MSI K8N NEO Platinum Edition memory question

Hi there,
I've currently got a MSI K8N NEO Platinum Edition (Nforce 3) motherboard and 2X 512 MB Corsair Value Select memory modules (both double sided) running at DDR 400 - this runs completely stable and has done for a number of months. I would like to increase my memory to 1.5 Gig but there seems to be a lot of issues?
I originally planned to buy an additional 512 Meg Corsair value select chip and place it in Bank 3 - is this acceptable?
I assue that i would have to drop the speed down to DDR 333 from 400, could anyone tell me how much of a difference this actually makes (when playing FPS games Doom3 etc..) ?
Any help would be greatly appreciated as i've been looking through both this forum and the Corsair one and i cant seem to find the answer.
thanks in advance !

Just note that there are combinations of two sticks that will also make the board run in DDR333 mode (see page 2-8 of the manual). For example, using two double-sided sticks in DIMM2 and DIMM3. I've actually managed to get it to work at DDR400 in those two slots, but it's not perfectly stable and overclocking diminishes drastically. Bottom line is the system will work fine when forced to DDR333...as long as you don't expect to overclock the RAM to any significant degree.

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MSI K8N NEO Platinum Edition Memory plz help!

Hi
http://www.datorbutiken.com/se/defa...2X512DDRCA400PR
Is this memory ok with MSI K8N NEO Platinum Edition ?
If it is, do you know how well its oc:s?

He would be talking about this:
http://www.newegg.com/app/viewProductDesc.asp?description=20-145-466&depa=0
But I wouldn't reccomend that memory mainly because I have heard mixed reviews about it. You can get the same (if not better) memory at either of these links, the only difference between the two links is the color of the heatspreader (as far as i can tell). This is the memory I have and it works very well, plus its much cheaper:
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=20-145-449&depa=0
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=20-145-450&depa=0

MSI K8N NEO Platinum Edition Low Benchmark scores

Hi, can someone please help?
I have these details of my friends new PC :
MSI K8N NEO Platinum Edition
AMD Athlon 64 3200+ 2.2 GHz Socket 754, 512 KB cache
Corsair Value S. PC3200 DDR-DIMM 512MB
I have run a sandra memory bandwidth test on it and I think he gets really low scores for his spec.
int buff'd 2657
float buff'd 2656
This is the scores he gets un tweaked and not overclocked. Do these sound like reasonable out of the box scores??
Any information would be appreciated

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Who cares, Sandra is a completely synthetic benchmark with absolutely no relevance to real world performance. Don't believe me? Put a 3.0C up against a 3000+ S754 with the memory bandwidth benchmark. The 3.0C will own, but the 3000+ will perform better in most real world apps. Bottom line: don't sweat the Sandra results.
not 100% true either beacuse if you then run encoding apps etc which are mem bandwidth dependant the 3C would own. it is not true to say they are not real world results, just games and most apps dont bottleneck on the mem bandwidth.....now that is will be different on 64-bit coding but of course the A64 would still own the 3C on them.
just for the record i would never buy an intel.

Any MSI K8N NEO Platinum Edition S754 nForce3 users?? Need advice..

Hi, thinking of building a budget system around a S739 Clawhammer 3700 with an
MSI K8N NEO Platinum Edition S754 nForce3 board. But have a few concerns..
- Will this board run on this chip or will it need updated BIOS to do so?
- Will it work with crucial 3200DDR memory.CL=3 • UNBUFFERED • NON-ECC • DDR400 • 2.6V • 64Meg x 64 ?
- Can it take an extra (3rd) 512 stick of this ram?
Thanks.

I have ran the Neo s754 model with 2 * crucial CT6464Z40B 512MB cas 3 modules and never had one single problem with the combination
of A64 GC version , mobo and RAM .
Three modules is tough on the single channel memory controller though , as it would have to deal with 6 banks
and you probably see the ram max speed as DDR333 and 2T commandrate is what it can cope with.

