MSI K8T Neo - does it support ddr2 modules?

Quote from: Zoolisha on 03-July-07, 06:05:07
tnx :(
its a CPU problem not a mobo. don't be disappointed from the board. if the CPU can work with DDR2 the board will have those DIMM slots.
i mean if you got board with DDR2 memory support and also have DDR2 memory sticks, you have to change CPU as well.

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Quote from: Zoolisha on 03-July-07, 06:05:07
tnx :(
its a CPU problem not a mobo. don't be disappointed from the board. if the CPU can work with DDR2 the board will have those DIMM slots.
i mean if you got board with DDR2 memory support and also have DDR2 memory sticks, you have to change CPU as well.

MSI K8T Neo D-Bracket Early Initialization

Hi,
I recently put togther my computer
-msi k8t neo fisr
-athlon 64 3200
-thermaltake xaser II case
-hardcano II
-thermaltake xaser III 480w power supply
-thermaltake silent boost k8 fan and heatsink
-2x 512 corsair xms 3200 v1.1 cl2
-samsung 16x dvd rom
-ati radeon 9700 pro /w zalman heatsink
Im kinda newbie at making computers(only my second time making a comp)
For some reason my computer hangs at early chipset initialization nothing shows up on screen, when i take out everything my computer beeps 3 times in intervals and still hangs on early initiliaztion.When i just put my memory in, the beeps stop but comp still hangs at early intialization.Anyone got any ideas?Could it be i installed my cpu wrong? bad video card?Or could it be i put in the pins wrong? Well thnx for looking and i appreciate any help.
Thnx

We have seen this happen alot in the P4 Forum, As There seems to be numerous Members that are having some compatability issues with the ATI-9700, Pro, and Non Pro VPU's . Someone Contacted ATI Tech. Support Directely and recieved this Response >> Dated Dec 24, 2003 at 01:10 PM reply
Hi David,
This video card has a know problem with the some of the MSI manufactured motherboards. It seems that the Boards involved are the VIA series, and the INTEL i865PE series. The only ATI cards that work have to have a serial # with -30 at the end or higher or they will not work. Because this card is discontinued our supplier cannot gaurantee a -30 card as a replacement. We can only exchange for a different item within the first 15 days so the only thing I can suggest is to see if you have a friend that may want to buy the card as there is probably nothing wrong with it and then buy another one. Any of the new 9600 or 9800 series don't have this problem. If you have any other questions let me know. Thanks alot.
Ryan S. Senior Tech. ATI Canada
I hope that this is Not the case with your Board. And now we have also seen that this compatability issue is NOT Just limited to the i865PE's as I have seen Threads involving both the SIS 655 and the INTEL i875P MSI Boards also.
I have also recieved word that some of the Rev.1-A 9700 Boards were also only 4 Layer PCB's, Not the Normal 5 Layer, and this is Leading to the Graphic Cards NOT Making Good Contact in the AGP Slot. And I have Read that this can be somewhat remedied by trying to (Gently) Making sure that the Card is inserted Completely into the Slot, also try (Again very gently) wiggling the Card back, and forth, to help establish better contact with the cards Gold Fingers, and the slot itself........I dont know, check and see if your Card is one of the -30 Cards, or look in SANDRA, and Under "Information Module", select "PCI, AGP, Card Reader" and Check AGP, and see what the Rev. is for your Card if it has the (A_1) then it may be a Thin one , I know; sounds rediculous, does'nt it? Sorry I could not Be of Any more assistance........Let us know.........SEAN REILLY875

[Athlon64] MSI K8T Neo FIS2R BIOS Update when? CnQ no workie!

