MSI K9N DIAMOND CA0106 chipset AUDIGY or SOUNDBLASTER LIVE 24

I have 2 PC's one with an MSI K8N SLI PLATINUM mobo with onboard SOUNDBLASTER 24bit li've (CA006)
http://global.msi.com.tw/index.php?func=proddesc&prod_no=69&maincat_no=&cat 2_no=&cat3_no=
This system has run fine for over 2-/2 years now with no troubles it was connected to my PIONEER VSX 86 via SPDIF/toslink? and has excellent sound and performed all that I wanted including DTS DVD's and all my music video clips, DIVX movies etc etc
The trouble is, I have just setup my new system
MSI K9N DIAMOND also with the onboard Creative sound (CA006) and comes supplied with the Creative Audigy disc
http://global.msi.com.tw/index.php?func=proddesc&prod_no=028&maincat_no=&ca t2_no=7
When I try to install the drivers/setup disc it tells me that there is no Audigy onboard/installed? I have managed to install the drivers/disc from the previous soundblaster li've 24bit, It does work with the Audigy goldmine demo and has all channels of sound as it should but in the Surround mixer speaker settings it will only sound out 2 speakers even when it shows all 5. as it is currently configured
I have tried to download many other drivers with no luck
My main concern is the creative programs from my old system are not what I want, I paid for an AUDIGY setup not LIVE
Is it possible to get the AUDIGY onboard running as it should (showing AUDIGY in hardware manager, not LIVE 24bit)
I would like to be able to run the newer software from the AUDIGY disc but it is not compatible when the LIVE drivers are installed
I have had one set of drivers display AUDIGY in the hardware manager but when I tried to use the speaker settings etc it fails and says soundcard not found even though it clearly shows AUDIGY drivers are installed
I have been very happy with the creative sound so far on my first MSI system but I'm not very impressed with this setup and I'm still not sure who's fault it is MSI or CREATIVE?
Can someone give me some details as to what is going on here, I would like to know if it is also possible to use some kind of new software/programs for the soundblaster LIVE that has maybe more settings/functions or just a later better style as I may have to use the same on my new system
The menu's etc in my new manual (K9N DIAMOND) look almost identical to those included with the K8N SLI, The disc included with the K9N DIAMOND has an AUDIGY quick start program/demo which gives you a preview/guide on how to use the supposed AUDIGY which has all new menu's, layout and features which im unable to use?
As mentioned I have used the soundblaster 24bit LIVE for well over 2 years now connected to my PIONEER VSX86 via a digital cable so all the previous settings etc have been compared and doublechecked but im unable to find answers, If I am unable to find help or any way to install the AUDIGY as im meant to have I may resort to fitting another soundcard and I may got to another brand unfortunately
Any help appreciated

If I am right the onboard Audigy on the MSI K9N Diamond utilizes the CA006 chip instead of the EMU0k2, therefore it is not a real/genuine Audigy soundcard. In fact it's the same as your former soundblaster li've 24bit which also utilizes the same CA006 chipset. That's why you can use the driver from the SB li've 24bit for your new "Audigy" onboard sound. Also there are other soundcards that are not genuine Audigy soundcards: Audigy Se, Audigy LS and, yes, also the X-fi Xtreme Audio, all utilizing the same chip, CA006. Creative Labs use some marketing techniques, add some different (newer) software/apps for the soundcard and give the soundcard (with the same chipset) a different name. In my opinion, if you for example buy a X-fi Xtreme Audio you in fact for the most part paid for the included newer softwares (which for example add "X-fi features like Crystalizer etc.).
If you really want a better soundcard, maybe go for the X-fi XtremeMusic or XtremeGamer which utilizes the genuine EMU20K chip (with hardware acceleration). The soundquality is significantly higher than the soundcards with the CA006 chip.
As for the drivers for the soundcard:
Official Creative Labs driver for Sound Blaster? Audigy? Value/SE/LS, or Sound Blaster Li've!? 24-bit audio devices
Good luck!
Message Edited by CTman on 05-07-2008 0:28 AM

