MSI K8N NEO3-F Socket 754 NVIDIA nForce4 ATX

I must not have stated my problem clearly. When I built my computer I turned on the power from the back, and the case lit up. (power switch on PSU) I was excited because this was my first build. When the bios popped up, it did not detect my hard drive. I then shut down the computer. I resat the ATA cables heading to my hard drive. When I went to turn the computer back on, the PC wouldn't start. I tried resitting everything on my Computer. I tried using only one RAM, resat video card, CPU, and even tried resetting the cmos.
Eventually I found that if I pull the lithium battery from my motherboard, my computer will turn on. The computer will run without the battery, or if I resit the battery. The battery on a motherboard only deals with the bios and the time and such. It doesn't make any sense at all. I am going to test my powersupply tomarrow and then my video card on a laiter date. I have tried replacing the battery. Getting around this problem wass not hard, I have installed games that look phenomal. I was succesfully able to install my OS also. Resetting the bios on every load up is not fun.
My other recent problem has been with the video card though(this is why im going to test with another VC). When I resit the battery after shut down, and turn my PC back on, the Video Card over powers it self. For three minutes the monitor wont recognize my card and my card pushes as if it was running DOOM3. Finally it steadies out and the monitor turnes on. Please help me out if you have any good info for me. I'll try anything at this point. I'm not computer illeterate.
I am an Intern with TWC's IT departement. I am also going to school for computer science. The A++ side of computing I had never learned.
.......Every where I go with this problem, no one seems to know the answer. No one will even throw ideas at me. Someone please help me out
Heres my PC:
ASPIRE ATX-AS520W
MSI K8N NEO3-F Socket 754 NVIDIA nForce4 ATX
AMD Athlon64 3200+
Sapphire Radeon X800Pro
Samsung Spinpoint 160GB
2*512 MB Crucial Memory

MaYBE I'm not really understanding the problem here...Are you trying to use the switch on the PSU to begin the boot process? If so, hopefully, you should continue to have trouble doing that, it's not supposeed to work that way. If the computer starts with the power switch on the PSU there might be a problem with the CMOS jumper, jbat1, being in the wrong position...continue to post your changes and progress and someone will continue to help you, there's a lot of good heads around here, but there's a lot of guys with problems too...add as much of your configuration info to your signature as you can find out, that will help us help you as well...

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Quote from: duffyone on 31-March-05, 11:54:15
Now... don't LOL, but there is a reason I picked the 3200+ instead of the 3000+, but I can't remember why???
Probably because the 3000+ only has a 9x maximum multiplier, whereas the 3200+ will go to 10x.
2600MHz at 9x means a FSB of 289MHz and ram at 289MHz for best performance. Will your ram do 289MHz? Of course you *can* run your memory and fsb async, but I prefer not to.
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Wich is the last beta bios from my Msi k8n Neo Platinum (socket 754) ?
And where download?
Thanks

A thread here , from when 1.56 appeared:
MSI K8N Neo Plat Beta Bios 1.56
and when 1.55 appeared:
New Bios For MSI K8N Neo Platinum [ 1.55]
Seems to me that the 1.5x series were focused on chipset timings and ram .
Another thing is that i can boot from a usb pen with this one .(never got it to work with others) .
Beta bioses don't come with a changelog , they leak out . So any complete
list of changes is not possible to provide.

K8N Neo4 Platinum Socket 939 Nvidia nForce4 Ultra ( LAN Questions )

I have started to purchase my parts for a new build. I will be using the MotherBoard in the Subject line. My present system is in my signature. I have a Wireless Internet Service which has a small Yagi antennae on the roof which is pointed at a tower which is 3.1 miles away. My present setup, I have a GigaFast WF747-UI Wireless USB Router pluged into my computer. On the wall, I have the D-Link DL 524 Wireless Router which is hard wired to the antennae. I have the NVIDIA nForce MCP network controller on the system I now have disabled.
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Thanks for any advice: Pop's

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On the new setup, can I just disabled all of the onboard LANs and not even load any of the software for them??
this has been answered many times in the thread.
If you are not going to use them; disable in bios, windows won't find them, so won't show (at all) in device manager and you won't be prompted for 'new found hardware'. Therefore no need to load the drivers for them.
If you subsequently want to use them them obviously will have to enable in bios, then you will be prompted for 'new found hardware' then you will have yellow explanation mark in device manager until driver(s) loaded.

MSI K8T NEO-FIS2R Socket 754 VIA K8T800 ATX AMD Motherboard

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Well the burning smell could be dust or some such as this has been sitting for a while. However I would start with a visual inspection to see what the problem is. Check and see if any wires look toasted, pull the cards and even the MB and look them over carefully. If you don't see anything then set the MB out on some cardboard and just hook up what is needed to post. Retry it and see if you can watch during that inmitial stage to see what is happening. Worst case take the whole rig to a tech and have them look it over if you are concerned with risking any problems. Safty first always.