The MSI K8T Neo FIS2R (MS-6702) hasn't had a BIOS update since 3-4-2005!
I put a Sempron 64 3000+ in my motherboard, and was very disappointed that it is recognized as an "AMD Unknown Processor". Sure, it works, but one of the reasons I bought it is in the hopes of getting AMD Cool n Quiet to work. However, apparently the AMD driver can't recognize the CPU due to the old BIOS on the motherboard.
Every other MSI skt 754 board supports Sempron E6 revision already. Why not the K8T Neo FIS2R? Where have all the MSI BIOS programmers gone? I have been waiting 2-months for a BIOS update to support the E6 Semprons. I have asked and begged MSI Tech Support. I am tempted to switch to ASUS or some other company that is actually timely with BIOS updates. Only reason I haven't yet, is this board is everything I want EXCEPT for Cool n Quiet not working. It's starting to look like there is no BIOS update in sight, so I am very disappointed.
Anyone here work for MSI can confirm there are no plans for a BIOS update? Because I don't want to wait around for something that's not going to happen.

Sorry, I didn't mean to imply I thought the mods here are MSI staff... I was just kind of hoping there's MSI staff lurking here, seeing what people think of their products or seeing what people complain about.
No, pretty much C 'n Q is the only reason I'm disappointed, but it was something I was really set on getting to work since this is a server that's up 24/7, but isn't utilized but maybe 4hrs out of a given day. I could reduce frequency and voltage, but unlike C 'n Q, it won't automatically increase speed and voltage based on demand - which is something I want since although it's a server, I also use it as a regular PC as well.
I've even tried the 2.33 beta BIOS with no change, and even found a 5.52 BIOS in their BIOS testing directory. I guess that BIOS was for a different kind of 6702, although I had pulled out the peripheral modules with AMI's MMTOOL and they looked the same as the existing BIOS, but that BIOS killed my motherboard so it couldn't have been for a regular 6702. I had to desolder the BIOS chip with a heat gun, reprogram the old BIOS back on it with an EPROM programmer, and solder in a socket. I guess that shows my dedication to get C 'n Q working!

MSI K8T Neo-FIS2R won't power-up

My MSI K8T Neo-FIS2R won't power up when I switch it on. All that happens is the fans "jolt" a few millimeters and that's it
Using an X-Pro 460w which does work as I have tested it on this PC
Any help would be greatly appreciated

I think I have found out the problem
Using my old Enermax (350) I was able to boot up the AMD 64 2800 every time but the PSU made this weird electrical sound - I think because it was being overloaded (I think as it doesn't make this sound when used with my XP 1800). I then reverted back to my new X-Pro (460w) and after a few attempts I managed to get the ram module and CPU powered... slowly adding more fans it became harder to boot and eventually the GPU fan wouldn't run once I plugged another fan in... I'm guessing this is because my PSU is too weak to power the juice guzzling AMD
I'll need to break the bank once again I suppose

MSI K8T Neo-V Not Seeing SATA HD

i just completed building a new system:
MSI K8T Neo-V motherboard
amd 3200
160 SATA HD
im trying to setup to use just the one hard drive but bios will not recognize it. it does see the dvdrw but not the hard drive. i made sure the sata cable and power were plugged in. i even tried installing xp then f6 to load the raid driver but still no luck. please any help would be greatly appreciated.

hey thanks for your reply. yes i made sure everything was enabled and i just fixed my own problem. just for the heck on it i called msi tech support [talked to a real smart fella] and he told me that sometimes you need to jumper the drive when your using a single hard drive. i played with it a few minutes and it worked. its installing xp right now. i guess you learn something new everyday.

AMD64 3200 + MSI K8T Neo FISR2 memory problem

I've had one KVR400X64C25/512 and it have worked like a charm. Now I've bought another one (total 1gb).
When I've inserted it and start the computer I only get the CoreCell logo scren, it do not boot correctly.
AMIBIOS is version 3.21a
I've tried the following:
* run only the new memory [works]
* run only the old memory [works]
* DIMM1 + DIMM3 [only CoreCell screen]
* DIMM1 + DIMM2 [only CoreCell screen]
* DIMM2 + DIMM3 [only a black screen]
what should I do?

