MSI GT70 Dominator GPU Throttling Issues

Hello everyone, I'm new to these forums, but figured someone on here might have an answer to my problems. I received my GT70 Dominator yesterday, and am having serious trouble getting it to run Titanfall properly. By default I used the Nvidia Experience recommended settings which were 1080p, and High across the board. This made sense because I bought this laptop to replace my desktop which has a Core i5 2400, 8GB Ram, and a GTX 760 in it. My GT70 has the Core i7 4800HQ, 16GB Ram, and the GTX 870M. The laptop's CPU should be more powerful, and the GPU should be within 10%. Titanfall runs at the same settings on my Desktop Flawlessly, but the framerate drop on this laptop is HUGE. The game will start around 60FPS, but will almost immediately start dropping in to the 20's. The FPS fluctuate constantly.
I've tried running MSI Afterburner to see exactly what speeds the GPU is running at under load. Unfortuantely it can't display the info yet (the 870m must be too new.) I tried GPUZ then, and it just says the GPU's specs (doesn't show moment to moment actual numbers.) However the MSI Kombustor software does display the Core speed and Throttle speeds. The Core Speeds almost instantly go down to 888Mhz, and drop off from there. The Throttle speeds go from 754Mhz, to 724Mhz. This is before the GPU even hits the 80C tempature limit. I've never seen this GPU over 900Mhz where 941Mhz should be it's baseclock (which I always thought was the minimum.) Running at 724Mhz whould net between a 20-25% performance drop, and would make sense why Titanfall can't keep up with my Desktop performance.
Has anyone else come across this issue? Has anyone found a way to disable, or change the throttling settings? If I can't fix this then the laptop really doesn't perform at the level I need it to.

Quote from: hch;100907
NV changed the way GPU works on GTX TITAN and GTX 700 Series, maybe try to increasing the temperature target with some third-party software, then you can raise the performance.
Sorry GTX 870M doesn't work with this.
But the dropping behavior seems normal, cause it will start dropping when hits its temperature limit. that's probably why it acted this way.
Think you can try the methods other mentioned maybe it's the setting or driver version.

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