MSI K8N Diamond big problem

cpu: venice 3500+ and newcastle 3500+
ram: 2x256 kingston HX ddr500 (3.4.4.8) and 2x512 twister ddr533 (3.4.4.8)
2xmsi 6800 gt pcie
first problem: mainboard dont' accept any manual setting fron ram timings (i try with all bios version)
second problem: bios can't reed correctly spd from ram (reed 2.5.4.2.8)
third problem: maximal cpuoverclocking +5mhz, over +5mhz the system don't boot
problem n° four: if i try to make a manual ram settings, the bios go automatic back to ram speed 120mhz
problem n° five:  i don't find any solution
to much problem for a mainbord with this prices.
msi pls make a korrekt bios, at the moment i have only problem with test from this board
thank's
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If you are mixing 2*512MB twinmos twister with WLCSP chips with 2*256MB kingston hynix based TSOP chips
i don't think it's strange that you have those experiences .
Or is it twisters with tsop dimm packages (twister-pro) .
I under the impression that twister with wlcsp isn't the best compability for the A64's memory controller , they seem to work best at P4 setups .
Try with only one type of modules .
It's hard for the motherboard to set timings by spd if the modules are all of different programmed spd proms .
Remember that 3.4.4.8 is spd data for DDR533 operation for one pair and 3.4.4.8 for 500DDR operation for the other pair.
What (if they have any) are the spd data they have for DDR400 (it's the 200mhz/DDR400 spd data the motherboard shall read).

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  • MSI K8N Diamond - Boot problems with USB devices attached.

    Hi There.
    I have been seeking the forums, but havent found the answer to my problem yet. 
    This is how it goes with ANY USB devices attached to either of the four USB ports on the Motherboard.
    When i turn on my system, it hangs in the POST right after displaying the BIOS version (Which I have updated to 1.6) - I cant use my Keyboard to get to the BIOS setup.
    Without USB devices attached...
    The system boots without problems. And in Windows XP SP2 i can insert my keyboard, mouse etc. and everything works great - both USB 1.1 & 2.0 devices.
    I have disabled the KB/USB.. in BIOS and I have disabled the "Boot on other device" option as well.
    As I have found on this forum, a lot of people have problems with USB Front panel and D-Bracket (USB ports) connectors causing the system to hang - But my D-Bracket (USB connectors) and my front USB port is at this time DISCONNECTED - so this cannot be the problem.
    The D-Bracket shows the "Bios Sign On" information - and stops at that point 
    Am I having a malfunctioning Motherboard here, or are there any solutions to this problem?
    Please help me as I am desperate to have my system work properly.
    Regards
    Stieper

    Well I have read about that somewhere in here, but my problem is NOT with an USB hub, but with any USB device attached to the motherboard's USB slots. It is driving me nuts to be honest!! I think it might be time for RMA 
    What do you say guys - is my Motherboard ready for RMA, or do I have to try something specific berfore sending it to the retailer??

  • Msi K8n Diamond IDE problems

    Hi,
    Can anyone help me with this problem? I brought this motherboard last July had problems with when i firts set up. And its always the same problem. When i burn a dvd or cd i get to 60% and the computers rest. Last year i just rebuild my xp with old drivers. This year, i forget and i download the lastest one and got the problem back. I belive its some thing to do with the creative labs drivers and the nvidia force drivers notl liking each other. I have update the asipi lvl and done all the microsfot updates. I just cant burn a dvd or cd without it restarting. The rest the computers works great. I have no problems with it. Can anyone please share what they did if they had the problem? Thx for your help.

