MSI GT783-625US randomly hard boots

Equipment: MSI GT783-625US
Purchased: 2012/01/06
Let me start with the events of about 2 years ago, approximately 7-8 months after original purchase... While playing BF3, laptop powered down abruptly and completely. Thinking it was just a fluke, or maybe an overheating problem after playing too long, I hit the power button to boot and diagnose. It ran for a couple of minutes as I checked for good software to use to check temperatures, etc (low demand web browsing), then abruptly powered down again. This time the power button did nothing at all. Tried many iterations of troubleshooting, with and without battery, with and without AC adaptor, and it would occasionally boot for a few minutes. More often, pressing the power button would do nothing at all. After some difficulty reaching MSI, they finally got back to me based on a negative review I posted on a retailer (NewEgg, I think) and we went through the RMA process in which the laptop was repaired.
Now let's fast-forward to a few weeks ago when it randomly powered off while gaming again. This time it came back up and continued to run without any issue.
Fast-forwarding again to yesterday, powered off abruptly, though this time it immediately powered its self back on. It ran for a few minutes before doing the same thing. I started troubleshooting, removing unnecessary software and attempting to determine cause, while the intervals got shorter and shorter. Now it's caught in a death spiral of powering on, off within a few seconds (not nearly enough time to clear BIOS, let alone begin loading Windows), then on again, then off, then on. It's difficult to get it to stop because it literally doesn't stay on long enough to power it off again.
I haven't yet had the opportunity to go through the troubleshooting process with and without battery, with and without AC adaptor, etc... I wanted to start by searching similar complaints and reaching out to the community for potential guidance. It definitely doesn't seem like an isolated issue. It's disturbing and annoying that the same essential thing has happened to this same unit twice. I'm suspecting there's a systematic issue with the power supply on this specific model, which is made especially frustrating with the fact that this was a $2,500 unit new.
In any case, wanted to run this past you guys. I will probably troubleshoot a bit on my own, though this unit contains sensitive financial data and I am hesitant to send it anywhere for repair... If I can't make it work on my own, I am likely to remove hard drives and sell body for parts.
Any thoughts?

hmm either this could be temperature on cpu is high over 100 degress so laptop shuts itself down to prevent damage and when it is that hot it will remain off and pushing power button wont turn it back on so when it has coold down it will power on but then it will turn off once temperature kicks up to 100 so if this it open a program check cpu temp while laptop is just on and see if you can see cpu temp kicking up if it does that sounds like your thermal paste is worn out and needs to be re-placed with new thermal paste

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Sounds like it is time to call Apple and make an appointment to take it in for them to examine it and find out what is wrong with it.

HT1557 10.9.2 update won't update on my imac 2010 at all, and now my computer won't shutdown or restart without a hard boot. Did anyone have this same problem and figure out how to fix it?

So for the past few weeks I've been trying to update the 10.9.2 update on my imac (2010 - 21.5 inch) and when I attempt to try to update the software my screen goes grey with a Software Updater top bar the shows up on the top of the grey screen and then just quits doing anything (except the screen saver which works after nothing else happens - and that shows you how long I've been waiting for the grey screen to magically do something. I've attempted downloading the software update then installing it but the same thing happens. I don't think any of my 3rd party software is the cause of this and i'd rather not uninstall the programs since the update won't even do anything. Utility is telling me nothing but the usual ARD element unable to be modified.
With the several failed attempts at installing this update (probably around 15x) my computer will not shutdown nor restart on command anymore. The only way I can shut it down is holding the power button.
I used to have so much faith in Apple products and used to be a devoted user, but since Jobs passed away the direction of Apple has gone down the toilet.

Well Bababooey if you're comparing yourself to a Apple Genius Bar then you should already know my answer, your snarky remark get a snarky reply. Why would I go to a salesperson to fix my computer problem when I can go directly go to the source itself. I used to sell Apple computers over 8 years ago and was apple certified before the Genius bar existed. If I am to go about fixing an issue I can't fix on my own I will go to the source itself meaning Apple's programmers and developers - being UI UX Developer myself I know they should have QA'd all platforms and troubleshooted any arising issues.
This was also the first time in the 20 years I've been using a Mac that I even attempted to go on this forum which i thought would put me in connection with a certified Apple representative. This turned out to be a complete waste of time just being a public forum with no Apple employee involved. I was hoping to find a quick fix but in turn I was only frustrated with stupid responses such as yours that were in no way an answer to my original question.
BTW I fixed the issue on my own and without your help or Apples help. I'm glad if all forums point here regarding this issue because I now have the answer. The answer I was looking for from someone earlier was as simple as this {Download Maverick and reinstall the platform - it will take an hour to do but afterward 10.9.2 was installed and my computer is now able to shutdown and restart without having to do a hard boot.} No more software update bar at top and no problems with my drive which I told both you and Grant - I know my computer better than you and I've probably been using them longer than you.
So again Babowa you were so wrong...... and I am right.
Again anyone having the same problem, I suggest reinstalling Maverick and you'll be suprised 10.9.2 will work fine.

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