Quote from: Tiresmoke on 22-August-05, 21:48:12
A PSU is rated to run at +/-5% and that is well within it's rating. As for wether ists big enough there is no way we can say as you still did not give full system specs.
If it won't run with the third stick of RAM then pull it out for the moment and see if the system will boot again. If it does then during post you will see a Bios version listed. That board only supports Bios versions to 2.2 at the moment so please also list what actuall Bios version you have.
Ok, have booted with one instead of two sticks (one works, two don't, do not have three sticks)..
AMIBIOS A6702VMS v2.2 released 030405. The autodetect settings (at startup): Clock = 400Mhz, CAS 2.5 which seems correct.
More info:
AMD64 3200
MSI K8T Neo FISR2
AMIBIOS A6702VMS v2.2
Seagate 120GB SATA (no ides)
CD rw + DVD-r combo drive
floppy drive
Saphire GF6800 (no GT or Ultra)
Creative Audigy 2 Platinum Ex
that's whats running in it

[Athlon64] MSI K8T NEO-V : incompatibility with ATI RADEON 9800 PRO

Hi,
I read all the subjets on this forum about Radeon problems with MSI K8T NEO motherboard. Most of the peple can't use their graphic card in all situations.
My PC is :
-MSI K8T NEO-V
-AMD-64 3200
-Power : 400W
-ATI RADEON 9800 PRO
-1 Go DDRAM (2x512 in single channel)
-Hercules Digifires 7.1
I bought a new MSI K8T NEO-V with AMD 64.
The problem is that I can't use the computer in the games with AGP 8X even if I try to enable-disable all the options possibles in BIOS and Windows (fast write ...) : The computer freeze (screen disapear as if there was no video signal), reboot or return to Windows disabling the accelerated mode.
But in AGP 4X, all the game run without problem with all setups of BIOS !!!
I tried all the drivers (the new and the old drivers). Even if all are updated, it freeze.
There are no BIOS update for my motherboard. I saw that some people had BIOS update for compatibility with some Radeon cards ...
So, I don't know how to repair the problem because AGP 8X is AGP 8X and not 4X, and my Radeon run fine on other computer, and nothing say that Radeon 9800 pro don't run on this motherboard.
Does someone have the solution to make it work ? Does a new BIOS or driver update exist somewhere for Radeon cards ?

What Bas said about 30+ amps on the 12v rail does have merit. Even if you don't use it now there may come a time when you want to upgrade the system and certainly you won't want to buy yet another PSU then. A High end vid card now takes almost as much as the CPU to operate. Now days the 12v rail is the most important. Past systems regulated everything off the 5v railk and 12v was used mostly for powering drive motors. Now though the MB's use the 12v line to regulate all the voltages for the CPU, Chipset and other features as does the Vid cards. 3.3 volt lines are used for memory so we hardly use any 5v nowdays.
You have an older viod card and that does not eat much 12v but if you upgrade the most likely peice will be the vid card. You could go through this whole thing all over again if you are not careful to plan for that now with a new PSU purchase.
If the computer shop gives you a bunch of bull about power needs havbe them stop by the forum and we can help set them straight on this. There is more than enough data from MSI and historical data here that suggests that 16a on the 12v rail is certainly not enough. Hey I am not trying to sell you anything. I am just trying to help you get it right. The computer shop is the one trying to sell you something we just feel they are selling the wrong junk.

