MSI GTX 680 Lightning OC problem

Hi,
Im hoping i can find some help here. Im having this kind of problem: if i OC my card drivers will crash after few min of playing/benchmarking. Card is only stable with Pre OC setting. tested with 306.23 whql drivers and with 310.70 whql drivers.
Temps are fine about ~50c all to time. i have this "new" card and im using normal bios. Card is only 2 days old
Windows 7 x64
i7 950@4,2 Ghz
MSI GTX 680 Lighthing
12 GB g.skill 1600 mhz ram
Thermaltake toughpower 1200 w

Quote from: zbychu222 on 15-January-13, 08:20:52
this card is made for overclocking please you think im not raise gpu voltage again please dont give me that stupid (no offence) answer
if someone buy 680 lighting i think he now what he bought sorry for english
Did your post mean for me? I was replying Zhoti's post and not yours .... Zhoti said he had unstable while adding +50mv and he didn't say about adding GPU volt so I assumed that he didn't add volt and I told him to add voltage no offence OK? Also sorry for my English language (I'm not quite good enough in English).
Froggy Gremlin was right, I think you're starting hijack this thread, you may make/start your own thread if you want to.

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Quote from: zbychu222 on 15-January-13, 08:20:52
this card is made for overclocking please you think im not raise gpu voltage again please dont give me that stupid (no offence) answer
if someone buy 680 lighting i think he now what he bought sorry for english
Did your post mean for me? I was replying Zhoti's post and not yours .... Zhoti said he had unstable while adding +50mv and he didn't say about adding GPU volt so I assumed that he didn't add volt and I told him to add voltage no offence OK? Also sorry for my English language (I'm not quite good enough in English).
Froggy Gremlin was right, I think you're starting hijack this thread, you may make/start your own thread if you want to.

Need manual for MSI GTX 680 Lightning

I recently purchased a MSI GTX 680 Lightning card, but the cd that came along was faulty, I cant open the pdf manual. I have contacted the shop I purchased the card from but they cannot get another cd for me. From where can I download the manual?
Great card btw, I just want to read more about the card details.
/Peter

as flobelix said vga manuals doesn't have much.
but you can use nvidias official pages for the more information.
http://www.geforce.com/hardware/desktop-gpus/geforce-gtx-680

MSI GTX 680 Lightning - No Signal/100% Fans

Hi, I recently built a computer, which contains an MSI GTX 680 Lightning. This is the first time I've built a computer so don't kill me if this has a simple solution.
The computer ran fine for a few months, then all the sudden I started getting a recurring issue where both my moniters show "No signal" and the 680's fans turn up to 100%, it stays like that and I have to reset the computer, after which it seems to run fine for a while and then it happens again unexpectedly.
The issue seems to happen more frequently when I'm playing games, but it also happens when I'm not even at the computer. Also, I haven't updated any drivers or anything recently so I don't think it would be that. This is pretty annoying, so any help would be appreciated.
~Thanks.

can you list full system specifications? read >>Posting Guide<<

MSI GTX 680 Lightning compatibility with Windows 64/ Asus P6T Deluxe MB

I purchased a GTX 680 Lightning on Dec. 16. I've been having random PC lockups and Driver hangs/restarts. Here's what I have done so far to try and remedy the problem:
-started with MSI Afterburner version 2.2.5 BETA and Nvidia ( MSI provided ) drivers 301.42, and standard bios .
-upgraded to various newer versions of NVidia drivers, BETA and WHQL. Usually the newer drivers become even more unstable.
-Upgraded to Afterburner 2.3
-I had the original bios versions first shipped with the card, I have since updated the BIOS:
from 80.04.09.00.F7 --> 80.04.28.00.39
from 80.04.09.00.F8 --> 80.04.28.00.3A ( LN2 )
-NVidia control panel settings left at default, with Global/all profiles set to "prefer maximum performance".
-I originally had a GTX295 installed, so all drivers etc. were fully removed, followed by clean install of 301.40
-Afterburner 2.3.0 is installed, Core voltage is set to +12mv, and the power limit is set to 178%
-memtest run for hours on my memory, zero faults.
-furmark run for hours, no crashes
-3dmark run repeatedly with varying overclock settings in Afterburner, no crashes
The updated LN2 BIOS seems to be sllightly more stable, but I still see random crashes when running Windows media player, VLC Player, Internet Explorer. Its definately a problem between windows multimedia and the Nvidia drivers. I can play Skyrim maxxed out, for hours, yet when I first login to the computer and run IE, it sometimes locks up.
I've had the driver stop and recover while Afterburner is monitoring on-screen, and sometimes the CPU load will spike to 100% at the crash, yet sometimes it does not. GPU power voltage always sits at 0.987 or 1.212V. matching the power spec expected for the LN2 BIOS.
I've had GPU-Z cause at least 1 lockup, with the screen blanking red. Only 1.
My next step will be to try updated drivers again, now that the bios has been updated. I may also downgrade Afterburner to 2.2.5 BETA.
Does anyone have any other recommendations I can try? Can someone point me to the latest BIOS version for the card ( or can i try that hybrid BIOS now available? )
At what point do I give up and RMA the card?
Card S/N is 602-V283-02SB1206030939
Windows 7 Professional 64
Corsair 12GB mem, matched sticks
69 GB SSD for the OS, a Raptor 320GB disk for the rest
Antec True Power Quattro 1000W power supply
Asus P6T Deluxe MB ( not v2 )
Intel I7 cpu 2.93 Ghz

