MSI GTX 750 ti + HP Pavilion + Legacy BIOS setting = still doesn't work

I recently decided to upgrade the video card in my ~3 year old HP Pavilion (h8 1237-c). It's been running a GeForce GTX 460, but the thing is really loud and obviously several generations behind current video hardware.
So I purchased an EVGA GTX 750, but quickly ran into problems. Apparently, HP hasn't released a BIOS upgrade for this Pavilion for a long time (I'm on the latest - 7.12, dated 10/12/2011), and newer cards won't work with it. There were a lot of posts in multiple forums (Toms Hardware, HP forums, etc.) about this particular MSI 750 card and the "Legacy BIOS" switch it offered being a solution for this problem.
So I returned the EVGA card (which resulted in a Newegg restocking fee - ouch) and ordered the MSI card.
I'm getting the *exact same problem* (regardless of which position, 1 or 2, that the switch on the MSI card is using) - computer starts to boot up, won't get past the HP "splash screen" where I can hit ESC to enter setup.
Am I about to return my second video card, and just live with my old 560? Or can someone suggest something else I can try?

The problem is with the component support of your HP machine. The problem is not GOP or legacy vios but the need for a ME8 firmware including bios to run a GTX7xx on a socket 1155 based system. If HP can't supply such you will never be able to run a GeForce GTX7xx or later in your system.

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I would like to upgrade my desktop video card to a GTX 750 Ti.
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Excuse my bad english please,
I bought this video card from newegg, trying to upgrade my computer.
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The problem solved was for the original OP and not you. You high jacked another persons thread. I know your PC does not have Windows 8 from HP but have a look at this anyways. http://support.hp.com/us-en/document/c03653200
I see allot of interest in that GeForce card from various manufacturers, and it will not work. Interesting. Many of the various motherboards will not tolerate that card because of a BIOS issue computability.
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