Calling all old MSI K8T Neo-FIS2R users

Ops i posted this in the wrong forum first time, this is the right place
This for all MSI K8T Neo-FIS2R users, that have changed to the new MSI K8N Platinum nForce3 250 mobo, if I have the chance to swap to the new board should I do so, or does this mobo have its fair share of problems?
Is the MSI K8N Platinum nForce3 250, a better board compared to the old MSI K8T Neo-FIS2R? Not taking into account overclocking.
Like is the onboard sound the same or worse or better in your opinion? Is it any faster at stock? Are there any other advantages?
Thx Xe

I had a K8T Neo Fis2r at first. I got a K8N Neo because I believed my Blue Screens were a faulty K8T Neo. As it turned out, the Audigy2 I had in there was the problem, because I still got Blue Screens with the K8N Neo, and when I took out the audigy and used onboard my system ran stable.
I havent had any of the apparent keyboard controller problems, or ANY other problems with the K8N. My only instabilities have been the Audigy2's fault.
Havent tried overclocking on the K8N Neo yet, maybe a little down the road. As far as features go, the K8N has the hardware firewall on it (which I dont use) but apparently its "true" gigabit ethernet is better than the K8Ts. Dont ask me to clarify that, lol
btw Got my turtle beach Santa Cruz today and put it in my K8N Neo, crossing my fingers... =\

MSI K8T Neo - Video switch off, sound glitches

Hi
First post, and im hoping someone can PLEASE help me.
Im currently using the following:
MSI K8T Neo FISR-2 Mobo (pretty sure thats it)
64 AMD 3200+
512 DDR @ 333
2 IDE HDs
GEXCUBE 9600XT etc etc
Now problem 1) I use my computer for work alot, i.e I use Microsoft word, and im typing away getting alot of work done when all of a sudden, blank screen, it acts like i havent touched anything and just powered down the monitor, but no matter what i do i cant get it back up and thus i have to reboot. (This occurs after around 15 odd minutes of work on word)
-Ive tried everything i can think of, updated whatever, even taken to computer places and they have no idea, rebooted CMOS, havent update BIOS cause im scared but if you got any ideas let me know
Problem 2) not as bad as the first but my sound, using onboard AC97 and Logitech Z640s i have this weird static shitty background scrathcy noise which is annoying, and i cant get it cleared up.
-Tried updating drivers etc, sounds not maxed out, even get the sound when i switch off the speakers and plug in my headphonse so...
If you can help on either of these things please either reply here or email me on [email protected]
THANKYOU!!!

For ATI related monitor signal loss issues, check here:
Rage3D forum direct link
I personally have a AIW9600Pro and haven't experience the aforementioned problems, so I don't know what to add, but I'm sure these folks at Rage3D forums can help. It's already upto 15 pages, so there must be some useful info in there...
For statics, I find that by turning off Mic Gain (or sometimes called Mic Boost) from your Windows Volume control sometimes does the trick. If you use extension cables, you might want to check for interference, too.
Hope this helps,
David

Motherboard Monitor settings for MSI K8T Neo-FIS2R

I'm new to motherboard monitor and there are no predefined settings available for the MSI K8T Neo-FIS2R.
Anyone help me with the appropriate settings to monitor temps and fans?

Lunchbox,
Yeah I can do that - but I'm not confident of the settings or readings. For example - the CPU temp Is only sort of correct if I set it to sensor Winbond 2 2N3904. But after displaying what I believe is correct for a few seconds it changes to something ridiculous like 7C. I've tried all the other board sensors listed and they either say my CPU temp is 118C or 7C. System temp seems to work, but again I'm not sure. Hence my post here.
It is also odd that CoreCenter and MBM disagree about a few things. Like the +12.00 rail Corecenter says 12.00v and MBM says 12.22V. Or Fan 1 that is easly 2X what corecenter says.
And if you run CoreCenter WHILE running MBM all kinds of wierdness happens - like CPU temp fluctutating wildly or CPU fan speed synchronizing and then not.
Plus clock speed is a consistent 2001 with CC and 1998 with MBM.
So I want someone who knows what they are doing to do the configs - clearly that's not me.

Will Gainward 6800GT fit my MSI K8T NEO FIS2R?