I'm going on 3 days of stable performance. I made 2 changes:
1) core voltage in MSI afterburner upped to +87mV, power limit at 150%.
2) I have an ASUS P6T Deluxe motherboard, and am running the UPU-6 engine. This utility is designed to let the motherboard auto-switch from max power savings -> medium power savings -> max performance ( 100% CPU ) -> turbo mode (O/C CPU ). I had this set on Auto, and I have re-set it manually to max-performance.
I think the EPU-6 engine was the problem, I am waiting for a few more days stability to prove the theory.
EUP-6 will lower your clock speed when idling, and then bump up your performance when you start doing things. In my case I would go from playing a game ( Skyrim) to running IE, and EPU-6 would change modes DOWN. In reverse, I would be doing nothing. then run IE or media player, and EPU-6 would change modes UP. Those state changes are where I think I was getting blackscreens and lockups.
I still don't understand it exactly, I think the combination of my MB changing power/performance AND the GTX680 also changing performce creates some kind of conflict. I have had the Afterburner graph going when the driver crashed, and it shows the GPU power maxing out when the driver crashed. All other graphs bottom out ie. the whole card "hiccups".
So I will put the core voltage back to defaults, and also set the Nvidia display/performance options all back to defaults, and keep the EPUJ-6 engine stuck on max-performance, which is basically leaving the MB running at 100% stock CPU and power. I expect that will prove stable and resolve the problem.
Crossing my fingers.

Msi gtx 680 lightning problems

I started out with a lightning that worked perfectly as advertised. I unistalled the card to compare it to another. When I reinstalled the card, I could no longer control voltage. It still functioned and clocked perfectly. I contacted msi, they had me flash a new BIOS. When that didn't work they had me rma and sent me a different card.
The new card is worse. Not only does it not allow voltage control in afterburner 2.2.3, but it will also o
Maxes out the power slider at 133% on ln2.
I've sent msi 2 emails regarding my problems with the new card and have not gotten a response.
1. Any ideas y I'm having problems?
2. Has anyone else been ignored by msi support?

There was a purpose of putting a locked voltage, even now on lightning. I have the old bios on my lightning and works unlocked 300% and voltage too. But you risk a degradation in time if you run the card 24/7 in games with 1.2+ voltage just for some couple mhz more. If you are oc-ing the card just for gaming it's useless, 680 it's powerful by it's nature, and 100-200mhz more in gaming = 0 performance.
And not all lightnings are like "in the msi picture advertising, that you buy a lightning for extreme OC" mine can't pass 1250Mhz on Heaven even on 1.25V on LN2 bios. So lightning in my opinion is still a luck, not a 100% card, chip and pcb that guarantees you a success overclock, compared with another product, or reference card.

MOVED: msi gtx 680 lightning problems

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There was a purpose of putting a locked voltage, even now on lightning. I have the old bios on my lightning and works unlocked 300% and voltage too. But you risk a degradation in time if you run the card 24/7 in games with 1.2+ voltage just for some couple mhz more. If you are oc-ing the card just for gaming it's useless, 680 it's powerful by it's nature, and 100-200mhz more in gaming = 0 performance.
And not all lightnings are like "in the msi picture advertising, that you buy a lightning for extreme OC" mine can't pass 1250Mhz on Heaven even on 1.25V on LN2 bios. So lightning in my opinion is still a luck, not a 100% card, chip and pcb that guarantees you a success overclock, compared with another product, or reference card.

