Msi gtx 570 with gtx 470 pcb/cooler?

Hello everyone, so few days ago I've ordered Msi Gtx 570 from us.NCIX.com which as i thought was fully reference nvidia model with vapor chamber cooler. Today i got the package from them with the card which i didnt open yet cause card's serial number starts with 602-V222. I have found some disturbing reports that V222 means that this card comes with gtx 470 pcb/cooler which means worse/louder cooling. There were also reports of gtx 570's with gtx 480pcb/cooling.
here is the link to what i bought: http://us.ncix.com/products/index.php?usaffiliateid=1000031501&sku=57383&promoid=1339
My questions are:
Are all V222's come with gtx 470 pcb?
Can i find out which pcb version i got before i open the box?
How am i suppose to know what i am buying if p/n and pictures match nvidia reference model?
at this point i am feeling very frustrated cause if i open the box and the card has gtx 470 pcb, i will have to send it back, pay shipping/restocking and stay without the videocard for over a week again, and if that's the case i dont think i'd buy/recommend anything from MSI ever again.

reports can be found here:
https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=149368.0
https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=146220.msg1098864#msg1098864
http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/archive/1752707
http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum-replies.cfm?t=1643736
http://www.overclock.net/nvidia/1137698-two-weeks-already-having-rma-msi.html
http://www.overclock.net/nvidia/1133828-my-new-gtx-570-shorter.html
http://futuremark.yougamers.com/forum/showthread.php?t=153294
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?272531-New-MSI-GTX570-revision
http://www.overclock.net/nvidia/1049000-new-gtx570-revision.html

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