MSI K8N Neo4-F booting issues

Ok, well I'm a n00b and this is only my second build. When I first put everything together, the system started right up and I was able to reboot no problem to upgrade the OS etc. However when I gave it to my parents, it started having some problems booting. Sometimes it boots up right away (if it's been off for a while)...however if you restart it, the fans run, but nothing happens for several minutes. Then all of the sudden it beeps and starts booting like nothing is wrong! So while it's sitting there doing nothing, I checked the D-bracket and it looks like it's sitting on the processor initialization:
MSI K8N Neo4-F running Bios version is 1.9 - the only setting I changed was removing the logo
Windows 2000 SP3 which I updated to 4
AMD 64 3700 +
Power Supply - Antec smart power 2.0 500 watts
liteon DVD burner - IDE primary master
a single 250 GB SATA seagate hard drive which is partitioned into 2- IDE 3rd master
2 sticks of 1 GB Cosair Value Select
ASUS EN6200TC256 - Geforce 6200TC 64MB 256MB PCIe
I did try reading through the forums first. I'm not sure if I should clear the CMOS or flash the bios. At this point I guess I kind of lack the confidence to make a decision due to lack of experience and the fact that it's not my computer I'm messing with. So guys, can you help a girl out? Any advice is much appreciated

Quote from: bjk1 on 27-March-06, 22:22:19
Hello Jewels,
have a look at this thread: https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=80294.0
Maybe, it's the solution to your problem.
Bye.
Your link to the other thread was enlightening. A couple of things. My father did install a card reader. However, I'm unable to find those particular settings in the bios. My father also has logitech's mx3000 wireless keyboard and mouse hooked up. I unhooked the little reciever it came with and hooked up a standard keyboard and mouse, and what do you know, it boots fine. Which explains why I had no jproblems when I set the computer up initially. I'm sure he's going to want me to find a way to use them though.

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MSI K8N NEO4-F
x2 512mb Corsair Xtra Low Latency 2-2-2-5
VisionTek x850XT
Creative Audigy 2 Platinum w/ Live Drive
(1) WD Raptor 10k rpm 74gb (SATA)
(1) Maxtor 300gb (SATA)
(1) Maxtor 200gb (IDE)
(1) Samsung 52x32x52 Burner
Windows XP Pro
Recently built system but I'm having SATA performance trouble. Let's start from the boot process. Sometimes when booting, the system will hang while detecting drives, and not detect my 300GB sata drive. A simple reset will sometimes fix this. If allowed to continue to boot, a blue windows XP error screen briefly flashes and the system reboots itself. Going into the bios and trying to autodetect the drive causes a long hang and no detection.
Moving into windows if everything seems to detect alright, sometimes the 300GB drive seems to function perfectly well, and for as long as my system stays up. Other times I'll go to open some sort of media on the drive (like video), and it will run rediculously slow, skipping and barely running.
I tried replacing the SATA cables, thinking that maybe they were bent too much or perhaps just bad, but after replacing them the problem seems to persist. This problem at first seemed confined to the 300GB, but my last boot to windows was crawling and anything i opened didnt respond, as the OS is housed on the raptor. So now it seems both drives are capable of this problem.
Does anyone have any incite?

Hi mjc2264,
It's the series 10 300gb maxtors that have been giving pps some issues not just with msi but all AMD64 Nvidia chipsets, its unusual to have Maxtor9 ?? give problems.
A number of things you might try:-
1) Bios Standard Cmos Features try changing the Access Mode for your 300Gb to Large instead of Auto.
2) Detection is sometimes Worse due to the Pata channel issues. If using the Nvidia IDE Drivers ensure your
Maxtor 200gb (IDE)
Samsung 52x32x52 Burner
are Jumpered explicitly as Master/Slave the NV drivers don't like CS (cable select). Ideally have 200gb on IDE1 & Samsung on ide 2.
3) If 2) gives no change Or if you feel the need Roll back The IDE drivers & try the MS Default ones
Click update driver on the Nvidia Pata driver tab in properties.
Choose install from a specific location
Select dont choose , i will choose the driver
Then select standard dual channel pci controller which is the XP 1
4) If Windows detects problems with drive access r/w errors it downgrades the drive access mode. If you have been having issues check in device manager IDE Ata/Atapi Controllers Right click properties on each tab & check access mode it s/be Serial ATA DMA for SATA & I think Ultra DMA 5 (or 6??) for Pata HD. If you find any down graded Set them back & XP will ask to reboot.
Luck

