MSI K8N Neo-V nForce3 250 CPU Support

I've been to about a million MSI pages looking for CPU support for this Mobo and can't find a definitive answer. I see where this board supports Semprons but does it support - AMD Sempron 64 3300+ Palermo 800MHz FSB Socket 754
Or does 64 support only lend itself to Athlons.
I think it does but before I buy I need to know fer sure.
Thanks,
Ahumado

MakubeX,
I have the Antec True Power 480. Unfortunately it only has 22 or 23 amps (the specs and the label on the psu have different ratings ) on the +12V rail. Most of the folks here recommend a power supply with at least 24 amps.
The good news is that the system in my sig is working flawlessly so the extra 1 or 2 amps don't seem to make a big difference, at least in my case. I will say, however, that according to Core Center my +12V rail runs around 11.5 volts, which is low and nearly out of ATX sepc. The low voltage will result in higher amperage draw...but again, the system is stable.
I wish you good luck

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MakubeX,
I have the Antec True Power 480. Unfortunately it only has 22 or 23 amps (the specs and the label on the psu have different ratings ) on the +12V rail. Most of the folks here recommend a power supply with at least 24 amps.
The good news is that the system in my sig is working flawlessly so the extra 1 or 2 amps don't seem to make a big difference, at least in my case. I will say, however, that according to Core Center my +12V rail runs around 11.5 volts, which is low and nearly out of ATX sepc. The low voltage will result in higher amperage draw...but again, the system is stable.
I wish you good luck

MSI K8N Neo Platinum Nforce3 250GB - PSU?

My sister in law have this board, MSI K8N Neo Platinum nforce3 250gb chipset, recently the power supply sounds noisy and a high frequency sound from the Antec Truepower 380W SP. Had maked an RMA to Antec and they had agreed to replace the 380W psu with SmartPower2.0 450W. But they asked me one question, that im not sure about:
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So, do Antecs SmartPower 2.0 450W suits this board and what really is -5V for? As I read the manual, it said ATX 20 pin power connector: JWR1 and at pin 18: -5V
So does it mean this board need a psu that gives -5V on ATX 20 pin power connector and thos board can't use with Antecs SP 2.0 450W?

Quote from: syar2003 on 22-February-06, 05:10:37
Hi!
The K8N Neo Platinum (MS-7030) doesn't use -5v to anything.
So the -5v from the old atx spesification is not needed in your case.
WoW, thanks for fast reply!
So, it won't be any problem to use Antecs SmartPower 2.0 450W with this board then? Want to make sure about it, before accept Antecs offer for replacement and had spent over 4 days to find the problem with his computer. Really don't want to do it again.
This is his riggs:
Antec Sonata
AMD 64 3000+ S754
Corsair Value S. PC3200 DDR 512MB
Maxtor Diamondmax 9 250GB SATA
Maxtor Diamondmax 9 IDE 160GB
Sapphire Radeon 9550 Atlantis 128MB DDR
and
Accton ethernet card on PCI slot
MSI D-Bracket2
so
With the "new" Antec SmartPower 2.0 450W
Any problem with this rigg and PSU?
edit:
Dound this post that it said the board do need -5V and now Im confused?
http://www.archivaty.net/forums/about12964-30.html

SATA port multiplier on MSI K8N Neo Platinum - NForce3 250Gb?

Hi,
I have a MSI K8N Neo Platinum, which uses a NForce3 250Gb chipset. I have read that port multipliers can use either SATA or SATA II hosts and drives, but I don't know if the technology is 100%, transparently compatible.
Is the aforementioned chipset/motherboard compatible with port multiplier technology?
Does it support FIS, which gives the greatest perfomance?
Does it need a BIOS or driver update?
Thanks for the attention
Brazilian Joe

