MSI K8T Neo and Mushkin 3200 Level II

I have read some of the posts about RAM and the K8T Neo, but I want some of your opinions on this. I have a 3200+ Athlon64 on the K8T and I am trying to use a 512MB DIMM of PC3200 Mushkin Level II in the board. The only other cards plugged into the board are the MSI D-Bracket (not the USB part, only the diagnostic part) and a Gainward Geforce 4 Ti4600. Usually I cannot even get the board to post with the Mushkin 3200 in the board. I have a stick of Muskin 2700 Level II and the board works fine with it using the Auto settings and I have even installed Windows XP using this memory. Whenever I try using the 3200, the D-Bracket freezes at the early chipset initilization. I have put the PC3200 stick in a Nforce2 board and the OS boots fine with no problems.
So is the problem the PC3200 or the board or both? Is the RAM not up to spec so it cannot handle the heftier requirements of the K8 but will work in the Nforce2 or can the board not handle/configure the better memory? Opinions?
Athlon64 3200+
512MB Mushkin PC3200 Level II
Gainward Geforce 4 Ti4600
WD 120GB SE
WD 200GB SE
Sparkle 400W PS

Good question. I bought them from New Egg around the beginning of the year. They have black heatsinks on them so it is really hard to tell. 5 or 6, I can't tell and wouldn't want to try to take them off at this point.
My experience with them was that I was running the ram in the bios with the default settings and was unable to completely install WinXP without problems/errors. After making the one change from 2 to 3 in the timings (noted earlier), every thing installed fine.
After updating to the 1.20 bios, I had a heck of a time getting into the bios. I thought I had hosed it. Then I realized that the bios set my RAM back to the default settings. One change and everything was fine again. NOTE: I still have an issue with both JUSB connectors being used and a random stop/hang/lock-up in the bios, but that is another issue.
I have run both the Prime95 test for 9 hours with no errors and also memtest86+ with no problems either.
Either way, I hope this helps you and anyone else.
Tim

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I have this motherboard:MSI K8T Neo-FIS2R (MS-6702) and currently i'm using a Kingston memory and the computer runs fine. But i've buyed TWINX1024-3200 (2xCMX512-3200 DDR400) but when I put only this memories the computer after some time or when booting restart suddenly...
Could it be about the bios version, my actual version is v1.0 and I'm using AMI BIOS.
i've runned memtest+ and i get this: http://korpro.org/numb/PICT1348.JPG

I am in almost the exact same situation.
MSI Neo-FIS2R
AMD XP 2800+
2 sticks of DDR400 Corsair XMS memory (CMX512-3200C2) 512mb each (total 1gig)
Any combination of memory together does not allow the motherboard to boot. I get no beeping or warning sounds. Everything powers up but the display remains blank.
Things I have tried in many different combinations:
TRCD = 5, 4, 3, auto
DDR Voltage = Auto, 2.7, 2.65
DDR 200, DDR 300, DDR 333, Auto
Memory in bank 1+2, 1+3, 2+3
Along with those bios setting combinations, I have tried using several bios versions:
v2.2
v2.0
v1.9
v1.8
v1.4 <--- (Stuck with this bios for the moment, since the ami flashing utility HANGS when attempting to erase the boot block in step 2 of flashing procedure for any newer bios.)
As a consequence of several days of trying unsuccessfully to get both sticks of memory to work, I have given up hope on this motherboard.
Why is it so difficult to get two sticks of memory working properly on this motherboard?
Has anyone got another trick or technique or setting I can try that may work?
Alternatives:
Scrap the MSI motherboard -- never buy another piece of MSI crap again.
Buy a single stick of 1gig memory.
Buy a new motherboard from another manufacturer known to work properly -- at the very least not have these memory configuration issues.
Worst motherboard experience I have ever had, unfortunately.

MSI k8T Neo and the Leadtek A400GT GeForce 6800GT

I have a K8T neo, unmodified northbridge, and was curious if anyone has slapped the Leadtek geforce 6800GT in this board and had any issues with it fitting? Thinking about purchasing. Thanks.