K8N Neo4-FX Boot Issue

Hey all,
Im new to this forum so forgive me if I do not address my problem to you in the correct fashion.
Im running Windows XP Pro SP2 on a K8N Neo4-FX board with the NVidia Geforce 6600 GT and an AMD 64 3600+.
I have this issue were when I boot for the first time in the day, my computer locks up when trying to load into Windows, it does not load any Icons but you can see the desktop. After a reboot, in an attempt to get into Windows again, it now locks up on the Motherboard bootscreen for a random amount of time, usually atleast 3 minutes. I disabled the boot screen so that it would show me what its trying to load behind the Motherboard boot screen and it gets stuck on trying to load/check the harddrives. Eventually it realises there all there and boots into Windows without issue. It usually requires 2 reboots before you can get into Windows. Now If I Boot up for the first time in the day and leave the computer at the login screen of Windows for about 5 to 8 minutes and then attempt to login and boot Windows, it hass no drama's. Interesting huh? It gets better.
I believe a secondary issue is tied into this as well. Once Windows is booted and I try to watch any type of media, all I get is a blank outline of where the video should be playing, sound working and playing correctly. This effects all media except Movies (.mov) which work on all occasions. No matter how many times you reboot, it does not allow you to watch any media, only hear it. However if you shutdown and boot again all media works without issue.
Now ill give you a minute to soak that in...
My original thought was, "Dodgy install of Windows", so I formatted and reinstalled a COMPLETELY NEW installation, even differant OS(to XP Pro from Home Ed) and I still have the same issues.
This leads me to the conclusion that the Board/Card is faulty. However if any of you experts or any other people can shed any light or similar experiences on this, it would be much appreciated!
Thank you,
If you want anymore info MSG me.
Sadist

Quote from: Sadist on 06-August-06, 23:00:40
Hey all,
Im new to this forum so forgive me if I do not address my problem to you in the correct fashion.
Im running Windows XP Pro SP2 on a K8N Neo4-FX board with the NVidia Geforce 6600 GT and an AMD 64 3600+.
I have this issue were when I boot for the first time in the day, my computer locks up when trying to load into Windows, it does not load any Icons but you can see the desktop. After a reboot, in an attempt to get into Windows again, it now locks up on the Motherboard bootscreen for a random amount of time, usually atleast 3 minutes. I disabled the boot screen so that it would show me what its trying to load behind the Motherboard boot screen and it gets stuck on trying to load/check the harddrives. Eventually it realises there all there and boots into Windows without issue. It usually requires 2 reboots before you can get into Windows. Now If I Boot up for the first time in the day and leave the computer at the login screen of Windows for about 5 to 8 minutes and then attempt to login and boot Windows, it hass no drama's. Interesting huh? It gets better.
I believe a secondary issue is tied into this as well. Once Windows is booted and I try to watch any type of media, all I get is a blank outline of where the video should be playing, sound working and playing correctly. This effects all media except Movies (.mov) which work on all occasions. No matter how many times you reboot, it does not allow you to watch any media, only hear it. However if you shutdown and boot again all media works without issue.
Now ill give you a minute to soak that in...
My original thought was, "Dodgy install of Windows", so I formatted and reinstalled a COMPLETELY NEW installation, even differant OS(to XP Pro from Home Ed) and I still have the same issues.
This leads me to the conclusion that the Board/Card is faulty. However if any of you experts or any other people can shed any light or similar experiences on this, it would be much appreciated!
Thank you,
If you want anymore info MSG me.
Sadist
The problem is most likely with your HardDrives not the MB...

