any 3d app, it will immediately hang again, ie the only way to recover is to reboot.
The GPU temperature reported is fine around 80 degrees at time of crash.
However, I can run 3dmark2006 to my hearts content with no issue and the same with FSX.
I tried lots of different things, endless driver revisions (yes use Driver Cleaner 1st), re-installing games etc to no avail.
Increasing the GPU fan to 100% with Riva-Tuner has no effect but removing the side panel of my computer does result in no problem (strange eh).
Now from what I have read, it is a problem with the memory being overclocked too much at factory.
So as recommended by a poster to another thread, I reduced the factory 2300mhz memory speed down to 2200mhz and now I am running fine.
I have a large Thermaltake case with 4 system fans so cooling is not an issue. Having said that, even if I had no fans the card should still not crash as the product does not specify any special cooling requirements.
Has anyone else with this card experienced the same problem? Is it a driver issue, or a problem with this card that is known about by MSI? Or is the card faulty, should I send it back?
I reported the problem to my reseller after 1 day and they told me they would need the card for 7 days and send it back to MSI if they couldn't find a fault. I am not prepared to do that and if it is not fit for my purposes, shouldn't they offer me an instant refund even if they test it and it works for them. I know for a fact they won't pay someone to sit there playing bf2 for half and hour lol, they will more likely run 3dmark and then tell me card is fine, when it isn't (for me)!
Here are links to other people with similar issues:
http://forums.hexus.net/showthread.php?t=111126&page=1
http://forums.nvidia.com/index.php?act=ST&f=26&t=36798&st=0#entry221554
http://forums.hexus.net/showthread.php?t=110912
Thanks in advance for any words of wisdom.
Thermaltake Kandalf
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OMG THIS IS EXACTLY THE PROBLEM I HAVE!!
Ok sorry for caps. I have the exact same specs as elmes. I even had the exact same card as him previously x1900xtx from powercolor and it was rock solid for 1.5 years. I got the first MSI 8800 Ultra a couple of weeks ago and I launched EQ2 and lo and behold everything's great until I start seeing a weird black line flash in the middle of the screen every 20-30 seconds. Having had experience with problems like these I knew it was overheating or bad memory on the GPU or so I thought at the time. I have a ThermalTake Armor case with an 80mm fan custom mounted on the side blowing directly at the mobo and CPU, a Zalman 9500 on the CPU blasting the hot air across the case into the back exhaust 80mm, i've got a 40mm at the top of the case blowing the air out, 2 80mm front mounted blowing in and an extra exhaust 40mm in the back and the 80mm fan that comes side mounted on my OCZ GameXStream 700W PSU. So as you can tell the power and cooling is not a problem. Card runs 60c idle and max of 85c during ati tool artifact scan for 5 hours. (bosskiller could you please explain what combined PSU mode is exactly? i've never heard of that either, i have 2 PCI-E cables securely connected to the GPU).
So I launched CoH and same black lines, only worse. I then went on and downclocked the card to 635/2200 and surely enough all problems went away as far as the black line was concerned. So after poking around the net and ripping out a few hairs on my head for paying so much money for a buggy GPU, i decided to RMA it through Newegg. At the time I thought that maybe the box got damaged being shipped from CA to MA or I just got a bad card...
So I got a brand new 8800 last night, overnighted from NJ in fact. Box in perfect condition and everything inside....
I launch EQ2.....play for 30 minutes....no black lines...........WOW......n4_disp crash to desktop 5 min later..............
So sure enough I thought ok, don't panic....bad drivers.....uninstalled all of my nvidia drivers (I have an MSI P6N Diamond mobo too btw, had severe problems with software raid, SiL's running well now) and 162.18 release drivers....installed 158.22....same problem.
In an hour, the card started crashing in EQ2 every 5-10 minutes (and this was also at a particularly bad time as I was getting mauled by a lvl 57 epic djinn Al'zheri)....no black lines this time. So off I went and clocked it down to 635/2200 as I had the previous card, all problems vanished. Ran ATI tool artifact scan for overnight....all stable. Played EQ2 for an hour and a half this morning....all stable....
So now I'm certain that MSI 8800 Ultra is clocked too high. In fact go and take a look at the OC settings of other VGA manufacturers, MSI is the highest with the exception of XFX.
So either the QA team at MSI didn't do a proper job or 2 cards shipped from different locations with a 2 week delay in between happened to magically be bad. I'm gonna call Newegg today and see if I can exchange it for another brand.....
PC specs:
MSI NX8800Ultra-T2D768E-HD-OC GeForce 8800Ultra 768MB
MSI P6N Diamond LGA 775 NVIDIA nForce 680i SLI
Intel Core 2 Duo E6700 Conroe 2.66GHz LGA 775 (running at stock speed)
G.SKILL 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800
OCZ GameXStream OCZ700GXSSLI ATX12V 700W
Seagate 320GBx2 RAID-0 HD on SiL

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