MSI K8N Neo4-F Motherboard fault

Just thought I'd let you all know about a fault I discovered on my motherboard.
On the underside near the PCI slot furthest from the PCI-E slots there was some solder that was a little messy, causing a short. It killed the card that was in that slot (cheap PCI modem). Once tidied up worked great, but I had suffered for 3 weeks trying to determine where the driver faults were coming from! Thankfully all is sorted now, but thought you might want to file that away for future reference.

I got a new one of the Raidmax power supply, which did not resolve the issue. Because the same exact configuration had worked for over 100 days (and for about 2 years with a previous, weaker power supply), I decided it was the motherboard. I realize this wasn't an ideal power supply, but again, the fact that this configuration had worked for so long indicates to me that it is very unlikely to be the power supply (unless the motherboard has become more picky with time).
I replaced it with a ASRock 939Dual-Sata2 and everything appears to be working great now!
Thanks for everyone's suggestions. I thought I would update the status so that other people searching in the future would know that replacing the motherboard could solve these problems (although because I didn't replace with the same motherboard I can't be 100% sure that it was solely to blame here).

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PowerDVD Software with a MSI K8N Neo4 Platinum Motherboard

I have a system built around an MSI K8N Neo4 Platinum motherboard. I'm using the motherboard's onboard sound, and I have it connected to a 5.1 speaker system. Has anyone with a similar setup been able to play DVD-Audio discs with surround sound? I tried WinDVD 6 Platinum, but while I could get awesome surround sound from a regular DVD, I only got stereo sound from a DVD-Audio.
Has anyone used PowerDVD Deluxe? According to what I've read, it supports DVD-Audio surround playback, but I'd like to verify that it works before shelling out $70.
A.J.

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And specifically using the onboard sound of a MSI K8N Neo4 Platinum Motherboard?
Nope, I'm sorry - it does not make much sense to do that when you have a real soundcard - I will look into the DVD-Audio thing for you, though. Just out of curiosity: why would you want to use a format specifically designed to provide the highest possible audio fidelity with on-board sound?

MSI K8N Neo4 SLI motherboard: Creative Onboard Sound

Hello all,
This is my first time on this forum, and I hope you all can help me. I have an MSI K8N Neo 4 SLI board. It comes with Onboard Creative 24bit sound.
Now, lately I have had problems with it. One day, it just stopped working. I thought it was somewhat weird and just reinstalled the drivers. It worked for a while longer and eventually quit again. Well, it was time for a reformat anyway, so I thought a clean installation of drivers would solve the problem. Well, it didn't. Now, I have downloaded the latest drivers from the MSI website, and they allowed the sound to work for one evening, but this morning it is dead again. My computer says that all hardware is working fine. I havn't had a bluescreen, and the music plays in the Windows Media Player, I just can't hear it through the speakers. My speakers do work fine because I have tried many different speakers, and none of them change the dead silence outcome. I hope my onboard sound is not dead! Please reply if you know anything else that I can do...

I didn't want to start a new thread with the same topic, usually get flamed everywhere else for that...
Anway
AMD Athlon XP 64 3500 socket 939
2gb PC3200 Ram (1 x 1gb / 2 x 512mb sticks )
ATI Radeon X800XT PCI Express
3 x 250GB SATA western digital drives
Windows XP Professional with latest service packs etc...
Got the latest motherboard bios from live update,latest creative drivers from their website etc...
**Edit** also worth mentioning my system starts very slowly if I have my onboard sound enabled and doesn't run at what I'd call 'normal' if I turn it off in the bios my system works perfectly.

Sudden shutoffs with MSI K8N Neo4-F motherboard

I have reviewed other posts on this forum and it appears that this is usually a PSU problem, but mine is somewhat recurring, so I thought I would post to check.
I built this computer ~3 years ago. After a couple of years I would experience random shutoffs. Either when I was using the computer or not, the computer would suddenly shutoff without warning ~ once or twice a day (often but not always associated with reading/writing to a second hard drive as part of a backup routine). In order to start the computer again I have to unplug it, wait for the flashing power light to turn off completely and then plug it back in again.
I replaced the power supply with a RAIDMAX Hybrid 2 RX-530SS +3.3V@28A,+5V@34A,+12V1@20A,+12V2@17A, [email protected], [email protected] and the problem was corrected for several months.
A few days ago the problem reappeared exactly as it was before. What is the probability that it is again the power supply? Could something about the motherboard be frying the power supplies? I don't have access to another one so I would like to narrow it down before I have to replace something. Replacing this old 939 motherboard won't be easy, so I hope to avoid this.
Thanks!