Booting problem MSI k8n neo4

Hello. When I first made the computer I was a having a simular problem however now I can't fix it. When it gets to the DMI pool it doesn't read the HD instead it says boot from cd: NO DISK FOUND INSERT SYSTEM DISK. Originaly I would set the boot priority to my ide hard drive(which doesn't have an OS) and it would load the OS which is on my WD sata Hard Drive. I've tried everything I can think of. Help!!!!! Thanks
AMD Athlon 64 3200+
MSI k8n neo4
1 gig dual channel ram
Western digital 120g sata HD
Western Digital 8g IDE HD
Radeon 700 Video Card

bryant_4christ,
Take the comp to 1 HD and one Optical Drive, then run the install with the CD, when Windows first starts, hit the F6 when it tells you to and load the Drivers from the Floppy. The continue with the install, if you do not want to lose any data, make sure you tell it to use the current partition and to keep the files intact on the Format Screen, you do not want to format.
Also make sure you have the controller turned on in the BIOS for the SATA Drive and that it is in the Boot Order.
Take Care,
Richard

New build: MSI K8N Neo4 Platinum + maxtor 300gb = problem?

Got these 2 products included in a order:
MSI K8N Neo4 Platinum nForce4 Ultra (Socket 939)
Maxtor DiamondMax Plus 10 NCQ 300GB
While checking up on the MB on the MSI site, I noticed a version of the bios (1.2) that says 'support for 300gb maxtor drives'
That's the same HD one I have coming with my order >.<
If the MB I get hasn't got that version of the bios already installed will I have trouble installing the drive?!
I downloaded the bios and it says in the readme not to install it from a floppy disk, so I guess you need a system up and running to make that update in the 1st place. No Idea how to go about this, if the need arises.

Quote from: Supershanks on 19-May-05, 21:45:00
Hi drjugears,
Welcome to the forum.
Many people are runnimg ok anyway as dope says.
But it's not an issue you can update the bios via floppy b4 connecting the maxtor.
See Flashing the BIOS for Users using NON FAT file system This is a guide written by msi. Strictly speaking if you folow the instructions you aren't flashing from a floppy the actual update is done on a virtual drive in memory.
if you need a floppy boot disc see Why no floppy for bios flash?
luck with build
Thanks very much for the welcome and info.
Unfortunately I'll have to wait a while to see...I installed everything....but need some adapter for the 6pin connecter on the ATI card. The power supply came with some 8 pin one. So I need a 4 to 6 pin adapter. Doubt If I'll find one local, so will probably have to wait until monday now to try it out.

MSI K8N Neo4-F Problems

I'm on my very first build and I'm running into problems. When I power up, all the fans spin up properly and the D-Link LED's go through the usual settings but it gets stuck on the combination that the manual translates into "Initializing Floppy Drive Controller - This will initializing Floppy Drive and controller." The D-Link LED's just hang there and I've left it alone for a couple minutes and it still wouldn't budge. On the screen, sometimes I can see the POST message and other times I see nothing at all on the screen from the various times I've restarted the computer. Any idea why it's hanging on this certain combination and not booting me to the BIOS setup screens? These are my system specs...thanks:
MSI K8N Neo4-F Socket 939 NVIDIA nForce4 ATX AMD Motherboard
AMD Athlon 64 3500+ Venice
ZALMAN CNPS7000B-AlCu Heatsink
Antec TRUEPOWERII TPII-380 ATX12V 380W Power Supply
OCZ Performance Series 1GB (2 x 512MB) 184-Pin DDR SDRAM DDR 400 (PC 3200)
Western Digital Caviar SE WD800JD 80GB 7200 RPM Serial ATA150 Hard Drive
Leadtek 6600GT

