MSI K8N Neo Platinum & Crucial Ballistix 512MB RAM Problem

I have had MSI K8N Neo Platinum and 1x Crucial Ballistix 512MB RAM for 11 months.
I have had 1x Crucial Ballistix 512MB RAM for 2.5 months, for a total of two.
I have had MSI GeForce 6600GT (NX6600GT-VTD) 128MB AGP for 1 month.
For about 1.5 to 2 weeks, I have been seeing random crashes while playing PC games.
I started a thread on the Hard OCP forums a few days ago. I did not know MSI had forums =)
Rather than re-typing, I may as well just post the link:
http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=934956
My issue is also similar to this one:
https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=83799.0
Thanks for the help.

ALL RIGHT, after almost FOUR months my issue is FINALLY resolved.
It is amazing how much time passes when you are hesitant to buy parts unless you are 95% sure it will fix the problem.
OK, here is an update as to what I remember.
I went to BIOS 1.4 and tried many different physical and BIOS RAM configurations (Different seating, different number of DIMMs, different RAM timings, voltages, etc).
I concluded that I could not make my PC 100% stable, but I could get it darn close. With certain settings, such as DDR400, 2-2-2-6, 1T, 2.80V, Aggressive Timing enabled, Memtest failed test #5 every time (this is spec for my RAM). With other settings, such as DDR333, 2.5-3-3-7, 2T, Auto V, Aggressive Timing enabled, Memtest failed test #5 maybe once out of 5000.
I also concluded that the RAM voltage and Aggressive Timing setting was having a big impact. Some settings would not work (failed Memtest) with RAM at 2.80V but would work with RAM at Auto V. Some settings would not work (failed Memtest) with Aggressive Timing enabled but would work with it disabled.
Finally, I started to occasionally get R,G,R,G (Processor Initialization) on the D-Bracket upon cold-start & warm-start, which suggests a PSU issue:
https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=76972.msg542545#msg542545
That pushed me over the top, and I decided to buy a new PSU (TG-480-U22) and a new SATA HDD (WD2500KS) just because.
Problem solved. Thanks for all the help.
I will continue to buy MSI in the future just because of these forums…and a good product of course!

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MSI K8N NEO PLATINUM (RAM/HD problem/mobo problem?) [SOLVED]

my setup:
windows xp pro sp2
amd athlon 64 3200+
msi k8n neo plat - 7030 - bios 2.1
x800 xt vid
sound blaster audigy 2
kingston valueram pc3200 2x512 cas 3-3-3-8
ps = antec 430 watt truepower power supply (20 A on 12V)
I dont know if you guys remember my but i created a topic on here a while back about how my keyboard and mouse suddenly stopped working, well that turned out to be that the msi k8n neo platinum just went bad. So i RMA'd it and recently got the replacement board (with latest bios already installed). It worked completely fine for about a day. Well that same day i got it back, i installed a Logitech G7 USB wireless mouse. after i installed it, i began getting numerous windows stop blue screen errrors, even after i removed the mouse from control panel. So i figured i should format because to rule out everything and start fresh. So i did a FULL format and attempted the reinstall windows again. AFTER the format and BEFORE windows attempted the continue installation, i got the same stop error. I figured now this was a hardware problem. So first i tested RAM. I got the latest version of memtest86 and let it run for 4 hours (11 passes) with NO errors at all. Secondly, i got a western digital hard drive diagnostic program to test for failing hard drive and again no problems with that. I still suspected ram so i tried to boot with only 1 stick installed (in first slot), however the PC didnt boot at all (cleared cmos too). So i moved it to the second slot and cleared cmos again and this time it posted but it just hangs at a cursor and does nothing, same thing happened with third slot. I tried this same procedure clearning cmos each time with the second ram stick and got the SAME results. Shouldnt the motherboard boot with only 1 ram stick installed? Did MSI RMA me another bad board? Any help would be appreciated. thanks.