Quote from: syar2003 on 22-February-06, 05:10:37
Hi!
The K8N Neo Platinum (MS-7030) doesn't use -5v to anything.
So the -5v from the old atx spesification is not needed in your case.
WoW, thanks for fast reply!
So, it won't be any problem to use Antecs SmartPower 2.0 450W with this board then? Want to make sure about it, before accept Antecs offer for replacement and had spent over 4 days to find the problem with his computer. Really don't want to do it again.
This is his riggs:
Antec Sonata
AMD 64 3000+ S754
Corsair Value S. PC3200 DDR 512MB
Maxtor Diamondmax 9 250GB SATA
Maxtor Diamondmax 9 IDE 160GB
Sapphire Radeon 9550 Atlantis 128MB DDR
and
Accton ethernet card on PCI slot
MSI D-Bracket2
so
With the "new" Antec SmartPower 2.0 450W
Any problem with this rigg and PSU?
edit:
Dound this post that it said the board do need -5V and now Im confused?
http://www.archivaty.net/forums/about12964-30.html

MSI K8N Neo 4 Platinum Smart CPU Fan reports 0 rpm ?

Hi
I have a MSI K8N Neo 4 Platinum (MS-7125) motherboard with an Athlon 64 3700+ CPU and an Arctic Cooling Silencer Ultra 64 HSF.
In the BIOS setup, in the 'Monitor H/W' area you can set something called the 'Smart CPU Fan Target'.
o If I set this to disabled, it reports a fan speed of about 2,280 rpm.
o If I set it to 40°C, it reports a fan speed of 0 rpm ! (the fan is turning)
The MSI Core Center utility and Everest Ultimate also both report the fan speed as 0 rpm.
I assume that if I disable Smart CPU Fan, the fan always rotates at max. rpm; if I set it to 40°C, the fan runs at a slow speed until the temperature exceeds 40°C, at which point it speeds up (likewise if I set it to 50°C or 60°C). However, the fan IS turning.
Can anyone explain this ? I would like the reassurance of having the CPU HSF speed reported.
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Very old post yes but I feel the need to reply anyway because I have the same problem myself.
Very strange and would be nice to hear if any more of ya guys out there can see the same.
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hi
just built a amd 64 3400 with msi k8n neo plat: with xfx 256 geforce nvidia graphic n kinston 512 ddr 400.
but for some reason its giving the blue scree with dumping memory msg on the screen.changes the memory but still got the same problem updated the bios to 1.5 still same thing.
any cue with the problem.
thnks

System restore? You need to find out what's causing the problem and you have too many things connected to it to be able to figure out what it is, always start with a basic system - video, primary hard disk, cd + fdd, no more and nothing else connected. Then when something goes wrong along the way you'll have more chance of narrowing it down if the problem appears.
What you'll want to do now is disable/uninstall/unplug any additional non-system-critical components that you have connected to it such as extra usb slots, printers, scanners and anything else. Keyboard, mouse, video with no sound and see if the problem persists. If it does, try another video driver. If it's fixed then reconnect/enable one device and try again until the problem reappears and you can find out what's causing it -- unless you can speed read that message quickly before it shuts down
Now that I think of it, have you set the OS to not automatically reboot on any errors? That might keep the BSOD up there so you can note it down and hopefully point at the problem instead of going through all the above hassle ^^

Msi K8n Neo Platinum, Nforce3

Hi.
i bought this motherboard, and i was trying to assemble it.
System configuration
Config:
Sempron 2800+
512mb DDR 333
HD 40gb ide
HD 5gb ide
Ati radeon 9000 agp
cd-rom
420 watts
When i try to install windows, during the process it reboots, and i can't do nothing.
I already try with another motherboard, and another energy supplier and the system works just fine.
The motherboard is brand new, and i never used it before.
Is this problem from the motherboard?
Please hepl me.
Best Regards