Quote from: Ui30 on 19-May-05, 18:54:24
Don't see why it wouldn't work.
But (of topic ...): why die GF6800? What I understand is that there may be some compatibility isues between nVidia GPU's and VIA-chipsets. Maybe you want to think about buying the ATi X800 card - so you won't have these issues. (Sorry, I don't know the exact details - it's what someone on the Duytch forum mentioned. I think it was Quadrifolio Verde, who is active on this board as well).
If I have any more issues whatsoever with this motherboard, I'm junking it. I have no heard of the issues with Nivida and VIA, thanks for the heads up. As for why the GF6800, it's the fastest card at the price point I'm looking at. I need something quick to drive high resolutions on an LCD.

MSI K8T NEO and Logitech keyboard problem

I have a Logitech Internet Navigator keyboard with all these mediakeys.
I'm using the onboard soundcard and the optical öutput on the board, but when I'm using the volume keys on the keyboard the volume dosn't change at all.
If I raise the Master volume in the sound control panel, nothing happens. Master volume has NO effekt, only the MUTE. But if i use the volume sliders for WAVE, I can control the sound again. The problem is that the keyboard is raising the MASTER volume in Windows, so my mediakeys has no effekt anymore.
Does anyone have the same problem or is it only a problem for the optical output?? I have tried installing keyboard and drivers in any possible combination just to be sure it wasn't me. Could this be a driver issue or am I missing something.

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Originally posted by Bibihest
I'm not running anything speciel in the background that I havn't been running before when it was working.
Just want to know if someone using the onboard sound and a keyboard has same problem as I I will try you tips later today to make sure it's no me who's making the error
I have the same keyboard, mobo +cpu as you and i have also enabled the soundcard so i dont think thats the issue. I'am waiting for your response hopefully you have solved it already.

MSI K8T NEO motherboard installtion diagram/instructions?

I am just putting my system togther
MSI K8T NEO FIS2R
Athlon64 3200+
2 X 512 MB OCZ EL pc 3200 memory + other stuff:
ANTEC TruePOwer 480 PS
LianLi 6089 case
I have never attached a mother board to a case before. There are no installtion diagrams that comes with the motherboard (or the case for that matter). Is the motherboard supposed to be screwed directly onto the case?
There is also a small bag with 2 items : one looks like a blasck plastic riser, about 1 inch high.It has the word LOTES embossed into it. The other is a faceplate with
2 1" x 1/2inch rectangular cutouts on the silvered side, and a square cutout, with a silver stripe down the midlle on the otherside which looks like aa beige plastic.
Are there any web accesible diagrams to show how this should be attached to the case?
Does anyone know what the black plastiic and metal plastic things with the cutouts are supposed to do?
Thanks.

Hi
This is a very expensive piece of gear for a first try, be very careful not to touch the board without first grounding yourself on the case, you really need a strap from your wrist fixed to case to clear static. There should be a packet of screws with the case, the brass posts screw onto back of case and the board fits onto them. Most cases are marked with the correct holes marked for type of board. the metal plate is for the back of case, you will have to remove the existing plate and replace it with this one to match with the outlets on board, The black plastic/metal riser sounds like the interference suppressor ring that goes over the wires going to front panel. The setting up of this board, fitting the CPU and Cooler, etc, should be left to someone who knows the way to fit it. Your local Computer shop may know someone to show you how it goes, or if you give an area where you are, some kind person on this list might help.

Probs with k8t neo and radeon 9500 non pro

Hi!
I´m totaly new with amd and i got a msi k8t neo and a sempron 2800+ with 1gb memory and a saphire radeon 9500 non pro and the computer does not start with that graphiccard.The processor fan just spins up a bit then it dies. But with a gforce 5200 card the computer works fine. I have tryed the saphire card in my server with a P4 1,6ghz and on that motherboard it works just fine.
Im from sweden so my english is not the best ;-)

Quote from: qTj on 17-November-05, 20:25:05
Yes i have tryed all those things. But my card works perfectly in 2 diffrent computers. So i dont think that the vidccard is broken.. But what do i know...
Well you know that othergfx cards do work oin ur board, so I still say you RMA it, or swap if with another card that will work
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"drulleförsäkringen"
translates like "fools insurance", apperently in Sweden U get a refund when u buy something and wreck it

MSI K8T NEO FSR with AMD 64 3200 - Can´t install WIN XP

Hi.
I´m writing you because i have a problem with an MSI K8t-Neo FSR.
The description of my PC:
MSI K8t-Neo FSR
AMD 64bits 3200 (640 cache)
HD 160 SATA Seagate Barracuda
1gb DDR 400mhz
Floppy 3 1/2
CDRW 52x32x52 LG
Video ATI RADEON 9600 XT
The problem is the following:
When I try to install Windows XP, when I press F8 to accept the Terms, it shows me an error message (IO 104 i think) and it hangs up or reboot.
I tried with another two Proccessors and motherboards (same model obviously) but it didn´t work.
Could it be a defectuous production serie of that model????
Or what do you think the problem is????
Thank you very much for your help.
I´ll be waiting for your answer!
Lucas Revale
PF: I´ve already tried updating the BIOS.