Quote from: russellmrgn on 28-March-06, 10:54:39
Sap147
Can you give us what the D-Bracket was showing ie
R R
G R
As an example this means "Initializing Keyboard Controller"
You will find this information in the manual page 2-23. (On mine) under Hardware Setup
Also can you please do all your tests with the ps2 keyboard and mouse and for now leave your Logitech G7 USB wireless mouse to one side.
Russell
for two sticks of ram = RR
GG
for one stick of ram = GR
GG
as for the g7, it hasnt been plugged in at all, i took it out long ago.. as for the ram, the timing was set to 2T, no overclocking, i will try 2.7 v and let you know, but for the record, it has been running at normal voltage settings for about a year perfectly fine.

Any MSI K8N NEO Platinum Edition S754 nForce3 users?? Need advice..

Hi, thinking of building a budget system around a S739 Clawhammer 3700 with an
MSI K8N NEO Platinum Edition S754 nForce3 board. But have a few concerns..
- Will this board run on this chip or will it need updated BIOS to do so?
- Will it work with crucial 3200DDR memory.CL=3 • UNBUFFERED • NON-ECC • DDR400 • 2.6V • 64Meg x 64 ?
- Can it take an extra (3rd) 512 stick of this ram?
Thanks.

I have ran the Neo s754 model with 2 * crucial CT6464Z40B 512MB cas 3 modules and never had one single problem with the combination
of A64 GC version , mobo and RAM .
Three modules is tough on the single channel memory controller though , as it would have to deal with 6 banks
and you probably see the ram max speed as DDR333 and 2T commandrate is what it can cope with.

"error loading operating system MSI K8n Neo platinum

OK,
System will post, according to MSI Website I have the latest Bios version.
I can boot from CD.
The only odd item is that I am using the HD that I took out of my old computer with windows already on it.
Tried re-installing windows XP. It went through the loading process and then rebooted. Same error message appears.
Also, is 48 degrees normal for idle temp on CPU AMD 64 3400? 36 degrees NB temp ok?
Oh, yeah, I have a floppy installed, CD-ROM, CD RW, all non SATA. Using IDE cables.
Video is Asus V9980 ultra GeForce FX 5950.
MSI K8N Neo Platinum
AMD 64 3400
Hercules 600 W PSU
WD 80gb HD
Generic CD-Rom
Sony Cd-RW
2 x 512 crucial 400 ddram slosts 1 and 2
Asus V9980 ultra GeForce FX 5950 256 TVD
Do I need to clear bios and re-start?
HD is on it's own cable in IDE 1
Cds on IDE 2 shared.
let me know what you think.
The other related posts I read, people were using raid or multiple OS. I'm not.

I had the same issues as you sometimes Windows would install and sometimes it wouldn't the problem was related to ram. I had my ram in slots one and two like you did and I moved the ram to slots 1 and 3 and now the machine is rock solid stable.
I think most of the problems people are having are actually more ram related than anything else.
So try moving the stick of ram you have in slot 2 to slot 3 and see if this solves your problem. This solution is on forums somewhere I am just not sure where.
Take care,
Bob

MSI K8N Neo Platinum with Vapochill Case problems - Help anyone. :)

Hi all,
Had a bit of a tricky problem and as Im new to this board I have no idea what could be causing this.
First all all system specs:
Athlon 64 3700+ Clawhammer
MSI K8N Neo Platinum -
1 gig Corsair XMS ProL Low Latency Ram (2 x 512mb)
Nvidia Gefore 6600GT
1 x WD Raptor 10000rpm HD
NEC 2500a DVD writer.
Eye-T 550w PSU.
Vapochill SE Case with installed Vapochill Phase change cooling.
Here are photos of it in its present state, you will notice that it isnt installed in the case at the moment.
The reason for that is because the two wont work together and I want them to so so bad...
So, hopefully someone here can save the day for me - here goes.
I have tested the Motherboard and all other componants outside of the case and everything runs smoothly and there are no problems what so ever, great.
I have also retested the Vapochill case with another motherboard and that also works without a hitch.
The problem comes when I insall the MSI board into the system, all hooked with a really basic setup, PSU, Case cooling, CPU and Ram. Flick the on switch on the power suply and the system turns on for around 1/2 a second then turns off again. I found this strange because it soundnt come on at all until I press the power button.
If I press the power button the same thing will happen over and over.
I have tried a different powersupply and this does nothing at all.
I have checked for shorts and there is no possible way it is shorting on anything.
I have a fan plugged in where the CPU fan would go and this doesnt help.
I have taken it back out and tested it again and it still works ok.
Does this sound familiar to anyone? Are there any secret Bio's menu's that would have an option that would solve this?
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Glenn