MSI K8N NEO Platinum Edition PROBLEM

Hi (my english is not good sorry for that)
I just got my new computer:
MSI K8N NEO Platinum Edition
AMD Athlon64 3200+
Western Digital Caviar 160Gb
PNY Verto GeForce 6800Ultra 256Mb
1GB Value Select pc3200
Levicom 500W
The Problem is that when i start the computer, it boot and die directly no bootscreen what so ever, it boot and die. i dont know what to do plz help me

Make sure you have Both the ATX Wires on.. theres the Big one! (21Pins i think).. and the Small 4Pin Connector both need to be connected.. if you havent done so yet.. Another thing you could do is Take everything out and place it on a cardboard or something appropriate for the mobo.... I think your motherboard is shorting?.. if it's touching your case.. I had somewhat the same issue long time ago.. give it a try..if you want hope it helps..

MSI K8N Neo Platinum Edition review

MSI K8N Neo Platinum Edition
http://www.tbreak.com/reviews/article.php?id=290

Is it worth the money I wonder? There aren't that many programs written wich can run in 64 bit mode! This is truly the main reason for getting this board unless all you guys have a load of money and want to be at the cutting edge.
I think I'll wait till its get worth the money... or am I completely wrong here?
E-Dog

MSI K8N Neo Platinum Edition vs. ASUS K8N-E Deluxe

I'm beginning to get nervous. Since almost everyone has had problems with the MSI board, I'm beginning to doubt it's a good choice...
I've been looking some at the ASUS K8N-E Deluxe. Is this board a better choice?

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It could be an amazing board if it didn't behave like the DFI Ultra B did... with it's cold-boot problems when OC'd, need of using a BETA BIOS for good overclocking results, losing the PS/2 mouse on boot-up. A couple of my friends can't break 230Mhz HTT no matter what BIOS they use, and their components are all good for it. I can safely say that this is my first and last MSI product. When I also compare the MSI support forums to those of ABIT etc I also find them sorely lacking. It's not the most constructive or knowldgeable place in the world. I'll be getting the DFI NF3 when it's released I think, even if it does have the cold-boot problems it can't be worse than the MSI, and will likely at least come with an active chipset cooler. As for reliability, two of my friends build computers for a living and swear by ASUS and ABIT, they would never build MSI into their systems. MSI is very much a mid-rank manufacturer, not top-flight.
*dons flame-suit*.
I don't think anyone is going to flame you... but I will point this out:
You are over clocking. ? You'll get varied results from any brand.
Like there's some inherent warranty behind overclockability. Give me a break.
I had an ASUS board where a diode EXPLODED and took out a Thunderbird. I handled it with support... like I should have.
God I hate whiners.
Listen bud, I ain't a whiner, but I say things how I see them and I don't needlessly mince my words, in my job it desn't pay to. I don't pussy-foot around anyone. Also, i've been overclocking a long while now, likely far longer then your wee self, and i've used a wide range of motherboards on both the AMD and Intel platforms.
Also, God knows what you're talking about with the "inherent warranty behind overclockability" part as that's not even in context, I made no reference to the warranty, merely on the board's performance and my opinions on MSI. They weren't offensive, merely informed opinions.
If you're going to attempt a put-down, please try and make it vaguely relevant and remotely intelligent. Otherwise...
Just for the record, my first overclocked machine was an 80286
lol same here tiresmoke, touche sir.
And SAB I hear you mate, i'm sure you love MSI motherboards, but review after review has shown they are not the best, in terms of stability or overclocking, especially overclocking in fact. Ask 9/10 reviewers and they would rate ABIT, DFI or ASUS over MSI every time. But the very fact that I bought an MSI motherboard shows I am willing to give them a chance, and I will wait until the next BIOS update for the NEO Platinum before I make my final judgement on my first ever MSI product. If the BIOS turns out to be a dud and doesn't solve the many issues with this board, i'll say bye bye forever, as many others no doubt will who have bought the MSI Neo Platinum as their first MSI motherboard, mainly because it was the first Norce3 250GB to be released.