I take that into consideration! But as hardware goes, no two are exactly the same. But let's not focus on that, as I believe it could be problems elsewhere.
Posted by: Talannon
Hi!
First, the problem is I made this computer for a friend and when I boot the computer it always freeze at startup. I hear the normal bip when you start the computer then I see the first screen where it says to hit del to enter SETUP but it freeze there. I can't even go into BIOS. I have 2x512 MB in dual channel and when I remove one I can usually be able to go into the bios, then once there I check if everything is there by default ( I already reset cmos ) and it looks good then I reboot and it freeze again. I really don't know what to do...
But I will tell you the whole story. First I get the computer and at first boot I get no video signal. I see that I forgot to put the spacer between MoBo and the case. Then I fix that, comp boot I go into bios. I made another error by setting the FSB speed at 400 mhz because I read that it was going at 400 (I forgot that it was 200 x 2) so I reboot and I get nothing. I reset the cmos by pressing the button then i can get into bios.
From there I changed the boot order and I make it so MSI doesn't show his logo when you boot but you get the POST instead. I exit and save then I start getting that problem... Since then I am not able to go into BIOS unless I play with the memory module. Another thing is when I can't get into BIOS I watch the 4 LEDs on the USB thing you add to the MoBo (definition here http://www.msicomputer.com/support/sup_tshoot.asp#1_3 scroll down a bit). When I can't get into BIOS I get a combination (1 and 3 red) saying "testing base and Extended Memory, Testing base memory from 240k to 640K and extended memory above 1MB using various patterns" and when I changed the memory and I get into the bios (2 red) I get " Initializing Floppy Drive Controller, This will initialize Floppy Drive and controller". I got that from the book that came with the board.
The comp is:
MSI K8N Neo4-F
Athlon 64 3200+
MSI NX6600 TD 256 FX6600 PCI-E
Antec SLK1650 MINI TOWER CASE 350W
Kingston 1024 MB DDR400 Dual KVR
Maxtor 120Gb S-ATA
If anyone can help I would appreciate it! Thank you!
Posted by: Talannon
I will add that I tested the ram on another computer and it works fine. Also, when I only have 1 module of ram installed he start to detect the ide drive and sata HD but when It get to the floppy it fail. From there I can go in the bios but when I restart he won't even start detecting stuff he will only freeze after he wrote the memory testing line and then I can't do nothing... or I can hit continue and it even got started with the windows xp install but it crashed, it didn't take long. Reboot and crash at verifying DMI pool data or something like that after I hit continue again after detect floppy fail.
I tried resetting the cmos then reboot and it said that my config was in overcloaking mode and to reset it on the bios... But there was nothing to change. Also tried to continue there but it stop at Verifying DMI Pool Data.
The bios installed by default is v 1.3, which is the only version there's not on the msi website... strange
Anyway I pretty much said all I could, hope someone could help but I have a feeling that the MoBo as problem...
Posted by: keymaker
hmm......try takin out all of thec computer parts out of the computer case and this time only reseat the following devices: case, motherboard, cpu, ram, and videocard.
also try replacing the floppy cable and see if the computer will be able to detect the floppy this time. good luck
Posted by: Talannon
It still freeze the same way with only cpu ram and video card on mobo...
Posted by: zach1288
Try leaving your battery out longer, Some CMOS batteries can take up to 8 hours to clear.
Posted by: linderman
Welcome to TSF:
two items for consideration
A) what is your power supply and specs / this is by FAR the most underated overlooked component that plays such a vital role / the generics PSU just plain cant cut the mustard / they rely on cheap price to lure sales not performance / it doesnt take much of a fluctuation in power to send the newer systems baulking.
B) download and run memtest86.com on your memory modules / sounds like you may have a trouble maker there. Test them one at a time first / then as a pair
please post back with your findings
regards
joe
Posted by: Talannon
It could still play a role if I go back in bios and the settings seem to be back at normal? (like the FSB at 200 instead of 400 mhz like I tried to change at first.
edit: Power supply is a 350W smart Power by Antec
Posted by: Tumbleweed36
Hi,
An Antec is a great power supply, but frankly, don't think a 350 of anything is big enough to handle what you have. Even an Antec, you probably would need a minimum of a 450 to 480 with a very strong amperage rating. Antec and Enermax is where good power supplies are made if the wattage is what you need. That is the first place I would look after the memory thing is checked.
Posted by: Talannon
So... I made the test with the ram with this computer and the ram seems to have no problem at all.
So I guess I should try with a better power supply? But even a 350W with only the motherboard, cpu/fan, ram and video card would still not be enough to run it? Because I still have problem while running only that... Before I go out and buy a good power supply I would like to make sure it could be the source of the problem.
BTW, thank you all for the help so far, I hope we can find the problem :(
Posted by: Tumbleweed36
Hi,
If you have a Best Buy nearby, go find a good power supply and if it is not the problem, take it back or return it. That way, it would not be an expensive venture that might not solve the problem. Just be careful how you deal with the packaging so you can return it if it does not help. That sounds like the best solution at this time.
Posted by: Talannon
Ok, one other I will add is I noticed a trend. If I start the computer I can usually go all the way and start windows installation but it will stop working right after I hit enter to actually start windows installation. If I reset it will always hang at the beginning and unable to even get into the BIOS...
If I put the ram in dual channel setting it won't even start on first startup. But if it's on single channel it will at least let me go to the bios and such (but never recognized the floppy). Dual channel take more juice to run?
With this in mind is it possible that the mobo and/or cpu still be the cause of the problem?
Anyway I think I will try to get a power supply of at least 450W to test it. Just for testing purpose, can I get any power supply even if it's not antec or enermax as long as it has high voltage? I can test it and if it's working I can always return it and go buy a real power supply from antec or enermax where there is one.
Posted by: ginger6