I got a new one of the Raidmax power supply, which did not resolve the issue. Because the same exact configuration had worked for over 100 days (and for about 2 years with a previous, weaker power supply), I decided it was the motherboard. I realize this wasn't an ideal power supply, but again, the fact that this configuration had worked for so long indicates to me that it is very unlikely to be the power supply (unless the motherboard has become more picky with time).
I replaced it with a ASRock 939Dual-Sata2 and everything appears to be working great now!
Thanks for everyone's suggestions. I thought I would update the status so that other people searching in the future would know that replacing the motherboard could solve these problems (although because I didn't replace with the same motherboard I can't be 100% sure that it was solely to blame here).

No Post/Black Screen - MSI K8N Neo4 Platinum

Hello,
Here is my problem, I bought MSI K8N Neo4 Platinum motherboard and got
- 3500+ cpu
- CORSAIR XMS 1GB memory
- PCI-E Leadtek 7800GT video card
- Aspire 520Watt PSU
I have put all of it together fine( I have put many systems for friends before) hooked all the power cables, case to mobo stuff, fans. Every time I turn it on fans go on, and lights go on but there is nothing on the screen as if no signal from video card to monitor, plus no error beeps which means cpu and memory is fine right. I have tried to just have memory, video card and nothing else hooked up, same result. I have tried another PSU, same result. Now to add to this, I had same problem with ABIT motherboard and another video card(same) which eliminates bad motherboard and bad video card, since both I have replaced except this time I got MSI mobo and not ABIT. I got same problem with all of it, nothing comes up, no post while fans spin when I turn it on etc... What could be the problem? memory? case? Any ideas?
Please help me as I spent a lot of $ and time on this and had no signal to monitor so far. Thanks.

As I said at this point I am trying to boot without any drives plugged in just to get a post and boot up but no go. So basically all my drives are unplugged and I cannot get it to work, I have tried different psu and same problem. I have tried another video card( I RMA this one and got another) it goes and snaps into PCI E slot all good, I have checked that many times. The only thing I can think of is memory at this point but this is brand new XM Corsiar memory and why wouldnt the motherboard beep ( i hoked speaker) if there was any error like that? I just dont get what is going on.
I have no idea what bios version I have as I have been unable to check it, unless you want me to check the chip version on chipset?

NVIDIA Network Adapter problem (MSI K8N Neo4-F)

We have an MSI K8N Neo4- F motherboard. We are running Windowx XP SP2 (just upgraded to Service Pack 2). The computer will only boot in Normal mode if we disable or remove the NVIDIA Network Adapter driver. If we attempt to boot in Normal mode, it always ends with a Bad Pool Header problem (Blue Screen of Death). If we boot in Safe Mode with Networking, we can access the Internet. If we disable or remove the driver, then boot in normal mode, we can run in Normal mode but we do not have internet connection.
Does anyone know how we can use the onboard Network Adapter, and still boot in normal mode?
We have been using the latest drivers from MSI for this motherboard. Is there a different version that can be used? Is it possible that we have to update our BIOS for it to work correctly with SP2?
Thanks!

I think I may have misunderstood what you meant by a clean install. I probably should have asked what you meant before I answered my last post.
If you mean "did we just build the system by wiping the hard drive, installing XP SP1, then apply SP2", the answer is no. The system has been running Windows XP SP1 for several years without any problems, and we just wanted to upgrade to SP2 because there is some software that we want to load that requires SP2 to run. We have lots of software loaded on this machine that we use every day that we really want to avoid (short of time right now to tackle that project) rebuilding the entire operating system/machine because of the work involved in reloading all the software, etc.
Am I correct in assuming that we would have to wipe out the hard drive and start over if we did a re-install from a slipstreamed SP2 cd? If so, then we will probably just stay with SP1 for the time being if there is no other option to fix this Nvidia driver problem until we have more time to do a complete re-install and reload of the computer.
What about just installing a NIC in one of the PCI slots and use that instead of the onboard NetWork Adapter?
Thanks for all your help.