MOVED: msi gtx 680 lightning unlock

This topic has been moved to BETA & MOD BIOS Section.
https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=164556.0

Hi, i tried too the modded LN2 BIOS and i have experienced very strange behavior:
After flashing the LN2 BIOS with this one (80.04.47.00.42) and rebooting - the PC did not start, there was no signal to the monitor (the two DVI ports were not working), only through the HDMI (connected with a TV) i saw that the motherboard was reporting some kind of an error and was asking to make a choice - F11, F12 ... but whatever i was choosing there was no reaction. The keyboard was operational, it seemed that the motherboard BIOS was freezed. I tried hard restart -> same situation. Then i changed to the default bios (80.04.47.00.18) and the PC booted and seemed to work normal. Ok, i tried once again the modded bios (80.04.47.00.42) -> the same behavior (BIOS crash). Somehow (i do not know exactly how) i succeeded to boot Windows with 80.04.47.00.42 and everything seems fine. But when i play games for a long time (for an hour for example) suddenly the game freezes and the cpu usage raises near 100%, the whole PC hangs and only hard restart fixes the problem. The problem repeats randomly with and without GPU overclock.
My PC configuration is Biostar TZ77XE4,I7-3770K@[email protected],Prolimatech Megahalems Rev.C,2x8GB DDR3 2133Mhz GEIL EVO LEGGER ,SSD OCZ Vertex 4 256GB SATA3;Seagate 500GB,WD Black 640GB,MSI N680GTX Lightning@1359/7600,Creative 24bit,Cooler Master HAF X,Chieftec CFT-750-14CS, 22' TFT Benq 1920*1080
I think that the problem is between the motherboard BIOS and the GPU BIOS, but i cannot explain it to myself - why? The motherboard bios is the latest stable (Z77CF419.BST). Now i am with the unlocked 80.04.28.00.3A LN2 bios and everything is working fine with and without GPU overclock.

MSI GTX 680 LIGHTNING having MSAA ANTI ALIASING ISSUE

Hey guys!
I have a question concerning my GPU. I would like to know if anyone thinks this is a faulty card or is there something I need to do to fix the issue.
MSAA Anti-Aliasing is causing a very weird blood graphic issue... Toggle it off and the blood looks fine, turn it too 2,4 or 8 and the blood is outlines in glowing yellow craziness(see image link below)!
My card is stock and has never been OC. I've re installed the game, done clean installs of GPU drivers but the error still persists(only if MSAA Anti Aliasing is enabled). Prior to installing new drivers I was getting a OPEN GL error 3 code , the new drivers seem to have fixed that.
This is zoomed in using a camera, it looks the same at all distances. The yellow trace around the blood shines like a light in game. This does not happen randomly, all blood splatter in the grass looks this way when
MSAA Anti-Aliasing is enabled.
Hope someone can help!
Thanks for reading,
cheers!

Quote from: Svet on 13-February-13, 10:31:43
list full system specifications, read >>Posting Guide<<
does the same hapends in other games?
what vga drivers you use?
Hey thanks for replying! Sorry I will post my system info below.
I just updated my drivers to 313.96 from 310.70. With the 310.70 driver I was experiencing the MSAA issue(above post) but also with the I was getting a full game crash after 20-30 mins of game play. The 313.96 resolved the crash but not the MSAA issue.
System
Board- ASUS|P8Z77-V PRO Z77
VGA- MSI 680GTX LIGHTNING
PSU -CORSAIR | AX1200I 1200W RT
CPU- INTEL|CORE I7 3770K 3.5G 8M R
MEM- 4Gx4|CORSAIR CMZ16GX3M4X1600C9
SSD -240G|INTEL SSDSC2CT240A3K5 R
HDD- 1 TB WD Black Caviar
COOLER- WATER COOLER CORSAIR| CWCH100 R
OS- WIN7 64BIT
CASE- CORSAIR OBSIDIAN 650D
Opt Drv- ASUS...
I can post a DxDiag if needed too!

GTX 680 Lightning very slow

Hello there,
I'm stuck with the installation of the graphic card MSI GTX 680 Lightning, which is very, very slow. For sake of comparison, it does not score even 9000 in 3D Mark, while my previous Radeon 5770 reached 17000 without any problem.
I tried several actions:
Remove drivers with drive sweeper under safe mode.
Installed updated drivers.
Reinstalled Win 7 64 bits
None of that make any difference. If I return to the previous card, the system works well again.
My PC is:
Processor: Intel Quad Core i7-960 (chipset Intel X58 (Tylersburg 36S) + ICH10R)
Mobo: XFX MB-X58I-CH19
Memory: 12 GB (Kingston 4096 MB PC3-10600 DDR3 SDRAM triple channel)
HDs: SATA 3 Gb/s SAMSUNG HD321KJ and SATA 6 Gb/s ST2000DL003-9VT166
PSU: Corsair TX850
Operational System: Windows 7 64 bits Ultimate
Graphic card: MSI N680GTX Lightning 2 GB GDDR5 PCI-E 3
Does anybody have any idea on what should I do to make it work?
Could it be some incompatibility with my mobo?
Best regards,
Antonio Intini

