MSI K8N PLATINIUM SLI - TROUBLE POSTING?

To start with my spec's
AMD 3500 S939 'Venice' Stock Cooler
MSI K8N PLAT SLI
BIOS V 3
PSU ANTEC Truepower 2.0 550W (has 2 X 18amp 12V rails)
1gb (2x512mb) OCZ PC 4000 VX GOLD
HDD SEAGATE 200GB SATA
Leadtek 6800GT PCI Express
WIN XP Pro SP2 (OEM)
Pioneer DVD Writer
Audigy 2 ZX
All brand new and no overclocking undertaken.
My problem is that my system is a nightmare to get to boot/post. After I first built it last week it booted up fine the first time. Seemed stable as I ran through the Doom 3 demo and Thief 3 to give the system a bit of stress. It worked fine for hours CPU was fine, temp about 33-36 degrees at the time. Shutdown and went to bed.
The next day went out to boot up and this is where the problems started to occur.
I hit the power button the case fans spin, cpu coooler fan starts spinning, blue LED on motherboard comes on, the DLED's hang at chipset initiallization. Eventually after hitting the power up button on the case and resetting about ten times the system finally boots up, runs for hours like a dream, will reboot with no problems.
Next day cold boot same problem.
I pulled everything apart, pulled out the cmos Batt etc... Left over night.
I put it together outside the case on insulated material with 1 DIMM of RAM, HDD, Graphics Card. Same problem it eventually booted. Then it reboots fine first go while adding more and more hardware.
This is the problem once it does boot up I can reboot non stop as often as I like with no problems. If I switch off over night, when I go to cold boot in the morning it is a nightmare to get going. Is this something endemic to this board or is it a problem my particular motherboard. To me this inidcates that all the components work and that it is a motherboard problem.
I just want to know as it is only a week old and I can RMA for a new board if I do it in the next few days.
Thanks.

i'm starting to think that the problem could be related to the Graphics Card or PCI express slot. I did a second strip down of the system and noticed that when I removed the graphics card it hung on the DLED 'initalize floppy controller" and did not hang on the 'early chipset initialzation' . From BIOS changed the system setup to not to seek for A:floppy, then when I reboot (cold left overnight) without the graphics card it goes through to fully boot, can hear the HD booting up and get 4 green DLED's.(no output without a screen connected of course) The only trouble is that it virtually won't boot with my Leadtek 6800gt Graphics card at all now, it is taking 20 to 30 goes on a cold boot. However when it does it has been running for hours ok. I notice also that when I updated to the latest Nvidia Drivers, Thief 3 would start crashing in certain sections and rebooting the machine. Could this be the problem isolated stuffed Card or PCI express slot.

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From: M
Sent: Monday, May 16, 2005 8:02 PM
To: User Support
Subject: RE: 3 -- Customer Problem Description Form
Importance: High
Hello,
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From: MSI Technical Support Team USA [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2005 8:37 PM
To: M
Subject: RE: 3 -- Customer Problem Description Form
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