MSI K8N Neo4

Hi guys,
Ever since I've had this PC (which is about 6-8 months, tis custom built) I've noticed mysterious bleeping noises coming from the PC speaker (note: not the desktop speaker) and a rather strange and random speeding up/slowing down of a fan inside the computer. The bleeping seems to occur during the time the fan has changed speed. This only ever happens when playing certain games.
Very strange indeed, but I've never had any problems, I just brushed it off as strange.
But yesterday, the fan sped up as usual but the bleeping remained constant (and also very annoying) and wouldn't stop until I exited to desktop. Now before it was just one or two bleeps and nothing of concern but now I'm worried that there is actually something wrong with my computer that I haven't been picking up on and now it's gotten to be a big problem.
I was told that maybe this is because I have the threshold too low in the bios, and that its nothing to worry about, so I disable the beeps in the device manager and go about my business.
All is fine until about 30 mins ago, I fire up 2142 demo, and about 5 mins in, some MORE beeps happen (they were in a different tone)! Now I know something has to be wrong if it's making more beeps, but meh, as I've said, I'm not a techy person...
This is either a very simple problem or a very tough one. I'm too scared to play a 3D game now in case I fry my PC to bits or something. Please help me out guys!
:edit: The beeps I got were short continuous beeps and NOT the siren 2 tone noises i've been reading about around the internet. In a google search, this would indicate I have a power supply problem but I swear I have the right one? Gah. Anyway... this is the PSU I have... Tell me if it is correct.

Did you do all the set up of the system yourself? Are you running SpeedFan or CoreCenter? Monitoring programs can be set to make beeps based on certain events: typically one might set SpeedFan, in the "Events" configuration, to beep every 5 seconds if the temperature of an Athlon64 exceeds 60C or so for 2 or 3 monitoring "ticks". The fact that you have a fan speeding up while this happens sounds like this is a likely explanation. Check your temperatures, particularly CPU, and see if they are indeed excessive - if not, change the monitoring threshold settings. If you don't have a way to do that with your current setup, dump the monitoring program you're using, e.g. CoreCenter, and get SpeedFan.
If you're using Dynamic Overclocking, don't - it doesn't work. In particular, make sure you do not have nTune installed and that it's turned off in BIOS and CoreCenter if you have that installed.

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Quote from: ccve3 on 21-May-05, 07:27:40
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Welcome to the forum DaaDoctor
If you creat a signature (in profile) it will save you having to type your spec's out each time or us looking for it. Use mine as a template.
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Those are not different then from what's on the motherboard
Want a real one? Look at this: >>Real one!<<
That's real raid controller.....
What you mention is just the same as the onboard stuff.
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Heck, they don't even have their own CPU or memory.....the one I showed you has and is WAY faster
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Quote from: Supershanks on 19-May-05, 21:45:00
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Quote from: crazy on 05-January-06, 16:07:28
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Hi mjc2264,
It's the series 10 300gb maxtors that have been giving pps some issues not just with msi but all AMD64 Nvidia chipsets, its unusual to have Maxtor9 ?? give problems.
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1) Bios Standard Cmos Features try changing the Access Mode for your 300Gb to Large instead of Auto.
2) Detection is sometimes Worse due to the Pata channel issues. If using the Nvidia IDE Drivers ensure your
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Samsung 52x32x52 Burner
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Select dont choose , i will choose the driver
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