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Last time I bought 2 things:
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PS1. sorry for my english
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Quote from: kakarocht on 05-February-06, 09:59:11
Gives more specs / details on your hardware especially on your PSU!! I'm worried that your psu problem as it need more power in order to boot up. Regards.
PROCESOR AMD SEMPRON 3000+
MSI K8N NEO3-F
ELIXIR 512MB DDR400
DVD-REC LITEON SHM-165P6S
WD CAVIAR 80GB (WD800JB)
MSI NX6200LE TC 128MB
I tried with 2 PSU
1- Modecone 400W
2- Chiftec 420W
With both don't boot
but mobo + NX6600GT with Modecon PSU work fine.

Is the MSI NX6600LE TD256E incompatible with MSI K8N Neo3 mainboard ?

Hello people,
I have a very ugly problem here. I have an MSI K8N Neo3 mainboard here, that with PCI Express and AGP slots.
It was working fine for a while, so I dont think the mainboard itself is bad.
Originally, an Inno3D Geforce 6200 with Turbo Cache, was installed on that computer. However, in the past week the owner buyed a copy of Battlefield 2 to have some fun, he also buyed an MSI NX6600LE TD256E PCI Express graphic card to replace the Inno3D Geforce 6200 with Turbo Cache.
I got that PC here today, in order to install the new MSI Graphic card, and also install the game. Now comes the ugly part: I cannot get that card to work in that computer, and I don't know why.
At first I thought that the card was defective, so I took it out of that PC and installed it on my own PC, and the card works in my PC (see signature), and my PC's graphics card works fine on the other PC (the K8N Neo3). Even the old Inno3D card works fine.
Since the card works fine in my PC (I've used it while writing this post), and my PC's graphic card works fine in the other PC, as well as the old Inno3D card, the only thing left for me to think is that the NX6600LE TD256E card is not compatible with the K8N Neo3 board, but that seems too strange for me.
Can any one here tell me if there's some kind of compatibility problems between the MSI K8N Neo3 mainboard and the MSI NX6600LE TD256 Graphic card ?
Any help is welcome,

Update:
The card is compatible with the board. What was incompatible with the card, was a little chip in the board (fried) which I didn't noticed during the first inspection of the board.
Curious thing is that it accepted other cards and not the NX6600LE, but in the end, not even my own NX6600 card, or any other PCIe card worked at all. I guess the little chip suffered some kind of damage due to power problems in the place where the computer was. With this in mind, an electrical technician will be sent to the place to verify the electrical installations for problems of any kind, so we can correct them and prevent future problems.
Back to the board thing, a new K8N Neo4-F board has taken the place of the semi-toasted K8N Neo3 board. Also, and thanks to the hibrid design of the K8N Neo3, we will still be able to use it. The PCIe slot is dead for sure, but the AGR Slot still works well, so we'll use it for traditional desktop aplications, such as word processors, internet surfing, e-mail, document scanning and printing, etc, etc, etc...
Well, that's all. I just wanted you guys to know; so no one keeps looking for an an answer to this (now solved) mystery. For me this case is now closed, so if no one is interested into it, Admins... feel free to delete the entire thread
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Maxtor 120 GB SATA disk (6L120M0)
Sony DVD-RW drive
Anyway, I wanna say thanks for the quick answers...

Thats not what I read (assuming this is the same correct model)
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+5V 42 Amp.
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-5V 0.5 Amp.
-12V 0.8 Amp.
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nice forum! I hope you guys can help me out.
here's the deal.
I am what one would call a computer expert, but unfortunately I seem to miss something in this particular matter, unlike in other cases, which is very frustrating.
I personally own loads of MSI boards, most of which for amd64 systems, so I have experience with the drivers and utilities and I know how to get these systems up and running with cool 'n' quiet, except for this particular system. I know the cpu can't be to blame for this, since it supports cool 'n' quiet. I also have owned some other boards from other manufacturers (also amd64), so I'd like to think that I am aquainted with the technology.
msi k8n neo3 motherboard:
- bought this one three days ago
- came with bios version 1.05x (!!!)
- updated the bios to 1.5x (amongst others because of the sempron support)
- enabled the coolnquiet feature (OC options were enabled, settings to optimized, captain etc. etc. (what I usually do)).
- installed the drivers from the cd; the .inf driver was also installed (I saw a screen confirming that).
- put energy management to minimalized setting
- rebooted
and... nothing! well, except for the normal speed it should not be running on at 0% cpu load (1607 MHz).
tried installing the standard amd driver from the amd website; also nothing... I did come across this problem once before and then I had to conclude that the problem could be resolved by installing another amd a64 driver package that came from another manufacturer's motherboard cd (which should not be the problem of course, because this driver (just as the cpu) should be generic).
configuration:
- this board @ bios 1.5x
- amd 2800+ sempron (latest model) + boxed cooler
- 2x samsung ddr400 512mb (also tested it with corsair modules)
- dvd-drive
- couple of hard drives connected to pata/sata, no raid enabled.
- winxp-32 us. SP2
apart from this particular problem, the system works just fine.
who can help me out?