    Hello !!
    Did you install the Nvidia IDE SW Driver ? Deinstall it, use the ones that are provided by microsoft.
    To do so open software properties, select nforce drivers and deinstall the nvidia ide driver, but only this one !
    After restart the M$ drivers will be installed.
    Greetz   

  • MSI K8N Diamond - Front Audio Header Mic problem

    Hello,
    I'm Alex Dias Teixeira from the netherlands
    About 3 months ago I assembled my own computer, but yesterday is tried to install my Fronpanel that is on my case. Not without problem.
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    Mainboard:   MSI K8N Diamond                                     Manual page 34
    Case:           Thermaltake Soprano VB1000BWS             Manual
    Mainboard                                                                                                       Case
    PIN   SIGNAL                DESCRIPTION                                                                PIN
    1      AUD_MIC             Front panel microphone input signal  -----------------------  MIC_In
    2      AUD_GND            Ground used by analog audio circuits ------------------------ Ground
    3      AUD_MIC_BIAS    Microphone power --------------------------------------------- MIC_VCC
    4      AUD_VCC            Filtered +5V used by analog audio circuits
    5      AUD_FPOUT_R    Right channel audio signal to front panel --------------------- EAR_R
    6      AUD_RET_R        Right channel audio signal return from front panel ---------- Return_R
    7      HP_ON               Reserved for future use to control headphone amplifier
    8      KEY                    No pin
    9      AUD_FPOUT_L     Left channel audio signal to front panel ----------------------- EAR_L
    10    AUD_RET_L         Left channel audio signal return from front panel ------------ Return_L
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    Thanks in advance
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    Check the manual, but if you use the microphone plug-in in the back on the motherboard, you might disable microphone input
    to the front case header panel.  I believe if you use the microphone in the back, it disables microphone input from the front.  Also be sure to check the multimedia/sound settings near the clock to make sure you don't have anything muted in advanced tabs found.

  • MSI K8N Diamond hangs on startup

    Without having changed anything (neither hardware nor software), the computer now hangs on every bootup.
    It only get to the MSI Diamond logo screen (with Graphic memory passed and memory check stated in the background)
    I cant even press DEL to enter BIOS menu or F11 to enter startup menu.
    The computer has worked like a charm for 6 months since I installed it, so this current problem is really strange.
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    MSI K8N Diamond (Award Bios)
    XFX GeForce 6800 Ultra
    2048MB PC3500 RAM
    250GB SATA Hitachi Deskstar T7K250 7200RPM (Master boot)
    250GB ATA Seagate Barracuda 7200RPM
    Creative Soundblaster XFI Fatal1ty FPS
    Logitech MX510
    Logitech UltraX Flat Keyboard

    My PSU is a Hiper Type-R 480W (sufficient for my usage at least)
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    M-Audio Oxygen-8 (Midi keyboard)
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    DXDiag;
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    Time of this report: 3/6/2006, 14:57:44
           Machine name: SYNTHETI-7C3D19
       Operating System: Windows XP Professional (5.1, Build 2600) Service Pack 2 (2600.xpsp_sp2_gdr.050301-1519)
               Language: Swedish (Regional Setting: Swedish)
    System Manufacturer: MICRO-STAR INTERNATIONAL CO., LTD
           System Model: MS-7100
                   BIOS: Phoenix - AwardBIOS v6.00PG
              Processor: AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3500+,  MMX,  3DNow, ~2.2GHz
                 Memory: 2048MB RAM
              Page File: 295MB used, 2621MB available
            Windows Dir: C:\WINDOWS
        DirectX Version: DirectX 9.0c (4.09.0000.0904)
    DX Setup Parameters: Not found
         DxDiag Version: 5.03.2600.2180 32bit Unicode
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      DirectX Files Tab: No problems found.
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            Network Tab: No problems found.
    Disk & DVD/CD-ROM Drives
          Drive: C:
     Free Space: 130.5 GB
    Total Space: 238.5 GB
    File System: NTFS
          Model: HDS722525VLSA80
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     Free Space: 25.3 GB
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    File System: NTFS
          Model: ST3250823A
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          Model: SONY DVD-ROM DDU1613
         Driver: c:\windows\system32\drivers\cdrom.sys, 5.01.2600.2180 (Swedish), 8/3/2004 20:59:54, 49536 bytes
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          Model: _NEC DVD_RW ND-3520A
         Driver: c:\windows\system32\drivers\cdrom.sys, 5.01.2600.2180 (Swedish), 8/3/2004 20:59:54, 49536 bytes
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          Model: Generic DVD-ROM SCSI CdRom Device
         Driver: c:\windows\system32\drivers\cdrom.sys, 5.01.2600.2180 (Swedish), 8/3/2004 20:59:54, 49536 bytes

