MSI GT60 20J BSOD MEMORY Issue

Hello everyone,
I'm having some problems with my laptop lately, and I'd like some help from experts here if possible. I have bought this laptop MSI GT60 2OJ-097US 3 months ago, and along with it I also bought 4 memories Kingston 8GB 1600MHz DDR3L (PC3-12800) 1.35V Non-ECC CL11 SODIMM.
When my laptop arrived I immediately installed the 32 GB of memory, so I started using the new laptop with 32 GB memory since the beginning, and the first BSOD was a week after that. I didn't care much about it at the beginning, but a month ago these BSODs have becoming more frequent, like twice a week. I use this laptop everyday, I even use it for work.
Well, I see in BSOD this message "memory_management" so I decided to run a test using Windows memory diagnostic tool and it gave memory errors. A week ago, to isolate the problem and to find what was causing it, I run the test for each memory bank in the same slot, and run the test for each memory slot with the same memory bank, and everything passed the test. Finally, I run the test with all memory banks inserted and it passed the test this time, I did it again to be sure and it passed, so I assumed that changing memory positions maybe resolved the issue. However, today I got the same BSOD again, and the memory diagnostic tool resulted in memory errors.
I have read in some forums that I can try raising voltage +0.05 but I can't find the option in BIOS setup.
I've downloaded and installed CPU-Z but I don't have the knowledge to interpret it. I'm posting the screenshots here, so you can see if there is any problem. Please see screenshots below:
I have Windows Ultimate 7, I upgraded from Windows 7 Professional.
I would greatly appreciate if you can provide some advice to solve this problem.
Thanks

Hi chc, BIOS update seems to fix the problem, because it has been 4 days without any BSOD.
Before the update my laptop crashed at least once a day. I had updated the intel and nvidia drivers too, but it wasn't until I updated BIOS that BSOD stopped.
By the way, I purchased this laptop from Amazon and it came with a BIOS version from 2012.
Thanks

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Game Performance:   ★★★★★★★★★★
Storage Performance:   ★★★★★★★★★★
Gaming Design:      ★★★★★★★★★☆
Sound Quality:         ★★★★★★★★★★
Keyboard:         ★★★★★★★★★☆
Online speed:         ★★★★★★★★★☆
Price Range:         ★★★★★★★★☆

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Quote from: zipper.sippola on 18-September-13, 17:57:49
Same here, Gt70 0NE + 680M; overclocking GPU core causes clockdowns so gains are minimal. Overclocking memory is successful upto about 2500MHz but gains are small as the memory isn't the restricting factor in preformance - or the effect is just minuscule. So mostly 2 to 8 % in benchmarks, max.
With extreme air cooling and a modified VBios, it's possible to get up to around 15%......I know this first hand.
I just don't care to do it since there's little point in pushing the hardware that hard regularly. Yes, it's great for bragging rights, but it's not useful for long term use unfortunately.
Overclocking the memory in the GTX675M might help a bit more than in the 680M. I'm not sure, I haven't really followed up on the other cards.

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I have my bios set to AHCI mode and i have tried the Vertex 4 by itself and also with the WD 500gb in the other port. When i switch back to Vertex 4 in port 4 and WD in port 1, no issues at all. Just trying to see if this is a known issue or anything else i can look at. I made sure to break the RAID 0 and it was a clean install of windows 7 to the drive.
Running on bios E16F3IMS.10M. The Vertex 4 is at its latest firmware as well. I do have one PCI device i can't identify in Windows and thinking it might be the issue but can't narrow it down. I have the Intel RST installed.
I also posted this on the OCZ forum and did their tips as well.
Thanks!
James

Hi everyone, I've still the problem with my windows 8 or my windows server 2012 installed on disk on vhd file.
I've putted on an other kingston ssd on sata2 and there is no problem! crazy

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@Svet
Can you unlock cpu multiplier, memory tweaks,cpu throttling,PPU Dsable etc with this latest bios from msi? And also can you update the OROM to the latest ver?
http://www.msi.com/service/download/bios-18654.html
The other options i mentioned is found on this link
https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=164130.0
But Wait... does the bios matter between MSI GT60-onc vs MSI GT60-one? Because when i upgraded my laptop to 680M. In bios it shows MSI GT60-ONE. SO the link above is for MSI GT60-ONE version.

in its usual place https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=134259.0

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