I dont think it is your power supply, the power supply you have should handle what you have got no problem, the problem will be your memory...... are the 2 memory sticks you have identical, ie: same manufacturer, same speed, same chips on the board..... to run in dual channel mode you need both sticks to be exactly identical otherwise you will have problems.
What brand is the memory, if it is a cheap brand then you may have compatibilty problems.
Have you run memtest86 when both sticks are inserted but not in dual channel mode?
Kevin
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Posted by: Tumbleweed36
Quote:
Originally Posted by Talannon
Ok, one other I will add is I noticed a trend. If I start the computer I can usually go all the way and start windows installation but it will stop working right after I hit enter to actually start windows installation. If I reset it will always hang at the beginning and unable to even get into the BIOS...
If I put the ram in dual channel setting it won't even start on first startup. But if it's on single channel it will at least let me go to the bios and such (but never recognized the floppy). Dual channel take more juice to run?
With this in mind is it possible that the mobo and/or cpu still be the cause of the problem?
Anyway I think I will try to get a power supply of at least 450W to test it. Just for testing purpose, can I get any power supply even if it's not antec or enermax as long as it has high voltage? I can test it and if it's working I can always return it and go buy a real power supply from antec or enermax where there is one.
Hi,
Before you go out and get another power supply, you need to make sure you have everything hooked up correctly.
Try flipping the floppy cable over and see if the BIOS recognizes it. That is a common mistake that all of us make from time to time. The red stripe (pin 1) goes toward the power plug on that one and it is opposite as a rule from the other ribbon cables, because the normal power plug on the hard drives have the power plug on the opposite side.
Second, tell us exactly what drives you have and how you have them hooked up...here is an example: Maxtor 30 gig IDE, set as master, on the end of the ribbon cable, and connected to IDE #1.
Third, the memory thing does seem to be an issue. Is the memory that you have listed on the QVL list in the motherboard manual?
For now, for testing purposes, just leave one stick of Ram in the board, and do follow the instructions in the manual about where that single stick should be. As an example, some boards require that when you use a single stick, that it is in Dimm2, Dimm3, or even Dimm4 instead of Dimm 1. That feature is new to some who don't regularly build, so please check that out before you go too far.
Let us know these things and we will try to get right back to you.
Posted by: Talannon
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tumbleweed36
Try flipping the floppy cable over and see if the BIOS recognizes it. That is a common mistake that all of us make from time to time. The red stripe (pin 1) goes toward the power plug on that one and it is opposite as a rule from the other ribbon cables, because the normal power plug on the hard drives have the power plug on the opposite side.
It will only go in the way I put it. Other thing is the power supply is an ATX with 20 pin. My manual says it should work but it also says that I could use a 24 pin SSI power supply but never use those. Again I am sure the power supply is in correctly cause I couldn't plug it any other way anyway.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tumbleweed36
Second, tell us exactly what drives you have and how you have them hooked up...here is an example: Maxtor 30 gig IDE, set as master, on the end of the ribbon cable, and connected to IDE #1.
Maxtor 160 gig connected on sata 1 and there doesn't seem to ba master/slave option. Is it because it's SATA? It also seems to be detected as IDE THIRD Master on the first page.
LG DVD +/- RW in master on ide 1
Nothing on IDE 2
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tumbleweed36
Third, the memory thing does seem to be an issue. Is the memory that you have listed on the QVL list in the motherboard manual?
My ram is PC3200 (DDR 400) it's supported from what I can read in the book
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tumbleweed36
For now, for testing purposes, just leave one stick of Ram in the board, and do follow the instructions in the manual about where that single stick should be. As an example, some boards require that when you use a single stick, that it is in Dimm2, Dimm3, or even Dimm4 instead of Dimm 1. That feature is new to some who don't regularly build, so please check that out before you go too far.
Manual says it should be in a green slot first which is dimm 1 and 3. I put it in dimm 1 ans it should be fine. The setup like it is now, is in the combination list in the manual.
Posted by: Talannon
Quote:
Originally Posted by ginger6
I dont think it is your power supply, the power supply you have should handle what you have got no problem, the problem will be your memory...... are the 2 memory sticks you have identical, ie: same manufacturer, same speed, same chips on the board..... to run in dual channel mode you need both sticks to be exactly identical otherwise you will have problems.
What brand is the memory, if it is a cheap brand then you may have compatibilty problems.
Have you run memtest86 when both sticks are inserted but not in dual channel mode?
Kevin
I've only run test with the ram installed separately...
I also bought my ram as dual channel so I got a kit from Kingston KVR. So they should be identical to each other. Kingston is in the list of supported memory on MSI webpage of the motherboard...
Posted by: Talannon
So I tested the both ram at the same time but in single channel and no error.
One thing I notice is when I boot the ram is showed to go at 201 mhz instead of 200. Not sure if it says something...
Posted by: whodatknocking
Quote:
First I get the computer and at first boot I get no video signal. I see that I forgot to put the spacer between MoBo and the case.
this might be a real problem, we'll see
but first:
go into your bios and relaxe the timings on your ram, maybe 3-4-4-8
pump the voltage up on the ram a notch,to maybe 2.7 or 2.8
post back
Posted by: Talannon
humm I'm not sure what I should be looking for in the bios for that.
If I put Timing mode in manual instead of auto I can change a bunch of thing. I have no idea what you mean by 3-4-4-8... There is something in that called CAS# latency (Tcl) which is by default at 2.5 but could change it to 2.0 or 3.0. Is that the voltage?
Posted by: whodatknocking
try 3
no it isnt the voltage, the voltage would be in another spot in the bios
post back
Posted by: Talannon
changed nothing
I guess I am to a point to check the cpu on another socket 939 MoBo to see if it's the cpu or the MoBo the problem. With everything we tried I start to doubt it could be anything else.