Quote from: xmad on 01-October-12, 08:19:48
What does gpuz say? (Can you post a screen shot)
Have you installed Afterburner? Is it throttling or anything when using kombuster?
Can you upload a copy of your vbios somewhere for svet to take a look?
<<<NVFLASH>>>
with syntax from cmd:
nvflash -b myrom.rom [ENTER]
then upload myrom.rom somewhere and give a link to it
Are you using the newest applicable bios for your mobo? (Since the booting is an issue this may be easy)
**EDIT: I have been having issue with LUCID MVP since I installed my 680 (not lightning though) I am not sure if that mobo is equiped, might want to try uninstalling if it is and see if it is better.
Hello Xmad,
I updated my BIOS today with the latest file from XFX. Good news: the processor speed is now OK, though SM2 and SM3 in 3dMark are still bad:
Overall score: 11715 (target 19200, but it was not above 8000 before the BIOS update)
SM2 score: 3791 (target 7300)
SM3 score: 5530 (target 10000)
CPU score: 4836 (target 4700) -> great!
I tried to use NVFlash, but it does not run in Win 7 64bits - do you have a version for 64 bits?
Apparently the graphic card works well with Kombustor benchmarkings:
[img=http://s6.postimage.org/6fpb88del/Kombustor_P1599.jpg]
Any suggestion of a next step?

Sudden video crashes/black screen flashing with MSI GTX 680 + MSI GT 640 (PhysX)

I've been running an MSI GTX 680 Lightning + MSI GT 640 (dedicated PhysX) setup since last September with excellent results. Most of my Steam games would crash in less than 10-15 minutes before I added the 640.
Just this week, however, I've noticed a new and different problem. While playing several different games, the monitor randomly flashes black, then the game stutters and finally my whole system crashes. I've never seen this before. The only thing that seems to correct the problem is to scale back the resolution from 2560x1600 to 1920x1200 or even 1280x800.
The problem seems to be getting worse. Now, while doing anything on my PC, the system freezes briefly, the screen rapidly goes black, then turns back on and system unfreezes. This happens 3-5 times in a cycle then stops. The cycle repeats every few minutes and happened twice while typing this post.
I've got the latest graphics and other component drivers installed. All diagnostics say the video cards are working properly, but these problems persist.
Are these indications of failing video cards? Any/all suggestions appreciated.
My system specs: MSI GTX 680 Lightning 2GB, MSI GT 640 1GB (dedicated PhysX), i5-2500K, Asus P8Z77-V, Coolermaster V8, 16GB Corsair Vengeance 1600, 4TB storage, Corsair HX1000, Dell 3008WFP, Windows 8 Pro 64-bit.

First of all remove the GT640 so we can check if the issue is solely related to the GTX680. Then monitor temps in load and idle using Afterburner (>>How to use MSI Afterburner<<)
If problem presists when not using the GT640 remove current drivers in safe mode using >>Driver Fusion<< and install latest MSI driver (http://www.msi.com/product/vga/N680GTX-Lightning.html#/?div=Driver&os=All). Yes, I know that driver is older than Nvidia one but it is a surely working one with the special MSI design and features.

GTX 680 Lightning now crashes to RED screen after RMA from March 2013

I had a GTX 680 Lightning crashing problem that required an RMA replacement back in March. Here's the thread I started about it: https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=167822.msg1228389
Well, now I get a RED screen crash/restart every time I start any game. It happens within a few seconds to a few minutes, but it's consistent regardless of the game I play. Could this be another bad 680 after only 3 months?
My system specs: MSI GTX 680 Lightning 2GB, MSI GT 640 1GB (dedicated PhysX), i5-2500K, Asus P8Z77-V, Coolermaster V8, 16GB Corsair Vengeance 1600, 4TB storage, Corsair HX1000, Dell 3008WFP, Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit.

