MSI K8N Call of Duty

Is anyone else experiencing screen freezes for 4 secs at a time on Call of Duty.  It's like lagging out, you appear in a new position when screen unfreezes, however unlike lagging out the screen does not change at all during freeze!
Anyone got any ideas?
Corsair TWINX1024-3200XL Twinx (CAS2) 2x512MB (TWINX1024-32) Version Platinum
AMD Athlon 64 3200 skt 754 (retail boxed)
MSI K8N Neo Platinum (K8N Neo Plat)
Radeon 9500@9700
Audigy 2
Trend Antivirus 7.100/1.909.00
Windowblinds
Thanks,
Fairy
PS- I have the temp problem too!  UT2004 and farcry are ok.

I have the exact same issue. Take a look at this. It's taken from the PunkBuster website.
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My computer locks up or "chugs" sometimes while I'm playing with PunkBuster Enabled, what can cause this?
PunkBuster "pushes" hardware and the Windows Operating System more than most software and uses functions in the Windows API (low level functions) that aren't used by most other programs. As such, there are a few cases where using PB can actually expose flaky hardware or other situations that don't cause problems for other software. Here are a few things that have helped other users make these problems get better or go away completely:
Make sure you are using the latest version of PunkBuster (the latest version is always on our Download page) - also this link may help manually update your PB to the latest version when necessary
From the game's main screen, press the tilde key (the ~ key) to bring down the console and enter the following line (without the quotes): "/pb_system 1".
Never close other programs from your Windows Task Manager before playing the game, either leave them running or close them through the proper interface - killing a process doesn't always work completely even if it stops showing in the Task Manager and renegade threads seem to conflict with PB more than other programs that may be running in memory. There is a free utility that some players use called EndItAll to close all extra programs before they play to avoid software conflicts, crashes and lockups. You can get it from here.
Check the add/remove programs list in your Control Panel and uninstall any programs that you don't use or that you don't know what they are.
One program that seems to conflict with PB more than others is Norton Anti-Virus. If you have it installed, try uninstalling it to see if the lockups go away. Some players have reported that when this is the culprit, they can reinstall Norton Anti-Virus and the lockups don't come back.
Other background programs that seem to conflict with PB for some users are Sound Blaster Live software and helper programs that come with video cards (especially ATI keyboard shortcut programs).
Some players discovered that they had a computer virus and that the lockups vanished after it was fully removed.
Experiment with the pb_sleep setting ... try setting it to 20, 250, or 500 to see if that affects your game performance. A few players have reported that all the problems go away when they "tweak" this setting.
In extreme cases, a few users have reported that replacing their RAM (memory) or video/sound cards fixed the problem.
I'm just about to try reinstalling NAV and see if it helps. As for the other stuff - it suggests a few things, but doesn't explain what they adjust or why it would help.  

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    Quote from: syar2003 on 09-January-06, 23:22:40
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    Quote from: nanohead on 15-February-06, 01:17:10
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    Quote from: nanohead on 15-February-06, 01:17:10
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    wanna tell me how did you get 1.95V on that mobo?
    Quote from: nanohead on 15-February-06, 01:17:10
    I've been able to get the CPU up to 2.4Ghz, with a .5 volt bump to the CPU and 2.9 volts into the Geil memory.  So far, so stable, no smoke coming out yet 
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    Quote
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