Playing DVD-Audios with an MSI K8N Neo4 Platinum

I have a system built around an MSI K8N Neo4 Platinum motherboard. I'm using the motherboard's onboard sound, and I have it connected to a 5.1 speaker system. Using WinDVD 6 Platinum, I can play regular DVDs just fine, with awesome surround sound. However, when I try to play DVD-Audios, I only get stereo sound. Anyone have any suggestions?
A.J.

DVD video sound format AC3 5.1 and DVD-Audio sound format is not the same .
DVD-Audio disks has also a video AC3 5.1 track and stereo track , set yor sw player to use AC3 and see if it helps.
E.g a soundblaster Audigy ZE , or X-FI can render DVD-Audio , but not the onboard sound on Neo4.

MSI K8N Neo4 Platinum SLI sound needs -5V; newest Antec 550W has no -5V rail

I came within a whisker of ordering a non-returnable 3700 Venice, MSI K8N Neo4 Platinum SLI mobo and an upgraded Power Supply, Antec's newest 550W PS the TP2-550 EPS12V ($117). This has dual 2x24pin 12V 19A rails and is touted as the new V2.0 EPS12V/ATX12v compatible power supply for high performance SLI systems. By accident I came across a page at MSI for this mobo
http://www.msi.com.tw/program/products/mai...ail.php?UID=641
At the end is this warning: MSI Reminds You...
• For this model, you must use a Power Supply which has a -5V pin supply. Also, the users manual which I downloaded on Pg 2-10 says the same thing
The above Antec PS specs do not show a -5V rail, nor does an Enermax 600W I looked at. The V2.0 specs for ATX12v which added 2x24pin 12V rails dropped -5V rail from the spec and it appears MSI is not conforming to the spec (See Antec response at end) None of the web sites selling these PS & mobos contain any warning. I vaguely recall from a forum a while back it may have something to do with the Soundblaster system in the mobo.
http://www.antec.com/us/productDetails.php?ProdID=22551 (click specifications)
Isn't this a major showstopper which is going to cause a lot of grief for those of us upgrading to SLI systems using this mobo and upgrading our PS to the newest & best power design? We won't know the PS won't work until we build the system.
Regards, Ron
Antec reply to me:
>>>>Thanks for the link. Since MSI's website does state the motherboard needs the -5v, the True550EPS12V will not work with this motherboard. The Standard (http://enhanceusa.com/documents/atx12v_v2.01.pdf) has removed the use for the -5v rail and it is no longer needed. MSI has not manufactured that motherboard to the Standard. Finding an ATX12V v2.0 power supply with the -5v might be hard to find. You should contact MSI for a compatibility list of power supplys that were tested to work with the K8N SLI Platinum.

Quote from: ccve3 on 21-May-05, 07:27:40
Wow!! syar2003 thanks for that post. I've spend an hour going through it & fasteddies links. Now I are a power expert. The dual rail argument is enough for me to go back to the MSI K8N Neo4 Platinum SLI with one of the single rail PS -5V units listed by fasteddie. The only question left now refers to computerpro3 recommendation on ultra power supplies for SLI
>>I quite simply wouldn't dream of putting anything else in my machine. Keep in mind, this section is for 2x 6800 models, not the 6600's which most any good psu will handle (like Antec Neopower, ocz 520, etc). . Pc Power and Cooling 510 Deluxe SLI edition (refer to list)
2. Zippy/Emacs 550-700w models
3. OCZ 600w (personally I would get the pcp&c for the price, but it's been proven here, so I'll be fair...).
These are really high end, expensive and only 3-4 choices. Since I'm getting one 6800GT and eventually another & possibly eventually a 4800 X2, I was hoping the OCZ 520W would do it but computerpro3 says Powermaster 520 isn't good enough for SLI. I found that there is an OCZ 600W ATX12 dual rail which surprisingly has a -5V rail needed for K8N Neo4 SLI Soundblaster. Will this meet computerpro3's preference for a high end PS for SLI systems even though I'm losing the 1 rail advantage. Maybe the 600 Watts just overwhelms the 1 rail/2 rail question.
Thanks again for the teriffic help
Regards, Ron
Wondering what you settled on. I got the Antec TP550 and it's flawless on the board. I even have the older 20pin model which works perfectly (including sound). If you really wanted what I would consider to be a top dog (pcpower and cooling), and find the -5v rail missing, all you have to do is place a phone order and request they add a -5v rail. It's a minimal cost and a total solution for having everything. Just my $0.02

MSI K8N Neo4 FI Compatible with AMD 3800+ X2?

