MSI GTX580 Twin Frozr II OC Edition; Battlefield 3 green squares artifact crash.

Greetings respected moderators!
I came to your forum because I seek your help. Allow me to explain my problem. Today when I've played Battlefield 3 after a while my game crashed - it froze in place. The screen displayed small green square artifacts all over the screen. I had to force shut down the game with task manager in order to resume using my computer. I've restarted my game and continued playing it until it happened two more times in a short amount of time. Then I've decided to look into it.
This is what my screen looked liked, although this image is not mine. I'm only using it as a reference.
The most interesting thing is that I've only had this happen to me(exactly the same type of crash) once or twice in the past when I still had the old drivers. Back then I was using High video settings in my game. About a week or so ago I formatted my computer and installed the latest NVIDIA drivers - 310.90. This time I was using the lowest video settings in my game. Yet the game crashed more than it did with the higher settings. This puzzles me...
I did some research on the internet and what I've found out is that this type of crash is very commonly associated with GTX 580. Users with the same problems posted on many forums and the replies they got were all sorts of possible reasons why this crash occurs. One of them is being overheating. I've tested that and ran my game the fourth time after my third crash, and the temperatures of the GPU didn't go over 70°C. Then I've also did a stress test with MSI Kombustor and the temperature stayed under 70°C. So I believe I can exclude overheating.
The next very common thing that users wrote was that the GTX 580's core voltage was set too low by factory default, causing this type of crash with DirectX 11 games while playing them. By manually increasing the voltage it seemed that it was the most common fix for the problem. According to MSI Afterburner my core voltage is 1025 and people on the forums suggested raising it to 1100, therefore fixing their crashing.
Third thing that I've read was that this is caused by the latest 310.90 drivers. Some users with the problems reverted to the old drivers and the crashing stopped, while it didn't fix it for others.
Now my questions is: Why did my game start crashing all of a suddenly, in such way on lowest video settings and so frequently, when I could play it for months on end with higher settings without a single crash?
I do not want to overclock my GPU and unfortunately I do not remember which were the NVIDIA drivers I was using before I formatted my computer.
I thank you in advance, wise moderators of this forum and hope that you will be able to help me.
Have a wonderful day! 

Good day to you Svet!
Like I've wrote before, the only changes I did to my computer were the updates that came with Live Update 5. I only installed driver updates through that. I did it regularly ever since I've got my computer 7 months ago. Back in those 7 months the crash only happened once or twice.
Then a week ago I formatted my computer completely, reinstalled Windows 7 and also applied all of the available updates that came with Live Update 5. I've also downloaded the latest NVIDIA GPU drivers. The game worked flawlessly for the whole week until it started crashing yesterday.
Also I had no idea that the overheating could start at under 70°C, especially because I have two extra fans installed, one in the front and one in the back of my case so that there is regular flow of cold air, which enters in the front and exits at the back.