Quote from: cRaZyzMaN on 05-December-06, 04:49:19
Sempron 2800+
512mb DDR 333
HD 40gb ide
HD 5gb ide
Ati radeon 9000 agp
cd-rom
420 watts
The motherboard is brand new, and i never used it before.
Is this problem from the motherboard?
Please hepl me.
Best Regards
When did you bought it? How long does the mobo didn been used? Have you tried to reset the Bios again by removing the CMOS battery and leave it for 10-30 min? Make sure you removed the power connector before removing it. Gd luck.
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Okey here it comes..
I installed everything and all seemed to work okey, until i threw in the XP install cd and began my install..
in the dos install of windows xp, (when it moves files to the hdd) it stopped and said that there was a problem with a file that were to be copied, i pressed enter to try again and the install moves on, this accurs 4-5 times and then it gives me a BIG "IRQL less or not equal".. Blue screen of death.. (it complains on different files each time i try to install xp, tried 15-20 times)
I have tried to change memory to another Kingston KVR400X64C3A/512 512Mb DDR PC3200 400MHz 184pin Unbuffered CL3 with no luck,
changed hdd, change gfx-card. change psu, removed all no-need pci-cards..
but still same error, i aint no expert so i might have missed something in bios or something :(
please help me if you can..

Flashing bios with memory errors is a veeeeery bad idea .
Almost guarantied to ruin your bios chip with bad data block.
That this even is suggested with mem errors , well .
You need to resolve the mem errors before doing anything else.
The windows xp install routine is a very heavy user of cpu and memory
and will fail if you have mem errors like you have.
Some things to try is entering bios and change auto settings on cpu voltage
giving it 0.5v more than default .
Set the memorys voltage to vendors max approved voltage
which for yours is 2.6v +/- 0.1v . So it's safe to set at 2.7v .
Set timings to cas 3 ,ras 3 ,trp 3 , tras 8 , CMD 2T.
Pushing it firmly down in the dimm socket , sometimes it's not all the way down there even if the plastic lockers snap in.
Disconnect all devices not needed for a windows install ,things can be added later.
Have only the hd that os is to be installed to , one cdrom , floppy , memory and
gfx card .
Disconnect USB case front connector (cause corruption and strange faults if
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His x800 IceQ II + MSI K8N Neo Platinum?

Do you guys think the Zalman 7000-alcu + His x800 IceQ II videocard will fit together on the MSI K8N Neo Platinum?
The cpu socket seem to be so close to the agp port....
Check the back of the videocard here:
http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showindex.php?t=28265&highlight=iceq
And mobo here:
http://www.tbreak.com/reviews/fullimage.php?image=7172

No one has tried this combination: MSI K8N Neo2, Zalman 7000-(AL)CU and HIS X800 IceQ II?
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Sappire pictures here:
http://www.bjorn3d.com/read.php?cID=675&pageID=926
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http://www.bjorn3d.com/read.php?cID=674&pageID=912
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MSI K8N Neo Platinum - CPU Cooler?

Hi there, this is my first post to the forum and hope that someone can help
Bascially I've just purchased a MSI K8N Neo Platinum mobo to use with an AMD 64 2800.
I'm wondering if I should use the stock CPU cooler or look to purchasing a cooler such as a Zalman? I want to keep the computer as quiet as possible.
I've recently read that it would be better to use the Cool and Quiet option with the stock CPU cooler instead?

Chris,
If you don't mind a used one, there are probably about a hundred thousand available ones from people in these forums who has upgraded their heatsinks, and that's about everyone
The problem is, we dont want to give them up. We bought the retail package with fan not because of the free heatsink/fan, but because of the 3 year warranty that you only get with said combo. To invoke the warranty, we'd have to return everything, including the heatsink/fan, so we hang on to it and let it collect dust.
So, for an aftermarket fan. If you don't plan to overclock, ever, the thermaltake silent boost K8 will do, although it is nowhere NEAR the 21dB that tt claims. They are known for shall we say, exaggerated claims. But it's certainly quieter than the stock HSF, and it's available everywhere.
Note that the "silent boost k8" is different from the "silent boost". The latter is for socket 462 I think.

MSI K8N Neo 4 CPU cooler is slowing down ?!

Hi everyone and HAPPY NEW YEAR TO ALL AND ALL THE BEST!!!
I have brand new MSI K8N Neo 4 mobo and something strange is going on. CPU cooler on Venice 3000+ s939 in BIOS is rotating on 2200 RPM, but when i start Win XP, Core center and Everest are showing only 1000 RPM. Cool'n'quiet is disabled in bios.
Is there some setting that I did'nt see or what?
Thanks for your help in advance.
Pufta.