I just bought:
MSI K8N Neo4 FI
AMD Athlon 64 3800+ X2
Gainwood 7800GT Golden Sample
hec Pb-480PB 480W
Problem is that i don't get a picture when i start the computer.
Everything seems to work, all the cables are plugged in.
The gfx has power from the cable.
Can it be that the motherboard dosen't recognize the CPU, and that won't give my a picture?
Help would be appreciated.

That should be enough to start the computer. It has two +12V rails, which are of good enough ampage.
Now it looks to me like it needs a newer BIOS version to recognise the CPU.
See: http://www.msi.com.tw/program/support/bios/bos/spt_bos_detail.php?UID=651&kind=1 I think this is your motherboard?!
You'll need another A64 CPU to flash the BIOS though.
Just to settle akhille's mind, you could also try a better PSU.

MSI K8N-Neo4 and PCI-E x4

Hi Folks,
I've got an MSI K8N-Neo4 (MS-7125) motherboard that I'm looking to add a RAID card to. It's got a PCI-Express x4 slot on the board that I'd like to utilize. However, I've seen some conflicting information regarding it's use. In the manual on page 2-26 it states "PCI Express x4 Slot (Support PCI-E x2 device Only)". However when I look at the webpage for the board at http://www.msicomputer.com/product/p_spec.asp?model=K8N_Neo4_Platinum& it makes no mention of this limitation.
The main reason why I'm wondering is because I'd like to add a HighPoint RocketRAID SATA raid controller to my system. If the slot can handle x4 cards, then I'll purchase the 2310 model, which is an x4. If it cannot, then I'll purchase the 2300, which is an x2 model. I've seen some mentions of other people on the forums with K8N-Neo4 boards using the 2320 (an x4 card with 8 SATA ports instead of 4 on the 2310), but haven't seen what sort of bandwidth they're getting. Are you actually able to get PCI-E x4 bandwidth out of this port? Or will it downgrade it to PCI-E x2 or PCI-E x1 (the PCI-E spec says that when cards a plugged into a different size port they only need to be supported at x1)? Or, and even better question, will it even work?
Thanks for any help you can provide.

Quote from: Bas on 09-July-06, 07:25:26
Those are not different then from what's on the motherboard
Want a real one? Look at this: >>Real one!<<
That's real raid controller.....
What you mention is just the same as the onboard stuff.
As for the Linux raid stuff, I presume you mean the Linux Software raid, no those controllers aren't that good, but the High-points aren't that good either.
Heck, they don't even have their own CPU or memory.....the one I showed you has and is WAY faster
(PS. sample given is PCIx, won't fit your board, but that's a raid controller!)
Okay, that still doesn't answer my question about the PCI-E slot. You make a decent point, but I was more using the Highpoints as an example and because they came up in several searches of the forum. For the sake of getting a real answer, lets assume it is a real RAID card, such as the PROMISE SuperTrak EX8350 RTL, which according to the Serial ATA on Linux page is a real raid card and all that. Will it work in the PCI-E x4 slot on the MSI K8N-Neo4 Platinum or not?
All I really want to know is if the slot can actually run a PCI-E x4 card or not. The documentation contradicts itself.

MSI K8N Neo4 Platinum or MSI 6600GT PCI-E ?

Dear Sirs,
I've just bought a MSI NX6600 TD GT 128MB PCI-E and
Motherboard MSI K8N Neo4 Platinum.
I Think that one of these is defective bacause WinXP
can't work with MSI original drivers, MSI old
drivers or Nvidia drivers. The system reboots.
I think that i've tried almost everything and this
card only works badly with VesaSave driver (Generic
Windows driver).
Could a defective video card works ?
Is it possible that the problem is the Motherboard ?
Any idea ?
Help me please,
Thank you very much,
ISW
MSI K8N Neo4 Platinum
A64 3500+ Winchester
Original Cooler
DDR PC4000 GEIL 1GB ULTRA DUAL
MSI NX6600 TD GT 128MB PCI-E
Maxtor 120GB
Seagate 120GB
XP Home SP2

Duplicate Post.
Look for all replies here:
MSI 6600GT PCI-E or MSI K8N Neo4 Platinum ?
Take Care,
Richard

MSI 6600GT PCI-E or MSI K8N Neo4 Platinum ?