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    80, 04-06-2013 20:12:08, 101.000             ,99.000              ,100.000             ,0.000               ,441.160             ,882.321             ,2097.900            ,167.520             
    80, 04-06-2013 20:12:09, 101.000             ,99.000              ,100.000             ,0.000               ,441.160             ,882.321             ,2097.900            ,167.520             
    80, 04-06-2013 20:12:10, 101.000             ,99.000              ,100.000             ,0.000               ,441.160             ,882.321             ,2097.900            ,167.520             
    80, 04-06-2013 20:12:11, 84.000              ,0.000               ,100.000             ,0.000               ,882.321             ,1764.642            ,2097.900            ,78.598             
    80, 04-06-2013 20:12:12, 78.000              ,0.000               ,100.000             ,0.000               ,882.321             ,1764.642            ,2097.900            ,78.598             
    80, 04-06-2013 20:12:13, 74.000              ,0.000               ,100.000             ,0.000               ,882.321             ,1764.642            ,2097.900            ,78.598             
    80, 04-06-2013 20:12:14, 72.000              ,1.000               ,100.000             ,0.000               ,882.321             ,1764.642            ,2097.900            ,78.598             
    80, 04-06-2013 20:12:15, 70.000              ,0.000               ,100.000             ,0.000               ,882.321             ,1764.642            ,2097.900            ,78.598             
    80, 04-06-2013 20:12:16, 68.000              ,0.000               ,100.000             ,0.000               ,882.321             ,1764.642            ,2097.900            ,78.598             
    80, 04-06-2013 20:12:17, 66.000              ,0.000               ,100.000             ,0.000               ,882.321             ,1764.642            ,2097.900            ,78.031             
    80, 04-06-2013 20:12:18, 65.000              ,0.000               ,100.000             ,0.000               ,882.321             ,1764.642            ,2097.900            ,77.617             
    80, 04-06-2013 20:12:19, 61.000              ,0.000               ,100.000             ,0.000               ,405.000             ,810.000             ,324.000             ,77.617             
    80, 04-06-2013 20:12:20, 58.000              ,0.000               ,100.000             ,0.000               ,405.000             ,810.000             ,324.000             ,77.617             
    80, 04-06-2013 20:12:21, 55.000              ,0.000               ,100.000             ,0.000               ,405.000             ,810.000             ,324.000             ,77.617             
    80, 04-06-2013 20:12:22, 53.000              ,0.000               ,100.000             ,0.000               ,405.000             ,810.000             ,324.000             ,77.617             
    80, 04-06-2013 20:12:23, 52.000              ,0.000               ,100.000             ,0.000               ,405.000             ,810.000             ,324.000             ,77.617             
    80, 04-06-2013 20:12:24, 50.000              ,0.000               ,100.000             ,0.000               ,405.000             ,810.000             ,324.000             ,77.617             
    80, 04-06-2013 20:12:25, 49.000              ,0.000               ,100.000             ,0.000               ,405.000             ,810.000             ,324.000             ,77.617             
    80, 04-06-2013 20:12:26, 49.000              ,0.000               ,100.000             ,0.000               ,405.000             ,810.000             ,324.000             ,77.617             
    80, 04-06-2013 20:12:27, 47.000              ,0.000               ,100.000             ,0.000               ,50.625              ,101.250             ,135.000             ,77.617             
    80, 04-06-2013 20:12:28, 46.000              ,0.000               ,100.000             ,0.000               ,50.625              ,101.250             ,135.000             ,77.617             
    80, 04-06-2013 20:12:29, 46.000              ,0.000               ,100.000             ,0.000               ,50.625              ,101.250             ,135.000             ,77.617             
    80, 04-06-2013 20:12:30, 45.000              ,0.000               ,100.000             ,0.000               ,50.625              ,101.250             ,135.000             ,77.617             
    80, 04-06-2013 20:12:31, 44.000              ,0.000               ,100.000             ,0.000               ,50.625              ,101.250             ,135.000             ,77.617             
    80, 04-06-2013 20:12:32, 44.000              ,0.000               ,100.000             ,0.000               ,50.625              ,101.250             ,135.000             ,77.617             
    80, 04-06-2013 20:12:33, 43.000              ,0.000               ,100.000             ,0.000               ,50.625              ,101.250             ,135.000             ,77.617             
    80, 04-06-2013 20:12:34, 43.000              ,0.000               ,100.000             ,0.000               ,50.625              ,101.250             ,135.000             ,77.617             
    80, 04-06-2013 20:12:35, 42.000              ,0.000               ,100.000             ,0.000               ,50.625              ,101.250             ,135.000             ,77.617             
    80, 04-06-2013 20:12:36, 42.000              ,0.000               ,100.000             ,0.000               ,50.625              ,101.250             ,135.000             ,77.617             
    80, 04-06-2013 20:12:37, 42.000              ,0.000               ,100.000             ,0.000               ,50.625              ,101.250             ,135.000             ,77.617             
    80, 04-06-2013 20:12:38, 41.000              ,0.000               ,100.000             ,0.000               ,50.625              ,101.250             ,135.000             ,77.617             
    80, 04-06-2013 20:12:39, 41.000              ,0.000               ,100.000             ,0.000               ,50.625              ,101.250             ,135.000             ,77.617             
    80, 04-06-2013 20:12:40, 41.000              ,0.000               ,100.000             ,0.000               ,50.625              ,101.250             ,135.000             ,77.617             
    80, 04-06-2013 20:12:41, 40.000              ,0.000               ,100.000             ,0.000               ,50.625              ,101.250             ,135.000             ,77.617             
    80, 04-06-2013 20:12:42, 40.000              ,0.000               ,100.000             ,0.000               ,50.625              ,101.250             ,135.000             ,77.617             
    80, 04-06-2013 20:12:43, 40.000              ,0.000               ,100.000             ,0.000               ,50.625              ,101.250             ,135.000             ,77.617             
    80, 04-06-2013 20:12:44, 40.000              ,0.000               ,100.000             ,0.000               ,50.625              ,101.250             ,135.000             ,77.617             
    80, 04-06-2013 20:12:45, 40.000              ,3.000               ,100.000             ,0.000               ,50.625              ,101.250             ,135.000             ,77.617             
    80, 04-06-2013 20:12:46, 40.000              ,0.000               ,100.000             ,0.000               ,50.625              ,101.250             ,135.000             ,77.617             
    80, 04-06-2013 20:12:47, 40.000              ,0.000               ,100.000             ,0.000               ,50.625              ,101.250             ,135.000             ,77.617             
    80, 04-06-2013 20:12:48, 39.000              ,0.000               ,100.000             ,0.000               ,50.625              ,101.250             ,135.000             ,77.617             
    80, 04-06-2013 20:12:49, 39.000              ,0.000               ,100.000             ,0.000               ,50.625              ,101.250             ,135.000             ,77.617             
    80, 04-06-2013 20:12:50, 39.000              ,0.000               ,100.000             ,0.000               ,50.625              ,101.250             ,135.000             ,77.617             
    80, 04-06-2013 20:12:51, 39.000              ,1.000               ,100.000             ,0.000               ,50.625              ,101.250             ,135.000             ,77.617             
    80, 04-06-2013 20:12:52, 38.000              ,0.000               ,100.000             ,0.000               ,50.625              ,101.250             ,135.000             ,77.617             
    80, 04-06-2013 20:12:53, 38.000              ,0.000               ,100.000             ,0.000               ,50.625              ,101.250             ,135.000             ,77.617             
    80, 04-06-2013 20:12:54, 38.000              ,0.000               ,100.000             ,0.000               ,50.625              ,101.250             ,135.000             ,77.617             
    80, 04-06-2013 20:12:55, 38.000              ,0.000               ,100.000             ,0.000               ,50.625              ,101.250             ,135.000             ,77.617             
    80, 04-06-2013 20:12:56, 38.000              ,0.000               ,100.000             ,0.000               ,50.625              ,101.250             ,135.000             ,77.617             
    80, 04-06-2013 20:12:57, 38.000              ,0.000               ,100.000             ,0.000               ,50.625              ,101.250             ,135.000             ,77.617             
    80, 04-06-2013 20:12:58, 38.000              ,0.000               ,100.000             ,0.000               ,50.625              ,101.250             ,135.000             ,77.617             

