Msi K8N Neo with Athlon 64 3200

I just recieved the parts today 1x Msi K8N Neo Mobo and 64 3200 procesor, so far ive only been running it a few hours and allready i have had a lot of problems with it, first off the temp of my cpu is at 64oc when idol, and about 72oc on full load, I have the Coolermaster Hyper6 KHC-V81 heatsink with 2 mounted fans, and im sure thats more then enough to cool any proccessor?? Next up after restarting the computer the mouse/keyboard do not work when you get back into windows. i have no idea why tried all sorts of problems such as reinstalling drivers, Next up the board reads the default clock speed at 2.2ghz, am i wrong but isnt it meant to be 2.0ghz, both in bios and windows, it also says that my cpu has 512kb l2 cache when it is meant to have 1mb.
Needless to say i am not a happy bunny
if any1 has any ideas on what could be causing this please let me know as soon as possible before i throw my rig out the window
P.s The multiplier is on defualt, but it is 11x, isnt it soposed to be 200X 10??

As with the K8T800 board, MS products have been a thorn in the side. Try some cheap-o mouse and keyboard until you get your system stabilized. Make sure your BIOS settings accept OS2 and Plug 'n Play...turn off legacy support. Make note of all BIOS settings and which ones are enabled/disabled.....'cause we will be looking for your assistance on a lot of initial boot-up questions! Thanks very much =DNA=

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hi everyone
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maybe i,m wrong but could someone please tell me what the average reading would be for a motherboard and 3.5 chip.
thanks
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You were being asked a question in a funny way instead of slamming you directly. As you don't care to answer the question on what you were benchmarking with and the simple fact that there are hundreds of proggies that can be used in benchmmarking we can't answer you as it stands. However since you have taken an attitude about this rather than take a bit of ribbing and giving an answer as well as shouting by the use of all caps... You now have a warning and the thread is closed.
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hey guys,
i got a MSI K8N NEO Platinum
athlon 64 3400+
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sound blaster audigy 2 value
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https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?PHPSESSID=28e8b34c11c189f3cf4fd87517f09849&topic=76872.msg541977#msg541977
check this out m8, could be somerthing to do with it.
Also make sure you got latest drivers etc etc.
Try disabling the Nvidia/ati speed up setting in bios. hit shift + f2 alt + f3 I think in bios - brings up these options

MSI k8n neo (s754)

This weird, i've enabled dynamic overclocking and chosen "Captain" .. isnt this suppposed to increase the FSB? .. it's still 200 ..
msi k8n neo s754
a64 3200+

heya
the Dynamic Overlocking Technology is designed to overclock the cpu/fsb bus to cope with an increased load
i'm not sure what each of the "ranks" percentages are but
i think "commander" is 11%
therefore, when the cpu is under 100% load, DOT will increase ur FSB(HTT) by 11% to try n finish the job a little faster, i wouldnt recommend using DOT as it can be unstable for this reason
if ur running PC3200/DDR400 ram in ur pc at normal timings and have it set at Auto or 200 in bios, so its running 1:1 with HTT....if u use DOT, the memory will be overclocked as well to keep in sync with FSB(HTT).. now this will introduce new problems cos some DDR400 doesnt like being overclocked and will cause systems to hang or crash....i experimented tightening my RAM timings and cos its cheapo RAM i didnt get very far, too many applications were crashing
so i guess what i'm trying to say is, if u want to experiment with overclocking, i would highly recommend using the Cell Menu in the BIOS, its alot more friendly than just setting DOT to commander.
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i hope i didnt drone on too much
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hy,
i spend the whole day reading lots of threads about enabling cool&quiet but in my case nothing worked.
- Athlon 64
- MSI NEO PLATINUM
- BIOS 1.4
- ProcessorDriver 1.1.00
- C&Q enabled in Bios
- xp spII
The moment i try to switch to Minimal Powersavings the system immediately
freezes when i press ok.
If i could enable it, it might work, but i cant reach this level.
Any Suggestions? probably BiosBeta 1.5 will fix something?
thanx,
mike

huaaaa....
i postet as well in a german thread and there was a reply wich did it:
bios -> B6 did it.
http://forum.hardware.fr/hardwarefr/Hardware/-Topik-Unique-MSI-K8N-Neo-Platinum-Athlon-64-BIOS-1-40-Officiel-sujet-624644-1.htm
its a french side but now everything works works fine!
mike

K8N Neo 2 Athlon 64 3500+ dead ? Help me Please

Hello,
I bought 3 month ago an MSI K8N Neo 2 Athlon 64 3500+ and everything workd well until yesterday night
My pc was working and unraring some file for me, when I came back 5 min. later my pc was off ???
I tried to start him but the screnn stay black, I look the led and see that two led are red and read that the initialization processor is not working, I open the case and see that the ventillator of the processor isn't working as well as the one of the graphic card.
I tried to reset the bios but it doesn't help !
Please help me ! is my processor dead ??? I did no overloking I don't understant
Now I would like to be sure what is unworking properli Mother board or processor before sending it back.
Thanks in advance