When you are running the MoBo standalone, what are you connecting to the Power, Reset, HDD, etc. pins ? Are you using the wires from the Vapochill case, or something else ? It looks like a single cable with an intermittent switch (red/white cable). I once had a similar sort of problem and it was because I hadn't connected up (the incredibly fiddly) cables correctly. Other than that, I would have gone for a short of some sort - but you have checked that already, so . . . .
As to the system starting to power-up when you switch on the PSU, I wouldn't worry too much about this. It seems to happen from time to time with some of my systems - amongst other things, the BIOS can be set to resume to previous state after a power-fail.

MSI K8N NEO Platinum Edition memory question

Hi there,
I've currently got a MSI K8N NEO Platinum Edition (Nforce 3) motherboard and 2X 512 MB Corsair Value Select memory modules (both double sided) running at DDR 400 - this runs completely stable and has done for a number of months. I would like to increase my memory to 1.5 Gig but there seems to be a lot of issues?
I originally planned to buy an additional 512 Meg Corsair value select chip and place it in Bank 3 - is this acceptable?
I assue that i would have to drop the speed down to DDR 333 from 400, could anyone tell me how much of a difference this actually makes (when playing FPS games Doom3 etc..) ?
Any help would be greatly appreciated as i've been looking through both this forum and the Corsair one and i cant seem to find the answer.
thanks in advance !

Just note that there are combinations of two sticks that will also make the board run in DDR333 mode (see page 2-8 of the manual). For example, using two double-sided sticks in DIMM2 and DIMM3. I've actually managed to get it to work at DDR400 in those two slots, but it's not perfectly stable and overclocking diminishes drastically. Bottom line is the system will work fine when forced to DDR333...as long as you don't expect to overclock the RAM to any significant degree.

Problems with 64 3200+ on MSI k8n neo platinum.

AMD Athlon64 Newcastle 3200+ AX 2200MHz/2.2GHz 512kb Boxed (with cpu-cooler!) Socket754
MSI K8N Neo Platinum nForce3 250Gb 3DDR-DIMM 5PCI SATA Raid Audio GB-LAN Firewire Socket754 ATX
Kingston KVR400X64C3A/512 512Mb DDR PC3200 400MHz 184pin Unbuffered CL3
Okey here it comes..
I installed everything and all seemed to work okey, until i threw in the XP install cd and began my install..
in the dos install of windows xp, (when it moves files to the hdd) it stopped and said that there was a problem with a file that were to be copied, i pressed enter to try again and the install moves on, this accurs 4-5 times and then it gives me a BIG "IRQL less or not equal".. Blue screen of death.. (it complains on different files each time i try to install xp, tried 15-20 times)
I have tried to change memory to another Kingston KVR400X64C3A/512 512Mb DDR PC3200 400MHz 184pin Unbuffered CL3 with no luck,
changed hdd, change gfx-card. change psu, removed all no-need pci-cards..
but still same error, i aint no expert so i might have missed something in bios or something :(
please help me if you can..