  • Two displays for MSI R6950 Twin Frozr III Power Edition/OC graphics card ?

    Is it possible to have two displays simultaneously connected to this graphics card:
    http://www.msi.com/product/vga/R6950-Twin-Frozr-III-Power-Edition-OC.html#?div=Overview
    The card has two DVI-outputs "DVI Output: 2 (Single-Link DVI-D x1, Dual-Link DVI-I x1)".  I can use one display at a time and the second display only shows "No signal" error. I would like to use two displays when playing PC games, is it possible with this craphics card? Both my displays have VGA connector cables, and they are connected to the card with an VGA/DVI adapter.

    Quote from: Svet on 19-January-12, 22:12:52
    what monitors you are using and what resolutions you're trying to use?
    Both monitors are old models: 1) Panasonic PanaFlat PF90 2) acer AL 707.
    I'm not sure what resolution I was using on acer when I tried to connect both monitors, but now I'm using PanaFLat with 1280 x 1024. Maybe I should try to set them both on 1024 x 768 and try again.

  • MSI GTX580 Twin Froxr III power edition problems.

    Hello last night i kinda played around with afterburner and checking it with Kombustor, doing some testing in various benchmarks, at one point it said gpu throttling -3MHz
    The card never exceeded 63 degrees C no artifacts at all, so now when i push reset on afterburner it goes to stock settings only kombustor shows throttling -3MHz but at 803-841 on core and 2005-20025 memory it shows no such thing but sometimes oc doesn't seem to get me all that better results, well the highest i got in heaven is 1377 stock 1260 something.
    Can i have damaged the card even though it never was getting hot at all?
    I am  noob at OC but i know something about it and i know as long as i don't meddle with voltage  i can+t really burn the card and also i use 70+% fan speed on the card when oc´d/gaming
    have i really hurt the card?
    since combustor/furmark shows797/800, GPU-Z 800 core afterburner shows 800MHz core 2004 memory

    Quote from: flobelix on 03-August-12, 04:37:42
    797 to 800, yes. As far as I can see MSI says 800Mhz and not 810Mhz (http://www.msi.com/product/vga/N580GTX-TWIN-FROZR-III-15D5-POWER-EDITION-OC.html)
      Yep!
    Oh yes, almost no game is currently more stressing than BF3.
    so i see now that i looked at that link it shows 800 mybe i looked at another oc´d card adn got mixed up
    i also wonder ewhen i raise the clock to say 846 adn memory to 2036 i sometimes get lower rsults on heaven for example than if i just oc it to tiny little 810mhz core and keep memory at 2004 how come it goes that way?
    i also wonder there is a bios for my card on MSI website but i do not know if it is newer than the one on the card, it said something about stability
    and thank you now i can sleep alot better knowing it is ok :D

  • MSI GTX580 TWIN FROZR II

    Hi, I recently bought the GTX 580 Twin Frozr but has problems with the temperature. If I play  30 minutes a game, the temp get  98 C, I dare no longer play
    I'm using msi afterburner and max fanspeed to allow the other institutions
    core clock 800
    Shader Clock 1600
    Memory clock 2600
    My system is a Dell XPS 730 H2C
    PSU 1500 w
    Quad Processor 9600 3600 mhz
    8GB ram
    1500 GB hard disk
    windows 7 ultimate 64 bit
    before I had the GTX 480, which came to 75 to 80 C after a full day gaming

    if i put back the 480 GTX  in i get 75 c when i play crysis 2 . with the 580 GTX i get above 98 C in 30 min

  • Can't Update BIOS of my MSI GTX580 Twin Frozr 2 OC....!!!! Help ASAP....!!!!