Thank you all for trying to help me!!!
I've already tried using only te necesary drivers.
I´ve also tried another VGA, another HD, another CDRW, another power supply, and an AMD 64 2800+.
It seems to be that the three motherboards i tried were defectous.
Does anyone has any other idea?!?!?
I´d really aprecciate your help!

AMD64 3200 + MSI K8T Neo FISR2 memory problem

I've had one KVR400X64C25/512 and it have worked like a charm. Now I've bought another one (total 1gb).
When I've inserted it and start the computer I only get the CoreCell logo scren, it do not boot correctly.
AMIBIOS is version 3.21a
I've tried the following:
* run only the new memory [works]
* run only the old memory [works]
* DIMM1 + DIMM3 [only CoreCell screen]
* DIMM1 + DIMM2 [only CoreCell screen]
* DIMM2 + DIMM3 [only a black screen]
what should I do?

Quote from: Tiresmoke on 22-August-05, 21:48:12
A PSU is rated to run at +/-5% and that is well within it's rating. As for wether ists big enough there is no way we can say as you still did not give full system specs.
If it won't run with the third stick of RAM then pull it out for the moment and see if the system will boot again. If it does then during post you will see a Bios version listed. That board only supports Bios versions to 2.2 at the moment so please also list what actuall Bios version you have.
Ok, have booted with one instead of two sticks (one works, two don't, do not have three sticks)..
AMIBIOS A6702VMS v2.2 released 030405. The autodetect settings (at startup): Clock = 400Mhz, CAS 2.5 which seems correct.
More info:
AMD64 3200
MSI K8T Neo FISR2
AMIBIOS A6702VMS v2.2
Seagate 120GB SATA (no ides)
CD rw + DVD-r combo drive
floppy drive
Saphire GF6800 (no GT or Ultra)
Creative Audigy 2 Platinum Ex
that's whats running in it

MSI K8T Neo-FIS2R (Socket 754) and Corsair 1GB DDR Value Select PC3200 Kit (2x512MB)

Hi I just ordered the following from overclockers.co.uk and wanting some confirmation that the memory will be compatible with this Mother board
Corsair 1GB DDR Value Select PC3200 Kit (2x512MB) and MSI K8T Neo-FIS2R
Thanks
Kevin

kevtucker,
I'm running the same setup up as you and have not experienced any ram related problems so far. I'm happy with it and it is very stable.
Every ram has different settings. For the corsair 1gb value select (2x512mb) you must make sure you use these settings for the best results:
put them in slots 1 and 3.
use the settings 2.5-3-3-8
set the ddr voltage 2.7
I got that information straight from the official corsair forums:
http://www.houseofhelp.com/forums/showindex.php?t=24410
Good luck.

Msi k8t neo fis2r problems part 3

sometimes when the computer is turned on it just turns the fans and leds on but doesnt boot up...
most of the time it loads up and i boot to the windows xp cd and i install the drivers for sata and then when it reaches the point of copying the files it will give me a bsod and say that there is a problem with the irql driver and then force me to shut the pc down..
sometimes it makes it past that and will begin to copy files onto the hard drive, like somehow the data is becoming corrupted..however it will start to say that the files cant copy randomly and it will allow me to retry..they will copy the 2nd time usually..i can keep hitting retry and it will usually go by..it gets to 30 something % and then crashes to bsod just giving me some random error..for some reason the files keep screwing up that go on the sata drive....I just replaced the old power supply that wasnt working with an antec true watt 430 watt power supply, so i know it isnt that..
i just cant figure out what the heck is going on..any help would be appreciated.my specs are
"IRQ NOT EQUAL OR LESS"
athlon 64 3000+ cpu
msi k8t neo fis2r motherboard
mushkin special cas 2.0 2-2-2-5 512 mb pc 3200
western digital 8mb cache 80 gb sata hard drive
sapphire radeon 9800 pro 128 mb 8x agp