Horror picture on a ABIT NF7-S
I saw this picture and saw that the card i extremely long!
Anyone here on the forum that can guarantee that my Gainward 6800GT card (with a red gainward cooler) will fit on my MSI K8T NEO FIS2R?
MSI K8T NEO FIS2R
Please?

I think I have found out the problem
Using my old Enermax (350) I was able to boot up the AMD 64 2800 every time but the PSU made this weird electrical sound - I think because it was being overloaded (I think as it doesn't make this sound when used with my XP 1800). I then reverted back to my new X-Pro (460w) and after a few attempts I managed to get the ram module and CPU powered... slowly adding more fans it became harder to boot and eventually the GPU fan wouldn't run once I plugged another fan in... I'm guessing this is because my PSU is too weak to power the juice guzzling AMD
I'll need to break the bank once again I suppose

[Athlon64] Electromagnetic Interference on my MSI K8T Neo 2 FIR MBO

I have a system built around a MSI K8T Neo 2 FIR Athlon64 3000+
Recently I've put a poratable TV near the PC (1.5 meters or so) and noticed quite strong interference on VHF TV channels.
First I thought that it came from the case itself, but I discovered that the interference practically dissapeared when I unplugged the PS2 keyboard.
So I thought that it was the keyboard and bought another basic PS2 Logitech one. No difference at all.
Then I bought a USB cheapo keyboard, only to find out that the interference doubled, at least.
I tested the interference with my TV, using the room "antenna", actually a coaxial cable plugged in the antenna socket of the TV with the other emd free, and the central vire just physically clamped with a metallic "crocodile" clamp. A loop on that side and this is the best room antenna money can buy!
I approached the end loop to the keyboard and its cord. I showed an extraordinary amount od unterference. the TV image turned to snow and the sound started hissing.
My guess is that the Keyboard acts like an antenna for the MBO and transmists interference to the outside, probably trought the voltage line.
Or I could have flawed keyboards, but tree... and PS2 AND USB!?
My power supply is not in question. I tried two, high quality ones of different producers - no difference at all.
Anybody had similar interference experience with this or other MSI boards?
Did you succeed to solve it?
I often read that LCD monitors are better for your health because they radiate less, but I tested my old CRT monitor, and it produces much less EM interference than my keyboards!!!
Any Ideas? Bad MBO?

What does that option "spread spectrum" do?
I have Bios 3.3 (I think), I will check if I have this option at all at reboot. I can't remember seeing it?
The interference is not affecting the monitor,which is LCD, but a small TV set, 1.5 meters away from the PC.
IT is not coming from the case (which has no transparent side) but from the keyboard(s) and keyboard wires (both USB and PS2 keyboards produce inteference).
I tested it precisely with a coaxial cable acting like an antenna with a looop at the end and a simple crocodile clamp fixed on the central wire (this produces a very ensitive antenna witch can precisely pinpoint the source of interference. When I approach the loop of he coaxial cable to the keyboard it produces strong "snow" on the TV image and a hissing sound (The TV is set to a local VHF TV station).
So I guess that the keyboard is acting like an antenna , leading interference from the Mainboard out.
I did a little search on the internet and it s amazing how many people with various computers have interference problems from keyboards.
Information comes mainly from radio amateurs who use computers to control sophisticated radio equippment and suffer interference in their reception.
I bet that many people have it and not being radio amateurs or not having a TV near their PC they are not aware of it. Many of you reading this probably have electomagnetic emissions emanating from your keyboards.
But what worries me in this story is that these electromagnetic radiations are not exactly healthy.
I bought a new LCD monitor precisely because I read in many magazines that LCDs radiate less than CRTs. But since it appears that my keaboard is radiating much more than my old CRT, it kind of defeats the purpose...
These things shouldn't happen because computer components, MBOs included, should comply with FCC standards (class B) and a keyboard should not act as an emitting antenna for electromagnetic interference from the mainboard. But it seems that many manufacturers are not really complying with EMI/RFI standards.
This seams to be a very weak point for many computer components, from what I saw on the internet after some Googling.
Some guy even tested all the computer equipment in his company and found out that 90% were not FCC standards compliant, even if they claimed they were !!!
Needless to say that I am not happy, and should it appear that MSI is to blame for my problem, they will hear from me.
I will try some other keyboards, some top of the line this time, made in Germany not in Taiwan. If they produce the same interference, then I will be sure that this is MSI's fault and that the interference is not produced in the keyboard itself but just transmitted to it from the mainboard.