Red screens are usually caused by software isuues. First remove any monitoring software (like Afterburner) and retry. If no help try uninstalling current driver in safemode using >>Driver Fusion<< and power down. Remove the GT640 out of your system and restart. Install Nvidia driver and retry. For driver use the known good MSI driver 306.97: http://www.msi.com/service/download/driver-19780.html

MSI GTX 680 fan automatic speed problem

Hi guys..first sorry for my bad english..
I buy today MSI GTX 680 and I have problem with automatic fan speed...i had GTX 570 TF and that was working perfect but with GTX 680 I have weird problem, when GPU temperature goes up, fan RPM speed goes down
Screenshot:
Now I disable auto speed and set speed manually, but that's not best solution becouse I must manually set higher speed when i want play BF3, Call of duty MW3 etc...
Anyone know what is problem?
I update GPU drivers, MSI afterburner ( 2.2.0 ), chipset drivers...
Thanks!

Fans or other spare parts aren't sold separately. If your vga is still covered by warranty contact MSI if seller refuses rma: >>How to contact MSI.<<
That of course means the vga needs to be rma'ed. Alternatively you can use an aftermarket cooler like Alpenfoehn Peter, Prolimatech MK26 or Accelero Xtreme III

MSI GTX 275 Lightning Core Clock problems

Gooday
I've had my MSI GTX 275 lightning Edition card now for about 1.5 years, when i play games the core clock runs at its full speed of 702 Mhz, then when im in Windows, its drops to 301 Mhz (understandable, 2 different modes 3d/2d, i think), but now when i play games and dont alt-tab or anything it runs @ 702, but the minute i alt-tab just to check something on the net i start getting problems, when i switch back to the game it switches smoothly and perfect, but 30 minutes sown the line the whole display freezes,(but the game sounds continue) then if alt-tab or ctrl-alt-del its runs it fine but from then on the card FORCES the core clock down to 400Mhz and i have to restart the pc to get to to normal. and it does that even more often if msiafterburner is running (but also when i uninstalled it)
Why would it do that?, the core doesnt get hot, i leave the fan on 100%(core temp=45-60'C)
Extra info :
Drivers=270.61 (same on 266, and 258)
same happens if i oc to 740
psu is 600W Vantec (2x 22 amp 12V rail)
Core i7 920 (no oc)
7 GB Ram
Windows 7 x64 SP1 ultimate

Sorry i forgot to add that to the first post, yep, re-installed windows, with/out SP1 with th different driver versions and also with/out or different gpu programs ie afterburner evga precision, riva tuner. The problem wasnt noticeable for about a year then lately it got worse and worse. I thought it was afterburner and the settings but without afterburner the game would only freeze much later on (few more hours) i saw (sorry cant say were exactly) that other users also had similar problems, where the game would get very choppy and windows would say "display driver stopped responding...) mine doesnt tell me that, the game would freeze and/or get a black screen and then few seconds later it would return but most of the time with the Forced down (400mhz) clock but windows didnt pick up display probs

MSI GTX 580 Lightning XE Fan Problem

Hi forumites
I am the proud owner of a new MSI GTX 580 Lightning XE Graphics card, so far I have not had any problems at all with my games and am happy to report the card appears to be functioning in the way I had hoped (better than my previous card).
However there is one annoying problem I have been having with the fans. For some strange reason the card appears to be spiking fan usage at idle for no reason.
I can be sat idle at desktop, or surfing the internet and for no reason the fan shoots up to 3500RPM.
In order to try and troubleshoot the problem I have done some fan usage monitoring with MSI Afterburner, as you can see here the fan speed seems to shoot straight up and then back down again.
My card has not been modified in anyway , neither have I fiddled with the card's BIOS.
Do you have any suggestions as to what could be causing this problem?
My signature should hopefully contain my system specifications. Card appears to be functioning fine in games and 3dMark and I have not had ANY TDR crashes, just this fan thing is getting quite annoying!
Thanks.
John

Quote from: JohnZS on 29-December-11, 21:02:31
Sorry I must admit I must have not made myself quite clear, it is both fans on the GPU which rev up to very fast speeds for a second or two. I have noticed that this only happens within the first say 10-20minutes of the PC being switched on, it then calms down and acts as normal after a while.
Even loading with Kombuster etc fans rev as expected to a speed to cool the card (~68C FULL LOADING in KOMBUSTER) I am pretty happy that this temperature is what I should be expecting as various reviews say this card is very cool compared to say a Generic 580. I also recall a post of your's Svet somewhere saying that the card loads from 65-70 depending on operation and cooling of case etc.
I shall have to take the side off and inspect the LEDs.
John
Quote from: JohnZS on 29-December-11, 21:02:31
Sorry I must admit I must have not made myself quite clear, it is both fans on the GPU which rev up to very fast speeds for a second or two.
Yes, i confused your case with this one: https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=155293.0
Where one of the FANs was behavior different than another one, so in my last reply in your topic i was assuming that this was your issue

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