fyi look an your cd sticker ity will show power, consumption, but they are way lower than you would think, hard drives,can be only 10 watts, less then some case lights , and fans, cd are similar.. your video, is the biggy somewhere between 90~150 watts..yikes .next to the cpu..and the mobo can use 50 or so (not sure about new mobos) not to mention the ram 1024 is @40 watts or so., dont forget about 25watts per pci card, not counting the sound card which can be double....
ergo the need for a big psu..
the combined total ratting on a psu is not the max number that the psu is rated, that is surge value.. so a 500 may only hold 400 sustained , and that will drop as the machine heats up, so in the end your 500 may onlyy pull 366 @50'c...

MSI K8T Neo-FIS2R - Suggestions

Hi,
I have just ordered these parts:
AMD Athlon 64 3200 (Socket 754) - Retail (CP-060-AM)
Asus DVD-E616P1 16X DVD-ROM / 48X CD-ROM - Retail (CD-002-AS)
Western Digital Caviar 120GB Special Edition 8MB Cache Serial ATA - OEM (HD-009-WD)
Antec Sonata Piano Black Quiet Case - 380W TruePower Silent PSU (CA-003-AT)
MSI K8T Neo-FIS2R (Socket 754) Motherboard (MB-010-MS)
Sapphire Radeon 9800Pro
I am still stuck on RAM, despite searching other topics. Which PC3200 RAM actually works to the speed that it should, I'm not convinced by the MSI list.
Will Kingston HyperX PC3200 work to its full standard? I was initially looking at KingMax PC3500 RAM which is a lot cheaper, however it seems pointless to spend so much on quality parts and then get cheap RAM(although PC3500 should be faster, I assume it shouldn't make any difference if I'm not overclocking). I don't think I can quite afford Mushkin RAM, as I have about £220 for 1GB.
Secondly, with my PSU be able to power the system without overclocking?
Thanks for any ideas.

I would also suggest a better PSU, I had a Enermax 350W before and it only just coped + a high pitched whining sound
Plus a Pentium 4 and an AMD64 = not equivalent in terms of power consumption. If you already have that PSU, then fair enough try it. But if your still planning to buy it... I would go for a better one. Just my 2 cents

[Athlon64] MSI K8T NEO-V : incompatibility with ATI RADEON 9800 PRO

Hi,
I read all the subjets on this forum about Radeon problems with MSI K8T NEO motherboard. Most of the peple can't use their graphic card in all situations.
My PC is :
-MSI K8T NEO-V
-AMD-64 3200
-Power : 400W
-ATI RADEON 9800 PRO
-1 Go DDRAM (2x512 in single channel)
-Hercules Digifires 7.1
I bought a new MSI K8T NEO-V with AMD 64.
The problem is that I can't use the computer in the games with AGP 8X even if I try to enable-disable all the options possibles in BIOS and Windows (fast write ...) : The computer freeze (screen disapear as if there was no video signal), reboot or return to Windows disabling the accelerated mode.
But in AGP 4X, all the game run without problem with all setups of BIOS !!!
I tried all the drivers (the new and the old drivers). Even if all are updated, it freeze.
There are no BIOS update for my motherboard. I saw that some people had BIOS update for compatibility with some Radeon cards ...
So, I don't know how to repair the problem because AGP 8X is AGP 8X and not 4X, and my Radeon run fine on other computer, and nothing say that Radeon 9800 pro don't run on this motherboard.
Does someone have the solution to make it work ? Does a new BIOS or driver update exist somewhere for Radeon cards ?

What Bas said about 30+ amps on the 12v rail does have merit. Even if you don't use it now there may come a time when you want to upgrade the system and certainly you won't want to buy yet another PSU then. A High end vid card now takes almost as much as the CPU to operate. Now days the 12v rail is the most important. Past systems regulated everything off the 5v railk and 12v was used mostly for powering drive motors. Now though the MB's use the 12v line to regulate all the voltages for the CPU, Chipset and other features as does the Vid cards. 3.3 volt lines are used for memory so we hardly use any 5v nowdays.
You have an older viod card and that does not eat much 12v but if you upgrade the most likely peice will be the vid card. You could go through this whole thing all over again if you are not careful to plan for that now with a new PSU purchase.
If the computer shop gives you a bunch of bull about power needs havbe them stop by the forum and we can help set them straight on this. There is more than enough data from MSI and historical data here that suggests that 16a on the 12v rail is certainly not enough. Hey I am not trying to sell you anything. I am just trying to help you get it right. The computer shop is the one trying to sell you something we just feel they are selling the wrong junk.

