MSI GNB Max (MS-6565): insufficient voltage
I have just installed my new GNB Max, and got XP Pro up and running. Upon installing PC Alert 4, I recieved a warning that the +3.3V was actually sub 3V(2.9+V). What effect will this have? And what kind of Variance should I tolerate?
Many thanks.
My GNB Max + Antec true power 430 read 3.33.
Sounds like a power supply not handling the load.
Acceptable tolerance in the PC industry is +-5% (3.135 is therfor the lower limit)
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What's the deal with this new type of memory?
I can only find bits and pieces of information from online retail stores and I am bit frustrated.
Does anyone know where I can find more information?
CheersQuote
Originally posted by vaporas
I visited the forum. Thanks for the tip. :-)
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If you increase the fsb speed to 170MHz, why not decrease the multiplier?
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Now the temperature is between 46c and 52c.
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Very high temp. with GNB MAX
Hello, i have a problem with my MSI GNB MAX motherboard and my p4 3,06 ghz
My cpu temperatures are very high, with a maximum of 85/86c,,, is this normal??
Anyone else having a similar problem like this?
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(not overclocked)If Vcor is 1.4 (I'm running 1.525 but reads 1.47 in PCAlert), AND fsb is set for 134, AND your HSF is running AND has good contact, there is no way for it to be that hot. The stock HSF is a pretty good part. I would suggest getting a temperature probe and touching it to the base edge of the HSF to see if you are really that hot. In Bios, I have the cut off threshold at 65C and alarm at 63C. I dont know the exact conversion but 86C is near hot enough to boil water. The laquer from the chip would probably begin to melt and create an odor.
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Also the latest Deluxe version of the board should be coming with ATA 133 and FireWire also??
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Gnb max make me crazy !! bug report
Please help!
I had before abit bd7II 845e mobo with p4 [email protected] ghz
And audigy2 platinum soundcard and bluetooth dongle. 2*256mb ddr400 ram.
My p4 1.8 ghz worked fine with 1.5v 133mhz@2400mhz in my abit mobo.I work with this computer half year without any problem.
I bought the "new, fast..." msi gnb max with bluetooth,thinking how fast the double ram control,and the onboard bluetooth better than my usb dongle.
My problems:
1.:
when i in bios set up fsb 133mhz then work all,but just 100 mhz : my p4 go 1.8ghz
when i in bios set 160 mhz then ~120 mhz
And once more can i set 178 mhz once not,than go the fsb 133 mhz and my p4 2.4 ghz, but when i restart my system than again work with 100 mhz. This game make me CRAZY!!!!
When i set up in bios the fsb to 133mhz then why not work correctly 133mhz, why 100 mhz?????????????
Thats the stupiest think what i saw in my life!!!
2.:
My audigy2 card what before in my abit mobo work perfect,this mobo once go infrared remote control, once not, i don´t know why!!!!!!!!
3.:Bluetooth once work perfect,once not and i don´t know why !!!!!!!!! (It seems all right but just when i would like send program to my nokia,or activesync with my ipaq the say error with services)
4.: I make test with msi fuzzylogic 4 to overclock my mobo. work great but this program is buggy. When i close than mak acces violation error.
I tried with higher voltage too,but in bios and via fuzzylogic not worked perfect too.
My mobo came from factory with bios 2.2, what i heard little bit buggy,later i flash bios 2.1 and try too.... wothout result.
I need help,i need support!!!!!
I SPEND 240€~240$ for this mobo,
I´M NOT BETA TESTER !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
When msi not solve these problems next week then i give back this mobo to shop,and nomore buy another msi board.
From januar 10 (bios 2.2) msi know this bios buggy and 2 month later no update!!!!!!!
X( X( X( X(Please help!
I had before abit bd7II 845e mobo with p4 [email protected] ghz
And audigy2 platinum soundcard and bluetooth dongle. 2*256mb ddr400 ram.
My p4 1.8 ghz worked fine with 1.5v 133mhz@2400mhz in my abit mobo.I work with this computer half year without any problem.
I bought the "new, fast..." msi gnb max with bluetooth,thinking how fast the double ram control,and the onboard bluetooth better than my usb dongle.
My problems:
1.:
when i in bios set up fsb 133mhz then work all,but just 100 mhz : my p4 go 1.8ghz
when i in bios set 160 mhz then ~120 mhz
And once more can i set 178 mhz once not,than go the fsb 133 mhz and my p4 2.4 ghz, but when i restart my system than again work with 100 mhz. This game make me CRAZY!!!!
When i set up in bios the fsb to 133mhz then why not work correctly 133mhz, why 100 mhz?????????????
Thats the stupiest think what i saw in my life!!!
2.:
My audigy2 card what before in my abit mobo work perfect,this mobo once go infrared remote control, once not, i don´t know why!!!!!!!!
3.:Bluetooth once work perfect,once not and i don´t know why !!!!!!!!! (It seems all right but just when i would like send program to my nokia,or activesync with my ipaq the say error with services)
4.: I make test with msi fuzzylogic 4 to overclock my mobo. work great but this program is buggy. When i close than mak acces violation error.
I tried with higher voltage too,but in bios and via fuzzylogic not worked perfect too.
My mobo came from factory with bios 2.2, what i heard little bit buggy,later i flash bios 2.1 and try too.... wothout result.
I need help,i need support!!!!!
I SPEND 240€~240$ for this mobo,
I´M NOT BETA TESTER !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
When msi not solve these problems next week then i give back this mobo to shop,and nomore buy another msi board.
From januar 10 (bios 2.2) msi know this bios buggy and 2 month later no update!!!!!!!
X( X( X( X( -
Mt CPU Core Voltage is showing up as 1.42-1.44 in
the Bios & MBM.
Is this a problem?? Should I change it to !.5 or so in
the bios??
The board has Bios 2.2 in it......
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Thanks
MikeThanks ASSAF for the reply. If 1.42-1.44 is ok I'll
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broke in.
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Thanks
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