Msi k8n neo 2 help please

hi everyone
just a query hope someone can help, i have a k8n neo 2 with a amd 3.5 chip, i just benchmarked my system to see what it was running like and my results were not what i expected, my cpu was just over 8000 can this really be right i gathered it would be over 10000.
maybe i,m wrong but could someone please tell me what the average reading would be for a motherboard and 3.5 chip.
thanks
my specs
msi k8n neo 2
athlon 64 3.5 cpu
ati radeon 9800 pro
2x 512 ddr 3200 crucial ram
400 watt psu

You were being asked a question in a funny way instead of slamming you directly. As you don't care to answer the question on what you were benchmarking with and the simple fact that there are hundreds of proggies that can be used in benchmmarking we can't answer you as it stands. However since you have taken an attitude about this rather than take a bit of ribbing and giving an answer as well as shouting by the use of all caps... You now have a warning and the thread is closed.
I strongly suggest you read the forum rules as they will explain about things like giving complete info on a post so you can actually receive an answer and not PO'ing off people that could otherwise give you an answer. There is a whole section in the rules discussing curtesy.

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1. After the PC POSTs and before the WinXP loading screen, there is a long delay (about 25-30 seconds) where the PC does nothing. No hard disk activity or anything, just sits there on a blank screen. Can anyone help with as to what might be causing this problem?
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CBROM don't know
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Flashing bios with memory errors is a veeeeery bad idea .
Almost guarantied to ruin your bios chip with bad data block.
That this even is suggested with mem errors , well .
You need to resolve the mem errors before doing anything else.
The windows xp install routine is a very heavy user of cpu and memory
and will fail if you have mem errors like you have.
Some things to try is entering bios and change auto settings on cpu voltage
giving it 0.5v more than default .
Set the memorys voltage to vendors max approved voltage
which for yours is 2.6v +/- 0.1v . So it's safe to set at 2.7v .
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Pushing it firmly down in the dimm socket , sometimes it's not all the way down there even if the plastic lockers snap in.
Disconnect all devices not needed for a windows install ,things can be added later.
Have only the hd that os is to be installed to , one cdrom , floppy , memory and
gfx card .
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Originally posted by tritium4ever
Who cares, Sandra is a completely synthetic benchmark with absolutely no relevance to real world performance. Don't believe me? Put a 3.0C up against a 3000+ S754 with the memory bandwidth benchmark. The 3.0C will own, but the 3000+ will perform better in most real world apps. Bottom line: don't sweat the Sandra results.
not 100% true either beacuse if you then run encoding apps etc which are mem bandwidth dependant the 3C would own. it is not true to say they are not real world results, just games and most apps dont bottleneck on the mem bandwidth.....now that is will be different on 64-bit coding but of course the A64 would still own the 3C on them.
just for the record i would never buy an intel.

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Quote from: russellmrgn on 28-March-06, 10:54:39
Sap147
Can you give us what the D-Bracket was showing ie
R R
G R
As an example this means "Initializing Keyboard Controller"
You will find this information in the manual page 2-23. (On mine) under Hardware Setup
Also can you please do all your tests with the ps2 keyboard and mouse and for now leave your Logitech G7 USB wireless mouse to one side.
Russell
for two sticks of ram = RR
GG
for one stick of ram = GR
GG
as for the g7, it hasnt been plugged in at all, i took it out long ago.. as for the ram, the timing was set to 2T, no overclocking, i will try 2.7 v and let you know, but for the record, it has been running at normal voltage settings for about a year perfectly fine.

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