Dear Sirs,
I've just bought a MSI NX6600 TD GT 128MB PCI-E and
Motherboard MSI K8N Neo4 Platinum.
I Think that one of these is defective bacause WinXP can't work with MSI original drivers, MSI old drivers or Nvidia drivers. The system reboots.
I think that i've tried almost everything and this card only works badly with VesaSave driver (Generic Windows driver).
Could a defective video card works ?
Is it possible that the problem is the Motherboard ?
Any idea ?
Help me please,
Thank you very much,
ISW
MSI K8N Neo4 Platinum
A64 3500+ Winchester
Original Cooler
DDR PC4000 GEIL 1GB ULTRA DUAL
MSI NX6600 TD GT 128MB PCI-E
Maxtor 120GB
Seagate 120GB
XP Home SP2

About PSU I'm a old (41 years old) newbie, and I had to re-assemble my old computer to work but I check this before with MSI software and at motherboard bios voltage check and remember that it was ok it is a 600 watts. But I think that even if it is not, I could at minus install the driver and start Windows. I had no possibility to even start Windows.
If I install any MSI or Nvidia driver, when loading WindowsXP the screen turns black and at some time after the system reboots and prompts to start in secure mode. So I can't do anything, even starts Windows with this videoboard with right drivers. It only works with "VesaSafe" driver.
ISW

Audigy2 + MSI K8N Neo4 Platinum nForce4 Ultra prob

Hi I have an audigy2 from my old pc and installed it on my new system the motherboard is a MSI K8N Neo4 Platinum nForce4 Ultra after I installed it I began getting 'Machine_check_exception' blue screen of death, I used the creative auto update to update to the latest drivers, now the pc makes a hissing sound and reboots it's self.
Any help would be apprecieated.

hi
i am getting th same thing with my gigabyte nforce 4 board
ga8nxp-sli
could this be an nforce 4 related issue?
i found through a process of elimination that the conflict apears to be with windows audio service
i turn it off and all the problems just go away but i still get no sound (not much help there i am afraid)
regards
andy

Bios Settings For MSI K8N Neo4/SLI Platinum MB

Hello all... Has anyone came up with the best and most stable bios settings for the MSI K8N Neo4/SLI Platinum motherboard yet. Specifically under the CPU and Memory menus.
If anyone has seen any, please post them. or post a link.
Thanks
DaaDoctor

Well that depends on the installed CPU and memory, doesnt it? So I find that question kinda odd.
One thing though: Dont use Cool n Quiet.

Considering the MSI K8N Neo4 Platinum

Hello,
I'm currently deciding whether or not to get the MSI K8N Neo4 Platinum, and I just have a few questions.
1) How beginner friendly is it?
2) Does it take a lot of work to make it run or can you just plug everything up and the system will run fast and stable?
3) How stable is this board? I've heard that MSI boards were unstable, so how stable is this specific board?
4) I know this board is good at gaming, but how about office work like using Microsoft Word, Excel, Powerpoint, etc.?
5) I plan to keep this system for at least four years, will this motherboard give a lot of trouble? And how reliable is it?
5) Can ya'll share your experiences with MSI?
Thanks for any help.

Quote from: ExpertNovice on 30-June-05, 03:43:00
Is the MSI website http://www.msicomputer.com/product/p_spec.asp?model=K8N_Neo4_Platinum/SLI&class=mb where MSI names the board as "K8N Neo4 Platinum/SLI" incorrect? It wouldn't be the first time a typographical error occurred.
If not then the OP may simply have not had enough room to enter a complete description.
No it is not incorrect, I am staring at the box mine came in. It says Platinum Edition-K8N Neo4/SLI, there is also a the non platinum version K8N Neo4/SLI and the non-SLI K8N Neo 4
anyway,
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Maybe I'll get the Platinum SLI edition instead so that I can upgrade later to SLI without having to buy a new card. If I do get the SLI I'll use a single card for now and put in the second card later when it's needed. Does the MSI K8N Neo4 Platinum/SLI have any problems with running a single video card in non-SLI mode? And I've noticed that the SLI edition doesn't have a x1 PCIe or x4 PCIe slot, is sacraficing these two slots (as well as a regular PCI slot) worth it for SLI capabilities?
to answer that question, no it does not have problems running a single card in non SLI mode. It runs like a champ. I pernonally would not use the extra PCI slots, so to me SLI outweighs scarificing the extra PICe slots.

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