MSI K8T Neo - Video switch off, sound glitches

Hi
First post, and im hoping someone can PLEASE help me.
Im currently using the following:
MSI K8T Neo FISR-2 Mobo (pretty sure thats it)
64 AMD 3200+
512 DDR @ 333
2 IDE HDs
GEXCUBE 9600XT etc etc
Now problem 1) I use my computer for work alot, i.e I use Microsoft word, and im typing away getting alot of work done when all of a sudden, blank screen, it acts like i havent touched anything and just powered down the monitor, but no matter what i do i cant get it back up and thus i have to reboot. (This occurs after around 15 odd minutes of work on word)
-Ive tried everything i can think of, updated whatever, even taken to computer places and they have no idea, rebooted CMOS, havent update BIOS cause im scared but if you got any ideas let me know
Problem 2) not as bad as the first but my sound, using onboard AC97 and Logitech Z640s i have this weird static shitty background scrathcy noise which is annoying, and i cant get it cleared up.
-Tried updating drivers etc, sounds not maxed out, even get the sound when i switch off the speakers and plug in my headphonse so...
If you can help on either of these things please either reply here or email me on [email protected]
THANKYOU!!!

For ATI related monitor signal loss issues, check here:
Rage3D forum direct link
I personally have a AIW9600Pro and haven't experience the aforementioned problems, so I don't know what to add, but I'm sure these folks at Rage3D forums can help. It's already upto 15 pages, so there must be some useful info in there...
For statics, I find that by turning off Mic Gain (or sometimes called Mic Boost) from your Windows Volume control sometimes does the trick. If you use extension cables, you might want to check for interference, too.
Hope this helps,
David

MSI K8T Neo-FIS2R VIA K8T800 Issues

I am thining of switching from a P4 system to a athlon 64 system. Only I have a few problems.
Will I be able to use an amd athlon 64 3000+ on the MSI K8T Neo-FIS2R VIA K8T800 motherboard??
and also will I be able to use my OCZ 1GB (512x2) DDR533Mhz PC 4200 RAM (DUAL CHANNEL) on the motherboard as well?

Hi
I use Elixir from Ebuyers, thats the cheapest I could find, works flawlessly on the AMD 64 3200+, the label says
' M2U51264D88HB3G-5T
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The sticks were taken from a KT4 Ultra, where they also worked faultlessly.
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MSI K8T Neo - System & Application crash/reboot

Windows XP Pro, SP 1
MSI K8T Neo-FIS2R Via K8T800 Athlon 64
AMD Athlon 64 3200+ Processor
Corsair CMX512-3200C2PT 512MB DDR400 PC3200 XMS X (2)
ATI Radeon 9800 Pro
REVOLUTION 7.1 PCI SURROUND
VANTEC ION VAN-400B (400W) Serial ATA
Running the CL @ 2.5 and the other timings are set to auto via the BIOS. Ran Microsoft memory diagnostic all last night and got over 120 passes successfully. Problems have occurred when playing fairly intensive video games, e.g. Blade & Sword. Sometimes it will just reboot out of nowhere and sometimes the game will immediately stop and I will see just the desktop. Nothing posts on the Event Viewer for Application or System logs. When the machine reboots it appears to display a memory dump and when you follow the post on the Microsoft site it ascertains that it is a driver issue, yet it is not specific enough to tell you which driver. I have updated all the drivers from MSI and ATI, and am running Cool & Quiet.
If you know what I might try to do in attempts to fix this please let me know.

hey thanks for your reply. yes i made sure everything was enabled and i just fixed my own problem. just for the heck on it i called msi tech support [talked to a real smart fella] and he told me that sometimes you need to jumper the drive when your using a single hard drive. i played with it a few minutes and it worked. its installing xp right now. i guess you learn something new everyday.

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