Hi!
Thanks Hodgie_ns for your fast reply, but it was not set up in Core Center for Cool'n'quit to slow down, it was on user setting to maximum.
Problem resolved by connecting the CPU cooler on the other connector for SYS FAN for little time, then I connected back to the CPU FAN connector. Since then, it is working on 3000 RPM all the time. Funny?! Wird?! Bug?!
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- Can it take an extra (3rd) 512 stick of this ram?
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I have ran the Neo s754 model with 2 * crucial CT6464Z40B 512MB cas 3 modules and never had one single problem with the combination
of A64 GC version , mobo and RAM .
Three modules is tough on the single channel memory controller though , as it would have to deal with 6 banks
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K8N Neo Platinum nForce3 and ram

can K8N Neo Platinum run 3 memory dimms X 512MB DDR400 PC3200 at the same time.

Wouldn’t it be better to look at the AMD website for there list of
compatible Ram to use with the AMD64, because the MB Chipset
has 0% to do with the memory, it’s all controlled by the integrated
memory controller in the CPU.
I understand that MSI has tested many different brands and types
of DDR with the MSI K8N Neo Platinum, but to get the most optimal
performance wouldn’t one want to use what AMD recommends.
As for the integrated DDR memory controller in the AMD64, I was
reading a article at AMD, and it stated that the AMD64 supports
low latency Ram, so wouldn’t it be better to run the lowest latency
Ram that one could obtain.
This Ram is one of the lowest latency I found so far, the new
Corsair XMS 3200XL, with tight CL 2-2-2-5, 1T memory timings,
which uses the new Samsung TCCD Revision F’s, 4ns, memory
modules. The Samsung’s are one of the DDR DRAM Modules
that are validated by AMD to use with the AMD 64.
The review below, states they had 100% success using the new
Corsair XMS 3200XL in the nForce3-250, so I’m hoping that I will
have the same results, I really don’t want to RMA them.
Here is a review on the new: Corsair XMS 3200XL Memory
H2O Guru

*UPDATED 7/15/04* Complete guide to bioses, drivers, and needed files for the MSI K8N Neo Platinum