  • No signal - MSI K8N Diamond

    Hello, I have a K8N Diamond motherboard which I've had for about 4 months. I tried to set it up a while ago but I remember it not working, anyway I tried again this morning but I'm getting the same problem. After I install everything and start up the PC I get a "no signal" on my monitor. The fans start up, and all the led's come on but nothing else seems to be happening. There is no problem with the graphics card, soundcard, hard drive, ram, power supply or any of the cd drives as I am using them all now on a different pc. I am thinking it is either the cpu which is also 4 months old, bought at the same time as the motherboard, or a fault with the actual motherboard?
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    Bestec 250 watt Power Supply
    Seagate Barracuda 7200.7 160 GB Harddrive
    AMD 64 Athlon 3500 Socket 939 2.2 GHZ Processor
    1536 MB Ram
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    Quote from: Stick on 09-March-06, 16:24:27
    dude, 250W power supply? i think this is the lowest one i've seen on the forum. no wonder your rig is not powering up. go get yourself a good PSU, something with more than 25A on the 12V rail. the Tagan 480 looks like a favorite amongst the users.
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  • MSI K8N Diamond not booting

    I have a slight problem with MSI K8N Diamond. It is not booting and according to the manual d-bracket says memory error.
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    CPU: AMD Athlon64 3000+ Winchester (socket 939)
    Memory: 2x Corsair ValueSelect 512M
    Graphics card: PNY GeForce 6600GT 128M
    Hard disk: Western Digital Caviar 200GB IDE
    Power supply: Antec SmartPower 350W
    PSU's Max DC Outputs:
    +5V: 35A
    +12V: 21A
    +3.3V: 28A
    -5V: 0.5A
    -12V: 0.8A
    +5VSB: 2.0A
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    Quote from: The_Oak on 17-August-05, 02:16:26
    ... or my processor's pci-express is broken....
    You probably mean Hyper-Transport....
    As for the PSU, you can try with the PSU of your friend to test the MOBO.
    But do the following, take the MOBO out of the case and test it outside on top of a pile of newspapers, then put in the CPU+HSF, memory 1 stick in slot 1, gfx, and your friend's PSU, press the CMOS reset button, connect the AC plug to the PSU and start it. Test it like this...and post back with results...
    Be well....

  • MSI K8N Diamond + AMD 4800X2, stock bios version

    Greetings ppl
    Does anyone know if the MSI K8N Diamond SLI mobo comes with an updated bios version in order to support amd x2 cpus? I'm ordering one in the next days
    And on another matter, will two Corsair XMS 1G DDR400 (latency:3-3-3-8) work with this mobo?
    Thnx in advance

    Quote from: knusite on 23-September-05, 14:36:46
    It did not come with compability in my case, I bought my MB in Norway. I assembled everything and booted up. The POST screen told me that I had an Athlon processor but the model number was unknown. However I was able to flash my BIOS using a Win98 boot disk and the latest BIOS from MSI (just follow the instructions included in the BIOS release). Notice that I did the flashing before installing anything on the computer.
    In short you should have no problems flashing the BIOS, and thus making the MB recognize the Athlon 64 X2 CPU.
    The only way is to updates the latest BIOS 1.9 in order to make it recognised for your mobo.
    Quote from: grissom on 23-September-05, 10:33:48
    Greetings ppl
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    And on another matter, will two Corsair XMS 1G DDR400 (latency:3-3-3-8) work with this mobo?
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    It's depends actually cos sometimes the BIOS is old type and if you're lucky you'll get the new version of the BIOS. That RAM's it works for the mobo. So good luck.  