Congratulation Guys
What I did is try again to start my computer (we never know) but still dead.
So how you talk to me about the power supply and I had nothing to do that trying everthing I can, I conncted my old one to my motherboard and startup. Ho surprise the processor fan and graphik card works again ! How my old power supply have no plug for processor I had to stop it and I tried to plug the normal power It works again
How is that possible It's very strange !
But now I was so afraid that my processor burned and my motherboard too
How to be sur that come from my power supply and also how to get it back to the shop if it's working now but I don't want to burn my computer
This power must be a good one It's a Thermaltake Xacer pure power 410W
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Okey here it comes..
I installed everything and all seemed to work okey, until i threw in the XP install cd and began my install..
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I have tried to change memory to another Kingston KVR400X64C3A/512 512Mb DDR PC3200 400MHz 184pin Unbuffered CL3 with no luck,
changed hdd, change gfx-card. change psu, removed all no-need pci-cards..
but still same error, i aint no expert so i might have missed something in bios or something :(
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Flashing bios with memory errors is a veeeeery bad idea .
Almost guarantied to ruin your bios chip with bad data block.
That this even is suggested with mem errors , well .
You need to resolve the mem errors before doing anything else.
The windows xp install routine is a very heavy user of cpu and memory
and will fail if you have mem errors like you have.
Some things to try is entering bios and change auto settings on cpu voltage
giving it 0.5v more than default .
Set the memorys voltage to vendors max approved voltage
which for yours is 2.6v +/- 0.1v . So it's safe to set at 2.7v .
Set timings to cas 3 ,ras 3 ,trp 3 , tras 8 , CMD 2T.
Pushing it firmly down in the dimm socket , sometimes it's not all the way down there even if the plastic lockers snap in.
Disconnect all devices not needed for a windows install ,things can be added later.
Have only the hd that os is to be installed to , one cdrom , floppy , memory and
gfx card .
Disconnect USB case front connector (cause corruption and strange faults if
USBOC pin is connected)

MSI K8N Neo Platinum with Vapochill Case problems - Help anyone. :)

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MSI K8N Neo Platinum -
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I have taken it back out and tested it again and it still works ok.
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Hi there,
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Let us know of the mem model number so we can help you further, because some of the memory modules from OCZ need alot of Volts to work stable, it can get to 3.0v.
Let us know the mem model e what PSU you have and Amps on it.
Be well....

Msi K8n Neo & Geil 3200

****Below is an old post*****
I have assembled a new pc and what has been happening is when I play games it crashes to desktop. I have tracked down the problem to ram timing. Here are the specs Gigabyte GA-K8NNXP AMD 3200+ Geil 2 times 512 GeIL Ultra PC3200 400MHz DDR, these are placed in slots 1 and 2 (I beleive they should be in slots 1 and 3) I have turned the ram clock back from 200 to 166 and no more game crashes, however I think that means I'm running the ram at 333. Could anyone give me the correct ram timings to run this ram at 400. And also provide me with any other adjustments I may need to make. When I manully change the settigs to the geil ram timmings press f10 and save, reboot the ram timings go back to auto. So I am sure there is something I am overlooking. Your help would be great.
Cheers Psychnurse
*****New post*****
an update...I got so sick of this issue I brought a new mobo a K8N Neo MSI....and guess what......if I leave the settings on 200 the games crash and my reboots at odd times, under clock the ram to 166 and bingo no worries stable as.
I'm no guru on timings and over/under clocking but this is crazy.
What are the magic settings to get stability on 200 (ddr400) with this GeIL Ultra PC3200 400MHz DDR. Surely all these pc builders now the settings.
If there is anyone out there using a K8n Neo with Geil ultra pc3200 400mhz......let me know the big secret.
Also have a read of "games crash thread" there must be a f alot of people out there with this problem.
I think its a voltage issue.......got games running for 26 mins at 2.8volts...then crash....If some out there has Geil 3200 ultra with a MSI K8N mobo i would love to know all your settings..Cheers
AMD643200+
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If youve not already got it d/load & intall CPU-Z version 1.27.
also check out the Geil USA
Open CPU-Z & select the SPD Tab Select the Memory Slots where your memory is located. The bottom of the screen will show the SPD Timings Table. These are the values Giel have specified as the Timings, it is these that are loaded if timings are left on auto.
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Then it doesnt matter if they are exposed, as long as they are ok.
A good tip, which got when i was removing my backplate, is to use a blow dryer to heat it up and the remove it with your fingers. That way youll also notice if it gets to hot
The glue gets sticky at blow drier temps. And pls, dont singe the MB with your blow dryer, you only have to make it hot, and if you cant touch it, how can you remove it with your fingers?
I guess theres no way of telling if you have a serious prob and no way to tell if your cpu will be ok. I guess you could (?) try and start it wíthout anything (cpu, mems) but a PSU, and then, if it (and maybe the PSU) goes "!Pfsssssss!" or "bang!", youll now you will have to replace it.
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is this card incompatible with the msi k8n neo-2 motherboard?
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Thats not what I read (assuming this is the same correct model)
420W double unit
DC O/P Load Max
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+3.3V 28 Amp.
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-12V 0.8 Amp.
+5VSB 2 Amp.
Agreed that one is 420W, but is that it or not?

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