Corsair Value Select on MSI K8N NEO Platinum Edition

Does anyone have this combo? (A64 CG) and can tell me some clock result and bios etc how high fsb and so on
THX
/Stiga

value ram usually will not clock high, higher end ram like corsairs xms is better suited for ocing

Newb Question MSI K8N Neo Platinum.

okay i have my parts coming in for my first build ever(i'm nervous, but anxious at the same time) and i just got my MSI K8N Neo Platinum today, all the other parts will come in the next couple of days, cpu arrives next week i believe, specs:
Antec P-160WF
OCZ 520w
Athlon 3400+
mobo(above)
1g corsair
160 Samsung S-ATA HD
I've been going over the mobo manual and i'm confused. I'm not familiar with raid and never had a sata drive, do they go hand and hand? Meaning do i have to set up a raid to use the s-ata drive or do i just plug the sata drive into the mobo and everything will work, loading up windows xp and all? I don't want to use raid, but do i have to? i'm trying to make this build as simple as possible since it's my first time, i know this is probably a dumb question, i'm just new at this.....don't be surprised to see more dumb questions in the coming weeks! thanks.

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>>Meaning do i have to set up a raid to use the s-ata drive or do i just plug the sata drive into the mobo and everything will work, loading up windows xp and all?
In a word, no.
I've just fired up my first homebuilt last night. Joy! It's all went perfect on the first power-up. I'm in a similar position, and have a single SATA Hitachi Deskstar. Although I've not yet installed an OS, my understanding is that the Serial ATA interface will work just fine with a single drive. No multiple drive RAID is needed.
My understanding is that all you have to be sure to do is load the SATA drivers from the included diskette, by pressing F6 on boot up. Otherwise the drive won't be properly recognized by the bios. I haven't done this yet, and its still showing as an IDE drive in some places of my bios setup.
If I had it to do over again I doubt I'd spend the extra dollars to go SATA with a single HD. It adds another level of complexity in transferring things to the new machine, and - according to certain authorities -- doesn't really add the extra performance over an ATA 133 that I first thought it would. At least with a 7200 RPM drive, it seems that the 150 or 133 limits never come into play, as the drive's mechanical limitations are less than both... so it's not a bottleneck.
I'm still trying to decide the best way to transfer my Win xp OS and other MS Office programs and updates. I'm not sure if I can clone my PATA HD to the SATA, or if I do what problems I'd have to fix. I've been thinking about transferring a Ghost or Acronis True Image to the new machine and then doing a WinXP repair install to see if I can get everything working with a minimum of time and effort. I'm not sure what to expect, or if it will even work at all. Or if it does, if it will leave me with problems (registry, drivers, etc).
We'll soon see.
Good luck with the build. The only real headache I had, other than getting the HSF uniit on the processor, was trying to connect the case front panel wires for the USB, Firewire, and Audio out and IN jacks, to the mainboard headers. The case wires were single pins and were labeled differently that the MB header block pin assignments. I finally gave up on the audio and firewire, and just used the USB connections after modifying them -- removing the two extra ground wires on pins 9 and 10.
Just take your time and follow the directions. Spend some time looking at the way the heatsink and fan connect onto the processor. Doing that without messing up the thermal compound can be tricky, and the directions from AMD could be clearer on that score.
Again, good luck,
thanks for the info, let me know how it goes...by the sound of what rainz said it seems you don't need to put in that 3.5" floppy disk that came with the mobo, is that right, rainz? Let me know how your OS installs onebyte, i'm curious to know if the SATA gave you trouble or not, wish you luck!

Help with MSI K8N Neo Platinum

HELP please- motherboard MSI K8N Neo PLATINUM: I tried to take away the backplate for the heatsink (on the back side of MB) in order to install the zalman HS beafore i read the forum (use a fan...) and the worst of all happend:
I scratched the back surface!! the scratches are minor, that is 4 scratches half a milimeter long each and not deep but i can see the copper of some lines leading from the memory slots to the processr. My question is : can I try and build the computer on that motherboard anyway or better buy a new one? is there a risk of dammaging other components? oh god what a mistake!

