MSI k7n2 / pc2700 FSB problems

I can't for the life of me get my PC to post when I set the FSB to 166 in the bios. And suggestions on timings, voltages etc would help..
here are my specs
MSI k7n2
1gb PC2700
AMD 2400 TB

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Originally posted by Raven_
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Originally posted by Deathstalker
I would say with a 2400+ raising the FSB to 166 means you are running the 2400+ which is supposed to be at 2ghz at 2.5Ghz, which is a serious overclock!
i raised the fsb on my xp2400 to 166
and i lowered the multiplier to 12 and it worked right away without problem.
wire tricked it.
yea but 166x15=2490!!!

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Originally posted by Roger Wilco
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MSI K7N2 DELTA -L (601-6570-020) nFORCE 2 DUAL 400 , RANDOM RESTART PROBLEM (WinXP,Win98)

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*** STOP: 0x0000000A (0x00000004, 0x00000002, 0x00000001, 0x804F1473)
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C:\WINDOWS\Minidump\Mini042202-01.dmp
C:\DOCUME~1\DANIEL~1\LOCALS~1\Temp\WER3.tmp.dir00\sysdata.xml
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Event Type: Error
Event Source: System Error
Event Category: (102)
Event ID: 1003
Date: 22/04/2002
Time: 5:55:03 PM
User: N/A
Computer: XXX-BOX
Description:
Error code 0000000a, parameter1 00000004, parameter2 00000002, parameter3 00000000, parameter4 804f1ada.
For more information, see Help and Support Center at http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp.
Data:
0000: 53 79 73 74 65 6d 20 45 System E
0008: 72 72 6f 72 20 20 45 72 rror Er
0010: 72 6f 72 20 63 6f 64 65 ror code
0018: 20 30 30 30 30 30 30 30 0000000
0020: 61 20 20 50 61 72 61 6d a Param
0028: 65 74 65 72 73 20 30 30 eters 00
0030: 30 30 30 30 30 34 2c 20 000004,
0038: 30 30 30 30 30 30 30 32 00000002
0040: 2c 20 30 30 30 30 30 30 , 000000
0048: 30 30 2c 20 38 30 34 66 00, 804f
0050: 31 61 64 61 1ada
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Quote from: DaveR on 28-October-05, 01:38:08
Just to confirm; they are fine together in single channel, slot 1 and slot 2? Dual channel is purple + green slot, i.e slot 1 and 3 or 2 and 3. Or are you saying they can't work together in any combination of slots?
there will be a label on side of your psu stating max amps to +3.3V, +5v and +12v rails, i.e +3.3v = ?A, +5v = ?A, +12v = ?A. For example my psu is: Antec TrueBlue480: 30A/3.3V, 38A/5V, 28A/12V
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You did load the chipset and graphics drivers didn't you?
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+5v 40a Red, +12V1 16A yellow, +3.3v 35A orange, +12v2 18a yellow/black, -5v 0.5a white, -12v 0.5a blue, +5vsb 2.5a purple, pg gray.
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GeiL 1x512MB, PC3200, DDR400
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