  • MSI K8N Diamond - SLI-switchcard plastic piece broken

    Hi.
    I have MSI K8N Diamond that has SLI-switchcard. It is being held down with that nasty plastic piece. Now I can't make the plastic piece hold any longer. As soon as I let my finger off switchcard, that plastic piece pops out. Is there any better solution to hold down the card?

    Quote from: dondon on 13-May-05, 04:47:01
    Running it right now with no switch card and/or bridge... same result... apci post report doesnt report the second card?
    I know the card is good as I have switched it to pcie1... does this mean the 2nd x16 slot is bad?
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    -don
    Contacted Technical support they report the 2nd pcie slot is bad, this dang thing isnt two weeks old :!
    -----Original Message-----
    From: Dons Desk
    Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2005 6:25 PM
    To: '[email protected]'
    Subject: RE: 3 -- Customer Problem Description Form
    Well..
    I have the sli bridge on the board in sli mode... and only a card in pcie slot two...
    I get what seems to be 1 long and 3 short beeps... no video..
    Does this indicate pcie slot 2 bad, if so what do I do to return this board... its less than a two weeks old.
    -don
    -----Original Message-----
    From: MSI Technical Support Team USA
    Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2005 6:16 PM
    To: 'Dons Desk'
    Subject: RE: 3 -- Customer Problem Description Form
    Dear Customer,
    Please have the SLI Bridge set for SLI Mode enable and retest with only the 1 video card into slot #2.
    If this works then it indicate the PCI-E slot is fine and the SLI Bridges are the cause.
    If it did not work at all then the PCI-E slot #2 has problem which the mb needs to be serviced:
    http://www.msicomputer.com/support/CustomerS.asp
    Sincerely,                                         
    Technical Support Division
    MSI Computer Corp.
    http://www.msicomputer.com

  • K8N Diamond Memory Problem

    Hi Everbody,
    I have a computer with these configurations;
    but I have a problem. I'm installed four 1Gb DDR 400 Kingston (KHX3200K2/2G). But my computer show 3.4 Gb memory on the bios and 3328 Mb on the windows. What is problem? Where is it problem? Can you help me?. Thanks....
    Computer:
          Computer Type                                     ACPI x64 Computer
          Operating System                                  Microsoft Windows Vista Ultimate
          OS Service Pack                                   Service Pack 1
          Internet Explorer                                   7.0.6001.18000
          DirectX                                               DirectX 10.0
          Computer Name                                    TUGAY-PC
          User Name                                          Tugay
          Logon Domain                                      Tugay-PC
          Date / Time                                        2008-10-13 / 23:31
        Motherboard:
          CPU Type                                          DualCore AMD Opteron 170, 2000 MHz (10 x 200)
          Motherboard Name                                  MSI K8N Diamond (MS-7100)  (3 PCI, 2 PCI-E x16, 4 DDR DIMM, Audio, Dual Gigabit LAN, IEEE-1394)
          Motherboard Chipset                               nVIDIA nForce4 SLI, AMD Hammer
          System Memory                                     3328 MB  (PC3200 DDR SDRAM)
          DIMM1: Kingston K                                 1 GB PC3200 DDR SDRAM  (3.0-3-3-8 @ 200 MHz)  (2.5-3-3-7 @ 166 MHz)  (2.0-2-2-6 @ 133 MHz)
          DIMM2: Kingston K                                 1 GB PC3200 DDR SDRAM  (3.0-3-3-8 @ 200 MHz)  (2.5-3-3-7 @ 166 MHz)  (2.0-2-2-6 @ 133 MHz)
          DIMM3: Kingston K                                 1 GB PC3200 DDR SDRAM  (3.0-3-3-8 @ 200 MHz)  (2.5-3-3-7 @ 166 MHz)  (2.0-2-2-6 @ 133 MHz)
          DIMM4: Kingston K                                 1 GB PC3200 DDR SDRAM  (3.0-3-3-8 @ 200 MHz)  (2.5-3-3-7 @ 166 MHz)  (2.0-2-2-6 @ 133 MHz)      BIOS Type                                         Award (02/28/07)
        Display:
          Video Adapter                                     NVIDIA GeForce 7300 GS  (256 MB)
          Video Adapter                                     NVIDIA GeForce 7300 GS  (256 MB)
          3D Accelerator                                    nVIDIA GeForce 7300 GS
          Monitor                                           Samsung SyncMaster 199BW/940BW/MagicSyncMaster CX915BW (Analog)  [19" LCD]  (HVEL957143)
          Monitor                                           Samsung SyncMaster 199BW/940BW/MagicSyncMaster CX915BW (Digital)  [19" LCD]  (HVEL957143)
        Multimedia:
            Audio Adapter                                     Creative SB Live! 24-bit (CA0106) Integrated Audio Processor on MSI motherboard
       