K8N Neo4 Plat. boot delay with Canon MP390

Hi everyone!
My problem is the following:
My K8N Neo4 Plat. based computer got a huge delay (5mins!) on POST at boot (right after CPU name listing) when my Canon MP390 multifuntion USB printer is connected. I already know its caused by a conflict between the printer's card reader and the mobo, something maybe related to the mobo trying to boot on the card reader. Could be something else, but for now that's the only explanation i could find.
I red all post here concerning USB boot problems (or delays) and tried everything i could and red without results
Things that have been done (and much more!) :
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- Disabled booting to other devices in BIOS leaving only floppy, cdrom and HD as bootable devices
- Disabled support for USB KB/storage devices in BIOS
- Unplugged Mitsumi floppy/cardreader combo drive (USB internal)
- Unplugged front panel USB and D-Bracket2
- 2 days of various tests with other computers, printers, psu, USB devices I had in store
I'm about to give up on this one! .. Anyone got ideas other than buying a new multifuntion printer? Could it be a defective mobo?
Thanks!
Rivendell
Computer specs are:
Athlon64 4000+, MSI K8N Neo4 Plat.
2x512MB PC3200 (OCZ 1GB KIT PN: OCZ4001024PDC-K)
Sapphire X850XT PCI-E 256MB, WD Raptor 74GB SATA
Thermaltake Silent Power 480w PSU, NEC 16X DVD-+RW
Mitsumi floppy/cardreader combo drive (unplugged for testing purpose)

It might be related with BIOS. The BIOS 1.65 seems to resolve the quick boot issue. You can get it from MSI to try it.

Maxtor 6Y160MOSTD 160GB DiamondMax Plus 9 SATA/150 -- on -- MSI K8N Neo4 Plat...

Hello there... I have a Maxtor 6Y160MOSTD 160GB DiamondMax Plus 9 SATA/150 on my MSI K8N Neo4 Platinum. I've had this problem before but it wasn't important enough to report until now.
I have the latest BIOS (1.B)
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Did I leave some info out?