Flashing bios with memory errors is a veeeeery bad idea .
Almost guarantied to ruin your bios chip with bad data block.
That this even is suggested with mem errors , well .
You need to resolve the mem errors before doing anything else.
The windows xp install routine is a very heavy user of cpu and memory
and will fail if you have mem errors like you have.
Some things to try is entering bios and change auto settings on cpu voltage
giving it 0.5v more than default .
Set the memorys voltage to vendors max approved voltage
which for yours is 2.6v +/- 0.1v . So it's safe to set at 2.7v .
Set timings to cas 3 ,ras 3 ,trp 3 , tras 8 , CMD 2T.
Pushing it firmly down in the dimm socket , sometimes it's not all the way down there even if the plastic lockers snap in.
Disconnect all devices not needed for a windows install ,things can be added later.
Have only the hd that os is to be installed to , one cdrom , floppy , memory and
gfx card .
Disconnect USB case front connector (cause corruption and strange faults if
USBOC pin is connected)

MSI K8N-NEO-PLATINUM nForce3 250 + Corsair vs.

Hi, I'm thinking of buying a new computer with a MSI motherboard and now thinking if these will correct and have no direct problems, MSI K8N-NEO-PLATINUM nForce3 250GB + Corsair VS512MB400 Value Select 512Mb DDR PC3200 400MHz 184pin Unbuffered CL2.5. I'm not the guy who is intresserd in overclocking and such things.
Will that motherboard and memory correct good with each other ?
Sorry for my bad english. :D
//Johan
EDIT: I think I made this topic in the wrong forum. Mods move it to AMD64 nVidia Based board ?

MakubeX,
I have the Antec True Power 480. Unfortunately it only has 22 or 23 amps (the specs and the label on the psu have different ratings ) on the +12V rail. Most of the folks here recommend a power supply with at least 24 amps.
The good news is that the system in my sig is working flawlessly so the extra 1 or 2 amps don't seem to make a big difference, at least in my case. I will say, however, that according to Core Center my +12V rail runs around 11.5 volts, which is low and nearly out of ATX sepc. The low voltage will result in higher amperage draw...but again, the system is stable.
I wish you good luck

MSI K8N NEO Platinum Edition Low Benchmark scores

Hi, can someone please help?
I have these details of my friends new PC :
MSI K8N NEO Platinum Edition
AMD Athlon 64 3200+ 2.2 GHz Socket 754, 512 KB cache
Corsair Value S. PC3200 DDR-DIMM 512MB
I have run a sandra memory bandwidth test on it and I think he gets really low scores for his spec.
int buff'd 2657
float buff'd 2656
This is the scores he gets un tweaked and not overclocked. Do these sound like reasonable out of the box scores??
Any information would be appreciated

Quote
Originally posted by tritium4ever
Who cares, Sandra is a completely synthetic benchmark with absolutely no relevance to real world performance. Don't believe me? Put a 3.0C up against a 3000+ S754 with the memory bandwidth benchmark. The 3.0C will own, but the 3000+ will perform better in most real world apps. Bottom line: don't sweat the Sandra results.
not 100% true either beacuse if you then run encoding apps etc which are mem bandwidth dependant the 3C would own. it is not true to say they are not real world results, just games and most apps dont bottleneck on the mem bandwidth.....now that is will be different on 64-bit coding but of course the A64 would still own the 3C on them.
just for the record i would never buy an intel.

MSI K8N Neo Platinum Nforce3 250GB - PSU?

My sister in law have this board, MSI K8N Neo Platinum nforce3 250gb chipset, recently the power supply sounds noisy and a high frequency sound from the Antec Truepower 380W SP. Had maked an RMA to Antec and they had agreed to replace the 380W psu with SmartPower2.0 450W. But they asked me one question, that im not sure about:
"Make sure that your motherboard does not need the -5V. If you want more information on the power supply you can look at this link: http://www.antec.com/us/productDetails.php?ProdID=26450 "
So, do Antecs SmartPower 2.0 450W suits this board and what really is -5V for? As I read the manual, it said ATX 20 pin power connector: JWR1 and at pin 18: -5V
So does it mean this board need a psu that gives -5V on ATX 20 pin power connector and thos board can't use with Antecs SP 2.0 450W?