    Look for "S/W memory hole Remapping" in BIOS and Enable it in "DRAM Configuration" in "Cell Menu"

  • MSI K8N Diamond

    I would like to know if the motherboard MSI K8N Diamond suport processors x2, whatever, dual core processors... I must buy it if does support dual core, am i doing a nice shop? Thanks...

    Quote from: Bannik on 12-August-05, 13:23:43
    Will the K8N Diamond support an AMD Athlon 64 3000+ Venice CPU? Without a BIOS flash?
    Also
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    You see, i'm purchasing an AMD 64 3000+ Venice CPU off a friend of mine soon, which i will then use in the K8N Diamond, then i will hopefully flash the BIOS and put in an AMD Athlon 64 4000+ San Diego if i need to flash it that is, if it supports the 4000+ CPU without a BIOS flash, that would be great.
    It depends on what BIOS version is currently installed. Though the Venice will start up your sytem, maybe Cool and Quiet and Voltage/Frequency settings won't work. My board had the first, 1.0 BIOS on when I set it up with a Venice 3200+ CPU. Then flashed to the latest BIOS and changed the CPU to the X2 4200+.
    Flashing BIOS is safe even under a stable Windows, you just pray for no electricity shortage. I flash it always under Windows, though I have a 1000 VA APC UPS.

  • Which PSU for MSI K8N Diamond Plus?

    I am so frustrated ... I have spent over 6 hours trying to find out which power supplies I can use with the MSI K8N Diamond Plus.
    I am not able to find any PSU that has 24 pin, 8 pin and 4 pin power connectors ... do you have to get them custom made or something? I am in Switzerland and it is hard to track these things down if you do not speak the language.
    This is the page which I am using to try and find a compatible PSU:
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    Can anybody recommend a PSU that is compatible with this board? Please.

    Quote from: russellmrgn on 27-March-06, 20:51:26
    Off topic.
    Kenito443,
    I see you have the Stacker830, was looking at that case myself. How do you find it performance / quality wise?
    Russell
    Yeah i love it...the cooling is amazing, my case never goes above 30C and the cpu idles at 22c and never goes over 27C even when OC'd,.. granted i have substantial cooling for the cpu.  the case is completely tool less and boasts a up to 9 12cm fans...the case is double encased  Al so with a silent PSU (true 500W), which is my set up , it is extremely quiet. i was going to get the lian li until i saw both of them on display. the lian li seemed a little harder to set up for water cooling -if i wanted that option in the future, and the tool less feature for the cm stacker was a lot more appealing. Interestingly, it has its own proprietary hard drive noise reduction and cooling doohickey. Also, the mb has this cool pull out tray plus the PSU rail is really easy to accomadate for a larger  PSU. the store where i bought it from in santa clara CA threw in some of these nice dust filters with the case and I was sold. the only con was the price, i paid  around $230, which is a little expensive for a CM....oh and a word of warning , the case doesnt really look that big in pictures, but it is HUGE !! it has 10 5.25-inch bays..you can fit every single imaginable peripheral and still have room to fit your kitchen sink..i was definitely surprised to see how big it was in person.