Have you tried to download the Firmware for your HDD? Maybe you can refer to this site ==> https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?action=profile;u=77029

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dont find any driver or something for bluetooth, but Wi-Fi work perfectly.
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Quote from: crazy on 05-January-06, 16:07:28
You may firstly clear cmos and load defaults in the bios, and if it is available, please attach us a picture of the screen which the issue occurred when you hit enter during the its detecting the SATA hard disk. I am a little confused about what you said. Please tell me what changes have you made before the issue took place. I just want to help, so do many other people. But please firstly give us more detailed information.
I did it and nothing! Should I restore the original bios version that came with the mother?
I'll explain the problem: You enter BIOS, go to the disk properties (where says LBA, LARGE, CYLINDERS, HEAD, etc) and hit enter, usually the screen goes blue and shows a line at the bottom of the screen (they are like triangles pointing downside) and 2 seconds after everithing comes back showing the data of the disk ok? Well, now it hangs forever in the "triangles pointing downside" part and I have to restart the machine...
Does this belongs to the issue of the K8n neo4 platinum with the maxtor hdd's ??? The mobo is malfunctioning?
Please helpppp! Thanks!

No Post/Black Screen - MSI K8N Neo4 Platinum

Hello,
Here is my problem, I bought MSI K8N Neo4 Platinum motherboard and got
- 3500+ cpu
- CORSAIR XMS 1GB memory
- PCI-E Leadtek 7800GT video card
- Aspire 520Watt PSU
I have put all of it together fine( I have put many systems for friends before) hooked all the power cables, case to mobo stuff, fans. Every time I turn it on fans go on, and lights go on but there is nothing on the screen as if no signal from video card to monitor, plus no error beeps which means cpu and memory is fine right. I have tried to just have memory, video card and nothing else hooked up, same result. I have tried another PSU, same result. Now to add to this, I had same problem with ABIT motherboard and another video card(same) which eliminates bad motherboard and bad video card, since both I have replaced except this time I got MSI mobo and not ABIT. I got same problem with all of it, nothing comes up, no post while fans spin when I turn it on etc... What could be the problem? memory? case? Any ideas?
Please help me as I spent a lot of $ and time on this and had no signal to monitor so far. Thanks.

As I said at this point I am trying to boot without any drives plugged in just to get a post and boot up but no go. So basically all my drives are unplugged and I cannot get it to work, I have tried different psu and same problem. I have tried another video card( I RMA this one and got another) it goes and snaps into PCI E slot all good, I have checked that many times. The only thing I can think of is memory at this point but this is brand new XM Corsiar memory and why wouldnt the motherboard beep ( i hoked speaker) if there was any error like that? I just dont get what is going on.
I have no idea what bios version I have as I have been unable to check it, unless you want me to check the chip version on chipset?

Audigy2 + MSI K8N Neo4 Platinum nForce4 Ultra prob

Hi I have an audigy2 from my old pc and installed it on my new system the motherboard is a MSI K8N Neo4 Platinum nForce4 Ultra after I installed it I began getting 'Machine_check_exception' blue screen of death, I used the creative auto update to update to the latest drivers, now the pc makes a hissing sound and reboots it's self.
Any help would be apprecieated.

hi
i am getting th same thing with my gigabyte nforce 4 board
ga8nxp-sli
could this be an nforce 4 related issue?
i found through a process of elimination that the conflict apears to be with windows audio service
i turn it off and all the problems just go away but i still get no sound (not much help there i am afraid)
regards
andy

NVIDIA Network Adapter problem (MSI K8N Neo4-F)

We have an MSI K8N Neo4- F motherboard. We are running Windowx XP SP2 (just upgraded to Service Pack 2). The computer will only boot in Normal mode if we disable or remove the NVIDIA Network Adapter driver. If we attempt to boot in Normal mode, it always ends with a Bad Pool Header problem (Blue Screen of Death). If we boot in Safe Mode with Networking, we can access the Internet. If we disable or remove the driver, then boot in normal mode, we can run in Normal mode but we do not have internet connection.
Does anyone know how we can use the onboard Network Adapter, and still boot in normal mode?
We have been using the latest drivers from MSI for this motherboard. Is there a different version that can be used? Is it possible that we have to update our BIOS for it to work correctly with SP2?
Thanks!