Thanks for your replies guys.
Quote from: syar2003 on 09-January-06, 23:22:40
Appearently only Sempron 3000+ and higher support CnQ .
Some lower models ildes down to as litte as 14W so CnQ don't make much sense in those low power models.
Also if the multiplier is locked downwards CnQ can't work (E.g can you run 7*200 , and make it stick).
Well, appearently this specific model does support it, I know this because it says so on the box... so why isn't it working then?
For the sake of the argument, what if this CPU did support CnQ, what am I doing wrong then?
What I also can't figure out is why these CPU's, according to your statement, should be doing something like 14W in idle mode, whereas these cpu's basically aren't that different from normal amd64 cpu's, except for the support of x86-AMD64 and having a larger cache ; these fully featured amd64 cpu's need something like 80-90W in stressed mode, running on their normal clock speeds and do something like 32W when in CnQ-mode. How is that possible? Because of newer generation production processes with less nm-technology or something like that?

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Quote from: Deathstalker on 27-March-05, 22:51:26
Tydyt,
The question was about the Socket 939, which only work with the Neo2 and Neo4. If you have a Socket 754 it only work with the Neo and Neo3.
Take Care,
Richard
I think KIJ is talking about the incomplete support of 90nm Sempron . He uses a 90nm SP 2800+ , but cannot see the adjusting option
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can any one tell me how to install cool n quiet on k8n neo3.
is core center enough to do the job of cool n quiet.
Is my board is compatible with cool n quiet
I am using AMD athlon 2800+ and k8n neo3with MSI FX5200 VGA card

Refer to page 1-9 of your manual.
Enable the feature in the bios.
Select "minimal power management" in Windows power schemes.
You don't need to install core center for it to work, it just lets you visually know it's working. AMD also has a small utility to visuallize the CPU throttlling.
To allow the CPU fan to automatically speed up or down, enable "smart CPU fan target" in the bios.
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I am planning to build AMD 64 system, and that socket 754 is suitable to my budjet.
But is that board easy to overclock? i have been thinking to get an AMD Athlon 64 3000+ prosessor on it... any better ideas near that price?
And what about those athlon's multiplier, can it be chanced lower from bios or is it locked?

If you don't need the extras like firewire, 4 sata and 7:1 audio then get the Neo-FSR. I have both the Platinum and FSR and the FSR smokes my Platinum. No problems running 250 1:1 or 300htt using the divider. The FSR is also newer than the Plat. were there is no need to set agp bus at 67 or 68 to get your max OC, leave it at 66 and enjoy.
My FSR also seems more friendly to different types of ram chips, like Samsung TCCD, Micron 5G or Hynix chips.
Also the price of just over $100 makes it a nice buy. If you order one I suggest any ram with Samsung TCCD chips will give you the best performance. Note I have not tried any bh-5 chips on this board.
Also you could save the extra $20 and put it towards a 3200+, I say this cause the 11x might come in handy instead of the 10x on the 3000+ to achieve max OC on your cpu. Newegg had some nice 3200+ NC(512) CG cores that will do 2.6 on air pretty easy. I have one and does 2.75 stable under my waterblock.

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Hi I just ordered the following from overclockers.co.uk and wanting some confirmation that the memory will be compatible with this Mother board
Corsair 1GB DDR Value Select PC3200 Kit (2x512MB) and MSI K8T Neo-FIS2R
Thanks
Kevin

kevtucker,
I'm running the same setup up as you and have not experienced any ram related problems so far. I'm happy with it and it is very stable.
Every ram has different settings. For the corsair 1gb value select (2x512mb) you must make sure you use these settings for the best results:
put them in slots 1 and 3.
use the settings 2.5-3-3-8
set the ddr voltage 2.7
I got that information straight from the official corsair forums:
http://www.houseofhelp.com/forums/showindex.php?t=24410
Good luck.

MSI K8N Neo3-FSR Support Semptron Processors?

http://msicomputer.co.uk/products.aspx?product_id=703542
It states support only for Athlon 64 processors.
But how about AMD Semptron processors? Especially new Palermo (90nm) ones.
AMD Sempron™ 2600+ (1600 Mhz, 128 Kb L2 Cache)
AMD Sempron™ 2800+ (1600 Mhz, 256 Kb L2 Cache)
AMD Sempron™ 3000+ (1800 Mhz, 128 L2 Cache)
AMD Sempron™ 3100+ (1800 Mhz, 256 L2 Cache)
AMD Sempron™ 3300+ (2000 Mhz, 128 L2 Cache)
This MB would give a nice upgrade path thanks to AGR-slot. But without support to Semptron processors you are stuck with 130nm Athlon 64 processors.
If someone could tell/find out is there already support for Semptrons or is it planned in next BIOS update, please let me know. Thanks.

Thank you very much.
I will pass this information forward to one other forum.
Edit: Actually I should have found that information by myself too... But noooooo... I had to be a lazy bastard.
I might be actually buying this motherboard myself along with Semptron processor. Although originally I was just suggesting this for someone who had old AGP (Radeon 7500) card and wanted to update CPU+MB+Mem now and PCI-E Graphics card later. Anyone know is this a recent overclocking board?

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