  • When will MSI K8N Diamond Plus hit the street

    I need this card badly and A.S.A.P as I've managed to fry my 875P Neo-FISR (PCB 2.0)
    The press center section where this product is posted  does not say.
    Release the Power of X16 MSI K8N Diamond Plus Sallying

    Quote from: fafner on 17-November-05, 22:51:34
    Skippy, I hope you are right.  Please send me a PM if u find it is available at newegg.....I want to get one as soon as they are available.  Thanks.
    OK... will do.
    I'd think that it will appear really soon though for 1 really big reason -
    Screwing up & missing out on any of the holiday shopping season would be like shooting themselves in the "financial foot". Especially when they have a competitor that currently has that particular market to themselves with a hot product. Can't let that happen.
    That's just "Marketing 101"... and my "fearless prediction", for whatever that's worth LOL!

  • 4 year old MSI K8N Diamond Plus [MS-7220], best upgrade CPU

    I built this system about 3 1/2 years ago. It has AMD 64 4000 San Diego. It still runs respectable, especially with new Radion 4850. My question is, what is the fastest CPU I can upgrade to, and is it  worth while? Is the dual core a better choice than the single. Thanks for any advice.
    MSI K8N Diamond Plus [MS-7220] AMD 64 4000 San Diego
    2 GB DDR 400, Radeon 4850 1 GB
    WD 320 GB SATA, Lite on 24x DVD

    Quote from: Henry on 11-March-10, 12:41:52
    It is to laugh Ha, Ha, I just sold an X2 4200+ on eBay Friday and it fetched $56 USD. That's only $20 less than I paid for it 2 or 3 years ago.
    I've got an opteron 185 that I'll trade for a Big Bang Fuzion...

  • MSI K8N Diamond Plus - Guide to my first week

    OK, not a newb here, but been around the block quite a bit.   MSI K8N Diamond Plus is my 5th A64 mobo (ECS K8M800, my daily undestroyed computer, K8T800, my 12 year olds gamer, Asus A8V Deluxe, first 939 system, Abit AN8 SLI, first SLI gamer, and now the MSI Diamond Plus).   Had the KDP (K8N Diamond Plus) for more than a week now, and here's what I've learned.
    This is state of the art again, and we have no one to blame but ourselves for the pain this causes us when we upgrade like lunatics 
    And as usual, the drivers and BIOS are al Dente (i.e. not cooked enought yet, a little raw)
    MSI is also oddly silent on this system, which is wierd, as they are a large company, and specifically cater to enthusiasts.  But their BIOS guys are MIA.  Hopefully this will not be forever.  Asus, ABIT, DFI, Epox are always fast with fixes
    The board is a nice design, with everything basically accessible, as much as any other board.   Lots of purposeful components, not too many dumb frills.  No tooty fruity colors, but rather practical parts.
    The new 2 piece NForce chipset is fine, and the MSI guys gave us a decent, but funky cooler.  It gets a little warm to the touch when you pound on it with Prime95, or Quake4, but other than that it is fine
    The manual has a zillion typos, and fortunately for us in this forum, we have shared what we've learned.  The translation from Chinese to English leaves quite a bit to be desired, and hopefully, MSI will learn from Asus and Abit and get a better translation service.  In 2006 this is just plain stupid, especially with a $225 board   
    As usual, the mobo supplied tweaker utilities are just aweful.  They look like a hallucination from a Hunter S Thompson book, and they work about as well.  Core center is a sad state of affairs, and the rest of them just burrow their way into your otherwise stable system and cause it to have poor behavior.  And therefore as usual, the BIOS is the best way, if slowest, to tweak this bundle of parts
    Which brings us to the BIOS.  IMHO, the worst one I've seen on a high end board.  ZERO explanation for half the settings (this is not strange in and of itself, BIOS is still a black art, but in a tweakers board, we should have some basic explanation  )
    There seem to be adequate settings in the BIOS for all sorts of doodads and gizmos, but who the heck knows what half of them are.  Roger points out rightfully, that we now need to "Tune" across all these different intermediary bus structures and test.  But with the lack of info from either NVidia, MSI or anyone else for that matter, its kinda hard to know where to start.
    The board is clearly sensitive, which is a result of it being high strung.  This is no different than any "first out" product I've ever bought.  Most take 2 or 3 turns of the crank to get totally stable and forgiving.  This one hated my OCZ platinum EL 2Gb kit memory, and it brought out the worst in one of the SLI based EVGA 7800 GT COs.   These components worked in the Abit AN8 SLI (although not always great), but the MSI has ZERO tolerance for even the slightest pertubation from the memory.  It was BSOD city until I removed both of these components by process of elimination that took probably 100 hours
    Once I removed the bad components, and replaced the memory with Geil Ultra X 2x512 2-2-2-5, it worked great, ran Prime95 for 10 hours with no errors, and seems reasonably stable.  I've RMA-d the bad 7800GT CO back to EVGA, and will report back on how SLI behaves when I get the new one (cross shipped of course, I haveno patience )
    I also now need to replace the 2Gb RAM kit with something that the board will tolerate.  I may RMA the 2Gb kit back to OCZ and try another one, but I dunno.   I love OCZ but I have a bad feeling about this, even though they have great!!! support.  I may try OCZ PC4000 or the RAM that Roger successfully used.
    I did upgrade to the 1.16 BIOS, and found that some new things were added, as well as voltage control in Cell was a little better, but registration of changes in voltage is still a disaster.   I adjusted a bunch of times, it didn't register, and I ended up smoking a new A64 3700+ Diego with 1.95 volts, even though the BIOS claimed it was 1.53.  I had to rebot to see what was going on.   The Thermalright XP-90 kept the proc from melting down through the earth
    Finally, I hope this board attracts more people, and therefore more tweakers that can figure out all these gadgets and settings.  Everyone flocked to the Asus X16 SLI product, which is too bad, as this one needs lots o' folks to hack it up for us to figure out what is going on.
    The on board Creative audio sounds lousy to my ears, and I will replace it with an Audigy 2ZS gamer that I had in the Abit.  It just sounds better, but hopefully the drivers will not trash my newly stable system.   Creative scares me, they scare me alot.
    I've been able to get the CPU up to 2.4Ghz, with a .5 volt bump to the CPU and 2.9 volts into the Geil memory.  So far, so stable, no smoke coming out yet 
    I hope this info is somewhat valuable to someone on this board.  I will post details of all changes that I make, as others are doing, so we can at least take care of ourselves with this thing.

