MSI K8N 2 NEO Platinum with AMD 4200+ X2 Machine Check Exception

Greetings,
I recently bought a 4200+ x2 and when i replaced my Venice 3500+ by it i get a Machine Check Exception when windows xp Professionnel is about to load. But when i go back to my Venice everything working properly. any ideas what could cause such a trouble?
my PSU is a ANTEC 550W, i don't think i'm in need of any more power and more i got it recently, so it's almost new and never got problem with it before.
thanks.

I think that you have to cleanly reinstall your Windows XP Pro operating system for it to recognize consistently dual core cpu. What bios do you use? Does CPU-Z say that you have one processor or two in Processor Selection at bottom of CPU Tab? Good luck.

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