Make sure the new backplate is non-conductive. The backplate for the Hyper 6 has a non-conductive sticker on it. Make sure to keep it on if youve got one... If the lines are exposed even with the back-plate on perhaps you should cover them with some non-conductive (100% non conductive!) tape or something.
Then it doesnt matter if they are exposed, as long as they are ok.
A good tip, which got when i was removing my backplate, is to use a blow dryer to heat it up and the remove it with your fingers. That way youll also notice if it gets to hot
The glue gets sticky at blow drier temps. And pls, dont singe the MB with your blow dryer, you only have to make it hot, and if you cant touch it, how can you remove it with your fingers?
I guess theres no way of telling if you have a serious prob and no way to tell if your cpu will be ok. I guess you could (?) try and start it wíthout anything (cpu, mems) but a PSU, and then, if it (and maybe the PSU) goes "!Pfsssssss!" or "bang!", youll now you will have to replace it.
I put a screwdriver through an asus board once, and it still worked...

MSI K8N-NEO-PLATINUM nForce3 250 + Corsair vs.

Hi, I'm thinking of buying a new computer with a MSI motherboard and now thinking if these will correct and have no direct problems, MSI K8N-NEO-PLATINUM nForce3 250GB + Corsair VS512MB400 Value Select 512Mb DDR PC3200 400MHz 184pin Unbuffered CL2.5. I'm not the guy who is intresserd in overclocking and such things.
Will that motherboard and memory correct good with each other ?
Sorry for my bad english. :D
//Johan
EDIT: I think I made this topic in the wrong forum. Mods move it to AMD64 nVidia Based board ?

MakubeX,
I have the Antec True Power 480. Unfortunately it only has 22 or 23 amps (the specs and the label on the psu have different ratings ) on the +12V rail. Most of the folks here recommend a power supply with at least 24 amps.
The good news is that the system in my sig is working flawlessly so the extra 1 or 2 amps don't seem to make a big difference, at least in my case. I will say, however, that according to Core Center my +12V rail runs around 11.5 volts, which is low and nearly out of ATX sepc. The low voltage will result in higher amperage draw...but again, the system is stable.
I wish you good luck

MSI K8N Neo Platinum Nforce3 250GB - PSU?

My sister in law have this board, MSI K8N Neo Platinum nforce3 250gb chipset, recently the power supply sounds noisy and a high frequency sound from the Antec Truepower 380W SP. Had maked an RMA to Antec and they had agreed to replace the 380W psu with SmartPower2.0 450W. But they asked me one question, that im not sure about:
"Make sure that your motherboard does not need the -5V. If you want more information on the power supply you can look at this link: http://www.antec.com/us/productDetails.php?ProdID=26450 "
So, do Antecs SmartPower 2.0 450W suits this board and what really is -5V for? As I read the manual, it said ATX 20 pin power connector: JWR1 and at pin 18: -5V
So does it mean this board need a psu that gives -5V on ATX 20 pin power connector and thos board can't use with Antecs SP 2.0 450W?

Quote from: syar2003 on 22-February-06, 05:10:37
Hi!
The K8N Neo Platinum (MS-7030) doesn't use -5v to anything.
So the -5v from the old atx spesification is not needed in your case.
WoW, thanks for fast reply!
So, it won't be any problem to use Antecs SmartPower 2.0 450W with this board then? Want to make sure about it, before accept Antecs offer for replacement and had spent over 4 days to find the problem with his computer. Really don't want to do it again.
This is his riggs:
Antec Sonata
AMD 64 3000+ S754
Corsair Value S. PC3200 DDR 512MB
Maxtor Diamondmax 9 250GB SATA
Maxtor Diamondmax 9 IDE 160GB
Sapphire Radeon 9550 Atlantis 128MB DDR
and
Accton ethernet card on PCI slot
MSI D-Bracket2
so
With the "new" Antec SmartPower 2.0 450W
Any problem with this rigg and PSU?
edit:
Dound this post that it said the board do need -5V and now Im confused?
http://www.archivaty.net/forums/about12964-30.html

*UPDATED 7/15/04* Complete guide to bioses, drivers, and needed files for the MSI K8N Neo Platinum