Quote from: syar2003 on 22-February-06, 05:10:37
Hi!
The K8N Neo Platinum (MS-7030) doesn't use -5v to anything.
So the -5v from the old atx spesification is not needed in your case.
WoW, thanks for fast reply!
So, it won't be any problem to use Antecs SmartPower 2.0 450W with this board then? Want to make sure about it, before accept Antecs offer for replacement and had spent over 4 days to find the problem with his computer. Really don't want to do it again.
This is his riggs:
Antec Sonata
AMD 64 3000+ S754
Corsair Value S. PC3200 DDR 512MB
Maxtor Diamondmax 9 250GB SATA
Maxtor Diamondmax 9 IDE 160GB
Sapphire Radeon 9550 Atlantis 128MB DDR
and
Accton ethernet card on PCI slot
MSI D-Bracket2
so
With the "new" Antec SmartPower 2.0 450W
Any problem with this rigg and PSU?
edit:
Dound this post that it said the board do need -5V and now Im confused?
http://www.archivaty.net/forums/about12964-30.html

MSI K8N NEO PLATINUM BlueScreen Issue! Help!

I'm having an issue with my MSI K8N NEO i get the blue screens occasionally.. A friend of mine says its a IDE driver issue.. LMK Here are the system specifications.
MSI K8N NEO PLATINUM
ATHLON64 3000+ @2.01 (stock)
SAMSUNG 512MB PC3200 CAS 2.5
PNY MX440 64MB DDR AGP8X
MAXTOR DIAMONDPLUS MAX 8 40GB, 7200RPM SLIM
300W GENERIC PS
LMK whats wrong if you have ideas, i dont know if you have sufficient information to come up with a conclusion.. im not too sure whats going on either.. But A friend of mine is getting exact same issues he says its IDE conflicts.. now when the Blue screen comes up it doesnt stay long enough to give a moment to read it.. lmk if you have ideas thx..

which drivers are you using?
Right click MY computer -> properties -> Advance -> start up and recovery -> system failure -> uncheck "automatically restart"
this way it will stop at the blue screen and get an stop error number
Or view the error log
Help and support -> Pick a Task ->Use Tools to view your computer information and diagnose problems ->under Tools -> my computer Information-> View Advanced System Information -> View error log
it shows all errors by date migh provide you error numbers ie. 0x000008e

Help: MSI K8N Neo Platinum

I've had nothing but problems trying to get this system running properly at any overclocking selections. Can you please review my components and give me suggestions on how to improve my situation.
Currently my know problems are 1. The Mother Board will only read my (2) 200/Gig Hard drives as 127/Gigs. 2. Slighest overclocking & system won't boot up.
Components:
Processor: A64 3200+ NewCastle
MoBo: MSI K8N Neo Platinum
MSI K8N Neo Platinum
Ram: Kingston HyperX 2048 PC3200 400Mhz (2 x 1024MB)
Kinston Ram - Tiger Direct
Video: MSI N5900 Ultra-VTD 256
MSI 5900 Ultra
Hard Drives: (2) 200 Gig Seagates
Power: 500W Aspire
3DMark2001 SE Score: 6300
Ok, everything I bought I got because it said it had Overclocking capabilities. So far any attempts to O.C. the system won't boot up properly.
WHAT DO I DO?
Thoughts on my other components???