    Quote from: nanohead on 15-February-06, 01:17:10
    Which brings us to the BIOS.  IMHO, the worst one I've seen on a high end board.  ZERO explanation for half the settings (this is not strange in and of itself, BIOS is still a black art, but in a tweakers board, we should have some basic explanation  )
    There seem to be adequate settings in the BIOS for all sorts of doodads and gizmos, but who the heck knows what half of them are.  Roger points out rightfully, that we now need to "Tune" across all these different intermediary bus structures and test.  But with the lack of info from either NVidia, MSI or anyone else for that matter, its kinda hard to know where to start.
    first of all, i do think that all the settings in the BIOS have an explanation in the manual, even if it's a basic one. if that explanation doesn't tell you everything in detail, is because if you do need a detailed explanation of the settings, you probably shouldn't be messing around with those settings.
    Quote from: nanohead on 15-February-06, 01:17:10
    I did upgrade to the 1.16 BIOS, and found that some new things were added, as well as voltage control in Cell was a little better, but registration of changes in voltage is still a disaster.   I adjusted a bunch of times, it didn't register, and I ended up smoking a new A64 3700+ Diego with 1.95 volts, even though the BIOS claimed it was 1.53.  I had to rebot to see what was going on.   The Thermalright XP-90 kept the proc from melting down through the earth.
    wanna tell me how did you get 1.95V on that mobo?
    Quote from: nanohead on 15-February-06, 01:17:10
    I've been able to get the CPU up to 2.4Ghz, with a .5 volt bump to the CPU and 2.9 volts into the Geil memory.  So far, so stable, no smoke coming out yet 
    a 0.5V  bump? again, you must be joking. maybe 0.05V.

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