Complete newbie's guide to bioses, drivers, and needed files for the MSI K8N Neo Platinum:
Last Updated: Thursday July 15th, 2004
Bioses:
(In order of date released.)
1.1b3 - (Download)
- Pre-1.1, given to reviewers to use in their reviews and benchmarks.
- Less stable, but supposedly you get slightly better overclocks.
1.1 Official - (Download)
1. This is AWARD BIOS release
2. This BIOS fixes the following problems of the previous version:
- Memory always run DDR 200 when install single side DDR on DIMM2 & DIMM3.
- Windows 2000 can't format the RAID IDE HDD when plug in Promise 378 controller.
1.2b5 - (Download)
1.2b7 - (No Download Yet)
1.2b10 - (Download)
- First attempt to fix false temperature readings. Fixes it for some people with Newcastle cores and doesn't fix it for anybody with Clawhammer cores.
1.2b12 - (Download)
- Second attempt to fix false temperature readings. Fixes it for some people with Newcastle cores and some people with Clawhammer cores.
1.3b1 - (Download)
- Another attempt to fix temperature problems?
- Possibly fixes cold boot/power light issues?
1.2 Official - (Download)
1. This is AWARD BIOS release
2. This BIOS fixes the following problems of the previous version:
- System can't resume from S3 sometimes when install USB device.
- Support K8 Sempron CPU.
- Turn off keyboard LED in S3.
--Quick Guide for flashing BIOS, provided by MSI--
1. Create a MS-DOS boot diskette, then copy the the .exe and the bios file to the floppy disk. Both of these files can be found in the package you downloaded.
2. Press "Delete" and go to BIOS setup while computer bootup.
Check BIOS advanced features and see if BIOS flash write control is enabled
(This option must be enabled. If you can not find this setting, it means the BIOS can be
flashed.)
3. Boot from MS-DOS boot diskette and get a:\> prompt.
4. Type "", then press ENTER
5. The flash program will then ask "Do you want to save BIOS?", please press "N" for no. The when you see Press 'Y' to program or 'N' to Exit, please press "Y" to continue.
6. After flashing complete, remove floppy and reset the system .
7. Press DELETE or F1 when prompted at first reboot after flashing.
8. Load BIOS optimized defaults, then save settings and exits.
Drivers & Needed Files:
(Note: All these drivers are for Windows XP.)
Leaked Nvidia nForce3 Chipset Drivers Version 4.40
(Please use at your own risk, these are LEAKED drivers. Password for the .zip file is "ocworkbench rules". Also, you will need to rename the WinXP_2K folder in IDE to either WinXP or Win2K else the installer doesn't pick it up.) Thanks for the link Wonkanoby!
*NEW* Leaked Nvidia nForce3 Chipset Drivers Version 5.03
More leaked drivers? Seems some parts of the drivers are older and some are newer.
1. Windows XP Service Pack 1A (Web Install) -or- Windows XP Service Pack 1A (Full Install)
2. Microsoft DirectX 9.0b (Web Install) -or- Microsoft DirectX 9.0b (Full Install)
3. Nvidia nForce3 Chipset Drivers Version 4.24
4. AMD Athlon 64 Processor Driver Version 1.1.0.14
5. Nvidia Video Card Driver Version 56.72 -or- Omega Nvidia Video Card Driver Version v1.5303
(The Omega drivers are third party drivers optimized for gaming, most prefer these over the standard Nvidia drivers.)
5. ATI Video Card Driver Version 4.7 -or- Omega ATI Video Card Driver Version 2.5.51
(The Omega drivers are third party drivers optimized for gaming, most prefer these over the standard ATI drivers.)
6. Onboard Sound Driver (Realtek AC'97 Audio Codec) Version A3.61
It is HIGHLY reccomended that you install the drivers/needed files in the order listed above. Please note that there are two #5's because you either install one or the other depending on your video card, do not install both of them.
You will come across a problem here though. You can't install the chipset drivers without installing the Windows service pack and DirectX first, but the Windows service pack and DirectX installs need the internet to download files and you won't have working internet until you install the chipset drivers. Here's what I did to get around this. Instead of downloading the web install versions of Windows service pack and DirectX, download the full version and and put them along with all the other drivers on a backup hard drive or burn them to a CD, this way you will have all the drivers you need when it's time to install them and none of them will require the internet to download files.
Another note when installing drivers. Apparently the Nvidia chipset drivers also come with drivers for the onboard sound, but people seem to agree that the Realtek onboard sound drivers are better. When you are installing the Nvidia chipset drivers, just be sure to uncheck the box for sound drivers when it asks you which drivers you would like to install. Now you can safely install the Realtek drivers without any chance of conflicting sound drivers. Thanks for the tip Wonkanoby!