I think I may have misunderstood what you meant by a clean install. I probably should have asked what you meant before I answered my last post.
If you mean "did we just build the system by wiping the hard drive, installing XP SP1, then apply SP2", the answer is no. The system has been running Windows XP SP1 for several years without any problems, and we just wanted to upgrade to SP2 because there is some software that we want to load that requires SP2 to run. We have lots of software loaded on this machine that we use every day that we really want to avoid (short of time right now to tackle that project) rebuilding the entire operating system/machine because of the work involved in reloading all the software, etc.
Am I correct in assuming that we would have to wipe out the hard drive and start over if we did a re-install from a slipstreamed SP2 cd? If so, then we will probably just stay with SP1 for the time being if there is no other option to fix this Nvidia driver problem until we have more time to do a complete re-install and reload of the computer.
What about just installing a NIC in one of the PCI slots and use that instead of the onboard NetWork Adapter?
Thanks for all your help.

Have you OC'd MSI K8N Neo4? If so, please reply.

Hey guys!
Im trying to figure out why my system wont boot over 220mhz FSB.
My previous thread:
K8N Platinum instability! help!
If you have MSI K8N Neo4 and a winchester cpu please write down anything you changed in bios. It would help me out a lot.
Like mem timings. vcore. voltage. and so on. Anything you've changed
My system specs:
winchester 3500+
MSI K8N SLI Platinum with the latest bios(official)
PowerColor X300SE
36gb Raptor SATA
120gb Maxtor IDE
Hp CD-Writer 8100
Hiper 425w PSU (20pin ->24pin adapter)
TwinMos Twister PC4300
Windows XP ServicePack2
Latest bios (according to MSI Live Monitor)

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Some1ne, Are you using an Antec True Power 380W without the 20 ->24 pin adapter?
Yes, I am using it without any adapter. I just followed the instructions given in the manual about how to hook up a 20 pin PSU to the 24-pin connector (i.e. leave pins 11, 12, 23, 24 unconnected). It was very easy to do and the pins are all keyed to prevent incorrect insertion of the 20 pin connector.
I wouldn't be concerned about your PSU if I were you...a lot of times power requirements are overstated here mostly in order to ensure that people don't go out and buy a crappy $20, 500W rated PSU and then come in and ask "why doesn't my system work, my PSU should be plenty big enough." The Antec TruePower PSU's are fairly high quality, and I wouldn't expect you to have any problems with yours.
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Other question, you was able to reach 272fsb (htt) inside and only with the BIOS? or you used ClockGen ?
Yes, BIOS overclocking only, I haven't tried using ClockGen to tweak.

MSI K8N NEO4 F support for 90nm, Venice

MSI K8N NEO4 F. Does this board support the cpu:
AMD Athlon 64 3500+ 2.2GHz Socket 939, 512KB, 90nm, Venice
Can not find it in the cpu compabillity list.
Anyone who have tried it ?

From Anandtec Site posting 5/22/2005:
"On another side note, we have heard several reports about 90nm Athlon 64 processors performing poorly in MSI’s K8N Neo4 product line. We will have more details for you in the near future, but if you are in between motherboards and you are also planning a 90nm purchase, you may want to stay away from the K8N until we can either verify or dispute those K8N reports. Our guess is that some new BIOSes should fix the performance issues. "
Link: http://www.anandtech.com/guides/showdoc.aspx?i=2425&p=4

MSI K8N Neo4-F Dividers?

During this coming week im going to be going out and purchasing the MSI K8N Neo4-F, I was just wondering if it has the option to set the memory to run at 166 instead of 200?
Also is the chipset fan noisy? Are you able to control fan speeds (view the RPM of the chipset fan) via Speedfan?
Thanks.
- Jazza

Quote from: Assimilator1 on 31-December-05, 21:41:11
Yea it has RAM dividers of 166,133 & 100 ,but I'm having problems with the 133 setting doesn't seem to work properly (memory is not overclocked) ,it randomley fails to boot or restart :( ,not sure what the problem is yet.
Chipset fan didn't seem particularly noisey to me ,despite its 6k speed!
do you have the latest BIOS?? i tried all of dividers and i did not have any problem..
maybe i should replace NB Fan with more silen one..

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