MSI K9A2 CF Memory problem?

I have a pc with a MSI K9A2 CF mobo running with a 1.2V bios
this 1: http://global.msi.eu/index.php?func=proddesc&prod_no=1333&maincat_no=1&cat2_no=171&cat3_no=537
Phenom 9600
3gb ddr2
ATI HD3850 512 mb
1 terra HD
Vista 64 home prem.
Now i have 3gb ddr2 from Geil
it's pc2 6400 800mhz cl 4-4-4-12
with 2x 512mb en 2x 1gb
I installed Vista 64 home premium and bought 8 gigs DDR2, it's 2 sets of 4gb
this 1: http://www.geil.com.tw/products/showSpec/id/52 they have thesame specs only its cl 5-5-5-15 and 1.8v instead of 2.1 volt, my old are 2.1V.
When i plug em in and turn on my PC i wont get any signal AT ALL, my monitor doesnt even react and stays on standby mode. I re-plugged my old memory and everything works fine. I changed the volts, which were on 2.1V, to 1.8V in my Bios and tried again, no reaction. I tried several combinatiosn and only 1 set of the new memory but it doesnt work.
Is it mayb the BIOS that needs an update or should i change Volt AND the CL 5-5-5-15 timings?
According to the website of MSI my mobo would be able to use the new memory i bought doesnt it?
I hope any1 of u experts got an idea =)
thx
Gaarman, holland.

Well, put command rate at 2T and try all 4 sticks, however it might fail again as the CPU needs to be able to start before the BIOS kicks in.
Judging on your higher needed voltage, these sticks are not very good....
On your link:
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*note: All DDR2 Value 800 modules were tested on NForce 4 Intel Edition, Intel 955 and Intel 975 platform mother boards for performance, stability and compatibility.
This doesn't sound very promising either.
AMD is NOT Intel, it has a far faster memory controller then the listed testing systems....else try DDR667 and see what happens if you use that speed.

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