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You CAN install the nforce drivers BEFORE installing SP1. The only requirement to install the nforce drivers is DX9.
So is SP1 still recommended to install before the nforce drivers?
The installer still reccomends to install it beforehand for full USB 2.0 functionality... I would have put what you said in there but I wanted to keep it as simple as possible.
oh. IIRC the installer just says USB 2.0 will be fully functional after SP1 is installed. So after you install SP1 you go into device manager and u click update driver and it will auto search and update the driver.
Simplicity-wise, i guess its pretty much equal. It might take less preparation to just copy DX9 full onto a CD and install that first, then nforce driver, then right away you have yoru internet connection.
but i dunno.. i guess i will try it your way this time when my RMA"d board comes.
i will be fomratting and doing a fresh install later on today and will let you know if i come across any problems

Problems with 64 3200+ on MSI k8n neo platinum.

AMD Athlon64 Newcastle 3200+ AX 2200MHz/2.2GHz 512kb Boxed (with cpu-cooler!) Socket754
MSI K8N Neo Platinum nForce3 250Gb 3DDR-DIMM 5PCI SATA Raid Audio GB-LAN Firewire Socket754 ATX
Kingston KVR400X64C3A/512 512Mb DDR PC3200 400MHz 184pin Unbuffered CL3
Okey here it comes..
I installed everything and all seemed to work okey, until i threw in the XP install cd and began my install..
in the dos install of windows xp, (when it moves files to the hdd) it stopped and said that there was a problem with a file that were to be copied, i pressed enter to try again and the install moves on, this accurs 4-5 times and then it gives me a BIG "IRQL less or not equal".. Blue screen of death.. (it complains on different files each time i try to install xp, tried 15-20 times)
I have tried to change memory to another Kingston KVR400X64C3A/512 512Mb DDR PC3200 400MHz 184pin Unbuffered CL3 with no luck,
changed hdd, change gfx-card. change psu, removed all no-need pci-cards..
but still same error, i aint no expert so i might have missed something in bios or something :(
please help me if you can..

Flashing bios with memory errors is a veeeeery bad idea .
Almost guarantied to ruin your bios chip with bad data block.
That this even is suggested with mem errors , well .
You need to resolve the mem errors before doing anything else.
The windows xp install routine is a very heavy user of cpu and memory
and will fail if you have mem errors like you have.
Some things to try is entering bios and change auto settings on cpu voltage
giving it 0.5v more than default .
Set the memorys voltage to vendors max approved voltage
which for yours is 2.6v +/- 0.1v . So it's safe to set at 2.7v .
Set timings to cas 3 ,ras 3 ,trp 3 , tras 8 , CMD 2T.
Pushing it firmly down in the dimm socket , sometimes it's not all the way down there even if the plastic lockers snap in.
Disconnect all devices not needed for a windows install ,things can be added later.
Have only the hd that os is to be installed to , one cdrom , floppy , memory and
gfx card .
Disconnect USB case front connector (cause corruption and strange faults if
USBOC pin is connected)

MSI K8N Neo Platinum and hyperttransport

Can someone please explain to me how MSI K8N Neo Platinum uses hypertransport? What is the option in the bios for hypertransport used for? What is it's advantages/disadvantages?

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4 is the multiplier of the Front Side Bus frequency, default of 200MHz.
4 * 200MHz = 800MHz
Since this is a bi-directional bus (like DDR memory) this 800 gets multiplied by 2.
2 * 800MHz = 1600MHz or 1.6GHz
I'm sure you've seen AMD advertise a 1600MHz HyperTransport in response to Intel's 800MHz FSB.
To my knowledge, you can't use the 5x multiplier in Socket 754 (unless you underclock the Front Side Bus?)
The 5x will be available on Socket 939.
Ah. That's very enlightening. Thanks for the info.

MSI K8N NEO Platinum Edition memory question

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