    Hi guys from Greece....!!! I Have a major problem here and i need your help ASAP...!!!
        I've purchased and a computer technician installed on my PC a brand new MSI GTX580 TwinFrozr 2 OC...!!
    The problem is that my GTX580 has the old BIOS Version and i have to update it....!!! No matter how many times i tried to update it with Live update 5 it didn't work at all...!!! Live update 5 doesn't begin at all ..it always pops up an error message...!! Then i did a research in the forum and tried to update the BIOS with the Method of a USB stick Boot...... i did the exact things as needed but  i just can't update it at all....!!! Will MSI release another Version of Live Update that it will work.???? Is there another way to update to the latest BIOS under Win7 .???? I have Win7 32-bit version....!!! Please help me, i'm freaked out ...!! I paid almost 500 Euro for this Card...!!!
    Every advice/help will be welcomed....!!! Thanx for reading my topic...!!!
     

    Quote from: STAM on 30-April-11, 01:52:11
    I downloaded the rar that you attached , did what you told me to do ...i run GPU-Z and it shows that the BIOS version is the number 70.10.17.00.01 ,Is this the latest bios or is it the old one.????
    This number will remain the same.
    If you want to check current VBIOS version installed:
    Get this: https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=147603.0;attach=7931
    extract it somewhere, then run info1 , and look for the last line and tell what it is

  • MSI R6950 Twin Frozr III Power Edition – Replacement Heat Sink?

    Hello,
    Does anyone know of a good 3rd party heat sink that will definitely fit this non reference card? We all know that manufactures such has Artic, Thermalright and Prolimatech make such heat sinks, but of course they are for reference cards. I'm sure you can understand that I don't want to make any expensive mistakes!
    Thanks,
    Krutish.

    Thanks for the reply flobelix.
    My main concern was the amount of decibels this card produced when pushed, not its thermal properties. Under high stress the card would peak at 80-85c with a fan speed of anywhere around 80-100%. Normal gaming temps would be around 65c-75c depending on game, or gaming environment, with matching fan speeds. That is why I was looking for a replacement, the temps  were within the manufactures tolerances, even if a little high, but the db's were well outside of  mine!
    However, the situation as changed somewhat. While messing around inside the case trying to improve airflow I accidentally touched the heat-sink assembly, and upon doing so the fan instantly roared to 100% and the temps started to shoot up. I wiggled the assembly again and the fan and temps dropped back! So it seemed like the heat-sink was lose! I removed the card and tightened the screws a little, this solved the problem in regards to the temp/fan shooting up, but the temps were still high!
    The next step was to completely remove the heat-sink, give it a good clean and replace the thermal compound in the hope that this would solve the noise/heat problem. It was at this point that I spotted the problem! The GPU was absolutely caked in thermal compound, so much so that all of the resistors around the GPU were also covered in thermal grease, (Don't these guys know less is better?) good job they hadn't used a metal based thermal compound, that could have wrecked the card!
    Anyway, I removed the mess and used TIM-clean to dissolve what was left and finished the clean up with isopropanol. I applied a small amount of compound, replaced the heat-sink and Bobs your uncle! Max loads so far, GPU 64c – Fan speed 55%... That I can live with!
    So there you have it, this card as been noisy and running hot from the day I brought it, but I didn’t know any better, I've never seen or heard a MSI R6950 in action before, now I have!
    Made In China. (Sad Face)
    Krutish
    Oh almost forgot... i heard off Artic, they recommend the Twin Turbo II, Xtreme II or the Xtreme III for this card!

  • MSI 570GTX Twin Frozr III Power Edition

    How far am I able to safely push the voltages in afterburner?

    Quote from: Svet on 23-June-12, 04:50:05
    the one that you can able to set
    Yes Svet is right just like Guru3d says : unless you don't mod/unlock Afterburner then what Afterburner reads it is the safe voltage for your card.
    I used to have MSI GTX570 TFII OC and got stable daily 930/1100 with 1.075 Volt. Max was 970/1100 with 1.100 Volt only for benches not gaming
    Daily usage :
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