MSI K8T Neo - System & Application crash/reboot

Windows XP Pro, SP 1
MSI K8T Neo-FIS2R Via K8T800 Athlon 64
AMD Athlon 64 3200+ Processor
Corsair CMX512-3200C2PT 512MB DDR400 PC3200 XMS X (2)
ATI Radeon 9800 Pro
REVOLUTION 7.1 PCI SURROUND
VANTEC ION VAN-400B (400W) Serial ATA
Running the CL @ 2.5 and the other timings are set to auto via the BIOS. Ran Microsoft memory diagnostic all last night and got over 120 passes successfully. Problems have occurred when playing fairly intensive video games, e.g. Blade & Sword. Sometimes it will just reboot out of nowhere and sometimes the game will immediately stop and I will see just the desktop. Nothing posts on the Event Viewer for Application or System logs. When the machine reboots it appears to display a memory dump and when you follow the post on the Microsoft site it ascertains that it is a driver issue, yet it is not specific enough to tell you which driver. I have updated all the drivers from MSI and ATI, and am running Cool & Quiet.
If you know what I might try to do in attempts to fix this please let me know.

hey thanks for your reply. yes i made sure everything was enabled and i just fixed my own problem. just for the heck on it i called msi tech support [talked to a real smart fella] and he told me that sometimes you need to jumper the drive when your using a single hard drive. i played with it a few minutes and it worked. its installing xp right now. i guess you learn something new everyday.

[MSI K8T Neo-FIS2R] 2xCMX512-3200 DDR400 memories (corsair)

I have this motherboard:MSI K8T Neo-FIS2R (MS-6702) and currently i'm using a Kingston memory and the computer runs fine. But i've buyed TWINX1024-3200 (2xCMX512-3200 DDR400) but when I put only this memories the computer after some time or when booting restart suddenly...
Could it be about the bios version, my actual version is v1.0 and I'm using AMI BIOS.
i've runned memtest+ and i get this: http://korpro.org/numb/PICT1348.JPG

I am in almost the exact same situation.
MSI Neo-FIS2R
AMD XP 2800+
2 sticks of DDR400 Corsair XMS memory (CMX512-3200C2) 512mb each (total 1gig)
Any combination of memory together does not allow the motherboard to boot. I get no beeping or warning sounds. Everything powers up but the display remains blank.
Things I have tried in many different combinations:
TRCD = 5, 4, 3, auto
DDR Voltage = Auto, 2.7, 2.65
DDR 200, DDR 300, DDR 333, Auto
Memory in bank 1+2, 1+3, 2+3
Along with those bios setting combinations, I have tried using several bios versions:
v2.2
v2.0
v1.9
v1.8
v1.4 <--- (Stuck with this bios for the moment, since the ami flashing utility HANGS when attempting to erase the boot block in step 2 of flashing procedure for any newer bios.)
As a consequence of several days of trying unsuccessfully to get both sticks of memory to work, I have given up hope on this motherboard.
Why is it so difficult to get two sticks of memory working properly on this motherboard?
Has anyone got another trick or technique or setting I can try that may work?
Alternatives:
Scrap the MSI motherboard -- never buy another piece of MSI crap again.
Buy a single stick of 1gig memory.
Buy a new motherboard from another manufacturer known to work properly -- at the very least not have these memory configuration issues.
Worst motherboard experience I have ever had, unfortunately.

MSI K8T Neo - does it support ddr2 modules?

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