MSI K8N Neo 4-F Mobo/AMD64 3200+ and OCZ 3200 FREEZE HELP!

I have an AMD64 Winchester 3200+ Processor running on a MSI K8N Neo 4 -F Motherboard. Initially I ran 2 256MB PC-3200 2-3-3-6 modules. When I tried to install Windows it would freeze.. After 3 different attempts I finally got Windows installed, but the freezing continued. Typically it seemed to freeze whenever I installed a Program from CD. For example Office 2003 and was a nightmare. I tried numerous things to stop my problem, but in the end found the only solution was to switch out my two OCZ modules with 1 Muskin 512MB 2.5 3 3 8. Once I did that it ran fine, not as responsive as the OCZ modules but it didnt freeze! So I put the two OCZ modules back in, removed the Muskin and set the timings manually to match those that the Muskin was running on. They seemed fine for awhile, but eventually froze. Once restarted, samething occured. Now I am back on the Muskin RAM. I had planned to order 2 more of the OCZ modules to take myself to 1GB, but obviously that isnt going to work. I am a tad bit stressed out over this. Could the freezing be caused by the memory? I am concerned the memory isnt the issue and that I may have a bigger problem... I am open to ANY advice! I have done alot of googling with no help.

Hi there,
You'd better install windows again, format the drive and reinstall, and in that instalation it should not freeze, if it does then something is wrong, you shouldn't continue the instalation because one of the most common symptoms of a not stable system is a not smooth win instalation.
Let us know of the mem model number so we can help you further, because some of the memory modules from OCZ need alot of Volts to work stable, it can get to 3.0v.
Let us know the mem model e what PSU you have and Amps on it.
Be well....

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