The first thing you need to do is tighten them memory timings you killing your a64's performance
try 2.5,3,2,8 t1 2.7v
Get the latest bios for the neo it is a truly fast board when set up right.
Your 3d mark 01 should be in the 15k to 20k range
If you are running 200gb hdds you need to run sp1 on windows xp as xp does not recognise drives over 137gb
run your pci at 67 or 68
drop your htt to 3x
before you try to over clock you system get it running well at stock speeds or you will end up in a mess, there is not much point o/cin if its not.
Msi neo need a bit of tweaking but it runs like a dream when you do.
All your parts look ok

MSI k8n neo platinum post problem

I just bought a 2nd hand K8N neo platinum and I can't get it to post, I have reduced down to 1 stick of ram(tried all slots) vga and cpu running out of case. I have an ultra 600 psu that certainly should be doing the buisness as everything was fine on an NF7S-V2 up until 1/2 hour prior.
On the led device it's starting 4 red then after a couple of seconds it goes 1 red 2 red 3 green 4 red which I found relates to keyboard controller. I've tried with various keyboards but no joy. I get nothing on the screen at all but that's the next stage in post.
My memory is Twinmos 3200 twin x 2 x 512 double sided, which I saw in the sticky can be troublesome.
Any body got any ideas?

i am having an almost identical problem.
First the system wont go past post,then i realised it would but only boot if i had the USB mouse unplugged (i noticed the d-brackets lights changed after i unplugged the mouse)
then i was able to get to windows, however i couldn't do much (mouse wouldnt detect if replugged, keyboard not detected - all lights off)
So i tried clearing the CMOS
now i am having the same problem, except this time i get CMOS checksum error - defaults loaded
then it tells me to press f1 to continue to del to enter setup, which i cant do since the keyboard wont work. so now im totally bamboozled
I've tried changing the PSU as well with no luck (both were 500watts)
Funny thing is, the pc having the problem is identical to the pc im writing on now, presonally i think the motherboard is not v good, since alot of people have this problem or similar to it. (and yes im using the keyboard and mouse now, that i tested on the other pc)
SPECS:
MSI k8N Neo Platinum
Powercolor Radeon 9800 Pro
AMD 64 3000+
1GB Geil Memory
Maxtor 160GB
500watt Magna Dual Fans
Will check what the D-bracket says and will report back.
ok here goes:
(with usb mouse plugged in)
1= green
2= red
3=red
4=green
(without usb mouse plugged in) - but bare in mind i cant press f1 (no keyboard) to continue else i would probably be able to get to windows.
1= green
2= green
3=green
4=red

Bios from my Msi k8n Neo Platinum (socket 754)

Wich is the last beta bios from my Msi k8n Neo Platinum (socket 754) ?
And where download?
Thanks

A thread here , from when 1.56 appeared:
MSI K8N Neo Plat Beta Bios 1.56
and when 1.55 appeared:
New Bios For MSI K8N Neo Platinum [ 1.55]
Seems to me that the 1.5x series were focused on chipset timings and ram .
Another thing is that i can boot from a usb pen with this one .(never got it to work with others) .
Beta bioses don't come with a changelog , they leak out . So any complete
list of changes is not possible to provide.

New Bios For MSI K8N Neo Platinum [ 1.55]

NEW BIOS FOR MSI K8N Neo Platinum !!!!
BIOS 1.55 FOR K8N
AND CLICK
Apothikeusi/Emfanisi (Greek Language )
Your CPU temperature is in the safe range. Please rest assured. If you are
willing to, would you please flash BIOS to the version 1.55 verifying? We
send it by attachment. As to how to flash BIOS, please refer to the word file
in the attached file. Please kindly inform us of the results. Thanks for your
cooperation.
In addition, please enter BIOS to load optimized defaults after flashing BIOS.
Please feel free to let us know if you still have any further issues or inquiries.
Best regards,
MSI Technical Support

OMG !!!!
Something is really weird about this bios !!!!
I can't boot overclocked from bios even at 220 HT, and at the beginning i was REALY disapointed.
Then i set it to optimize defaults ( and yes i did the whole flashing thing ) and i am now IN WINDOWS with my cheapo Kingston Value that did MAX 230 with problems NOW AT A WOOPING 237 Mhz and still going UP !!!!
OMG OMG....
If only i can get it to boot from bios.Seems pretty stable in windows even at 237.
Really strange guys.I thought 230 was my memory limit....
Gonna try higher and let you know.
P.S. this bios seems to like Kinston Ram....Value at least

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