Complete newbie's guide to bioses, drivers, and needed files for the MSI K8N Neo Platinum:
Last Updated: Thursday July 15th, 2004
Bioses:
(In order of date released.)
1.1b3 - (Download)
- Pre-1.1, given to reviewers to use in their reviews and benchmarks.
- Less stable, but supposedly you get slightly better overclocks.
1.1 Official - (Download)
1. This is AWARD BIOS release
2. This BIOS fixes the following problems of the previous version:
- Memory always run DDR 200 when install single side DDR on DIMM2 & DIMM3.
- Windows 2000 can't format the RAID IDE HDD when plug in Promise 378 controller.
1.2b5 - (Download)
1.2b7 - (No Download Yet)
1.2b10 - (Download)
- First attempt to fix false temperature readings. Fixes it for some people with Newcastle cores and doesn't fix it for anybody with Clawhammer cores.
1.2b12 - (Download)
- Second attempt to fix false temperature readings. Fixes it for some people with Newcastle cores and some people with Clawhammer cores.
1.3b1 - (Download)
- Another attempt to fix temperature problems?
- Possibly fixes cold boot/power light issues?
1.2 Official - (Download)
1. This is AWARD BIOS release
2. This BIOS fixes the following problems of the previous version:
- System can't resume from S3 sometimes when install USB device.
- Support K8 Sempron CPU.
- Turn off keyboard LED in S3.
--Quick Guide for flashing BIOS, provided by MSI--
1. Create a MS-DOS boot diskette, then copy the the .exe and the bios file to the floppy disk. Both of these files can be found in the package you downloaded.
2. Press "Delete" and go to BIOS setup while computer bootup.
Check BIOS advanced features and see if BIOS flash write control is enabled
(This option must be enabled. If you can not find this setting, it means the BIOS can be
flashed.)
3. Boot from MS-DOS boot diskette and get a:\> prompt.
4. Type "", then press ENTER
5. The flash program will then ask "Do you want to save BIOS?", please press "N" for no. The when you see Press 'Y' to program or 'N' to Exit, please press "Y" to continue.
6. After flashing complete, remove floppy and reset the system .
7. Press DELETE or F1 when prompted at first reboot after flashing.
8. Load BIOS optimized defaults, then save settings and exits.
Drivers & Needed Files:
(Note: All these drivers are for Windows XP.)
Leaked Nvidia nForce3 Chipset Drivers Version 4.40
(Please use at your own risk, these are LEAKED drivers. Password for the .zip file is "ocworkbench rules". Also, you will need to rename the WinXP_2K folder in IDE to either WinXP or Win2K else the installer doesn't pick it up.) Thanks for the link Wonkanoby!
*NEW* Leaked Nvidia nForce3 Chipset Drivers Version 5.03
More leaked drivers? Seems some parts of the drivers are older and some are newer.
1. Windows XP Service Pack 1A (Web Install) -or- Windows XP Service Pack 1A (Full Install)
2. Microsoft DirectX 9.0b (Web Install) -or- Microsoft DirectX 9.0b (Full Install)
3. Nvidia nForce3 Chipset Drivers Version 4.24
4. AMD Athlon 64 Processor Driver Version 1.1.0.14
5. Nvidia Video Card Driver Version 56.72 -or- Omega Nvidia Video Card Driver Version v1.5303
(The Omega drivers are third party drivers optimized for gaming, most prefer these over the standard Nvidia drivers.)
5. ATI Video Card Driver Version 4.7 -or- Omega ATI Video Card Driver Version 2.5.51
(The Omega drivers are third party drivers optimized for gaming, most prefer these over the standard ATI drivers.)
6. Onboard Sound Driver (Realtek AC'97 Audio Codec) Version A3.61
It is HIGHLY reccomended that you install the drivers/needed files in the order listed above. Please note that there are two #5's because you either install one or the other depending on your video card, do not install both of them.
You will come across a problem here though. You can't install the chipset drivers without installing the Windows service pack and DirectX first, but the Windows service pack and DirectX installs need the internet to download files and you won't have working internet until you install the chipset drivers. Here's what I did to get around this. Instead of downloading the web install versions of Windows service pack and DirectX, download the full version and and put them along with all the other drivers on a backup hard drive or burn them to a CD, this way you will have all the drivers you need when it's time to install them and none of them will require the internet to download files.
Another note when installing drivers. Apparently the Nvidia chipset drivers also come with drivers for the onboard sound, but people seem to agree that the Realtek onboard sound drivers are better. When you are installing the Nvidia chipset drivers, just be sure to uncheck the box for sound drivers when it asks you which drivers you would like to install. Now you can safely install the Realtek drivers without any chance of conflicting sound drivers. Thanks for the tip Wonkanoby!

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Originally posted by RLiu818
Quote
Originally posted by Deviation56
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Originally posted by RLiu818
You CAN install the nforce drivers BEFORE installing SP1. The only requirement to install the nforce drivers is DX9.
So is SP1 still recommended to install before the nforce drivers?
The installer still reccomends to install it beforehand for full USB 2.0 functionality... I would have put what you said in there but I wanted to keep it as simple as possible.
oh. IIRC the installer just says USB 2.0 will be fully functional after SP1 is installed. So after you install SP1 you go into device manager and u click update driver and it will auto search and update the driver.
Simplicity-wise, i guess its pretty much equal. It might take less preparation to just copy DX9 full onto a CD and install that first, then nforce driver, then right away you have yoru internet connection.
but i dunno.. i guess i will try it your way this time when my RMA"d board comes.
i will be fomratting and doing a fresh install later on today and will let you know if i come across any problems

OC MSI K8N NEO-FSR

is there any problems with OC this mobo..
MSI K8N NEO-FSR MS-7030 NVIDIA nForce3 250GB 754
and can the cpu be OC without OC the ram to
Cheers Lads

you keep memory freq. in range by setup mem. index. e.g. for CPU HTT 250 with mem. index of 166, will produce memory freq. 200Mhz.

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