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NB GTL reference voltage - ???
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Quote from: nihilkrist on 08-October-08, 08:03:22
adjusting gtl ref. voltages isn't very difficult, but it is probably best to learn the basics first.
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Tbh with your OC you shouldn't need to touch any other voltages, or really use the gtl ref settings. What exactly is "sufficient" cooling though? Stock?
*EDIT: on a side note, just so you don't think I'm deliberately being awkward not telling you specific voltages, they wouldn't do you any good. Every cpu/mobo can handle different freq. at different voltages. Also, use cpu-z to check on your actual voltage and make sure you don't raise it beyond 1.3625 (I think that's right, it's 1.36something anyway)
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First of all, I already stated the frequencies that I wanted in the top post, and fairly clearly at that.
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Is my K9N Diamond defective?

I have had quite a few problems so this is gonna be a long one.
Hi everyone.
Recently (1½ weeks ago), i bought all the parts i needed for a new computer. Heres the list:
MSI K9N-Diamond
AMD Athlon64 X2 3800+ EE (Energy Efficient 65Watt) + Zalman CNPS9500-AM2 CPU cooler
Corsair XMS2 (2x 1024MB, DDR2-800, 5-5-5-12-T1)
Thermaltake 680Watt
- +3.3v = 28A
- +5v = 30A
- +121 = 14A
- +122 = 23A
- +123 = 15A
XFX GeForce 7900GT, 256MB PCI-E
2x WD Caviar Raid Edition 320GB SATAII, with NCQ
And a floppy drive
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Now ive been running with singledisk setup (non raid) for a week. But i have an alarming amount of BSoD errors. Its not just one BSoD, but all kinds of different errors. It is noteable that most of these errors are disk or driver related. After I got alot of different, i started writing them down. Heres a few:
IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL
0x0A (0x0000FFDF, 0x00000002, 0x00000001, 0xSomeAddress)
"Typically due to a bad driver, or faulty or incompatible hardware or software. Technically, this error condition means that a kernel-mode process or driver tried to access a memory location to which it did not have permission, or at a kernel Interrupt ReQuest Level (IRQL) that was too high. (A kernel-mode process can access only other processes that have an IRQL lower than, or equal to, its own)"
KERNEL_MODE_EXCEPTION_NOT_HANDLED
0x8E (0xC0000005, rest of parameters is junk)
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KERNEL_DATA_INPAGE_ERROR
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KERNEL_STACK_INPAGE_ERROR
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DRIVER_IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL
0xD1 (0x00000064, 0x00000002, 0x00000001, 0xjunk)
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Disable memory EPP mode and retest. ("SLI-Ready Memory" from BIOS, enabled by default)
your board support(feature only on nVidia nForce 590 SLI that's mean only for K9N Diamond) this newest feature provide enhance performance via Enhanced Performance Profiles stored in SPD Memory. if your system memory do not support this feature and option is "Auto" or "Enabled" issues are expected. Sli Ready Memory:
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http://www.behardware.com/news/8167/nvidia-annonce-sli-memory-ou-epp.html
http://www.corsairmemory.com/corsair/pr/PR_Enhanced_Performance_Profiles_EPP.pdf
http://www.nvidia.com/object/IO_31187.html
http://www.legitreviews.com/article/345/3/

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I've just bouaght a new system and spent today putting it together. After everything seemed to be in place i plugged it all in and turned it on only to find it refuses to do anything boot-like. Black screen with spinning fans but no beeps etc...
Specs -
MSI K9N Diamond M-Board
AMD Athlon 64X2 5200+ CPU
2x 1GB Corsair DDR2 PC2-6400 CAS4 Dominator RAM Modules
MSI NX8800GTS-T2D640E GPU
(New/Blank) Seagate 250GB IDE HDD
IDE DVD-RW Drive
PCI Firewire Card
PCI Wireless Card
I've checked around on other forums for similar issues with/without this board and tried a few obvious checks such as removing unnecessary cards, devices, RAM, HDD ad nothing produces any results or hints. The speaker is definately connected to the board and the power lights are lighting up.
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No, Those values where when I was on a EVGA 790i Ultra... And the 1.3625V was because the system was lowering the Voltage on the cores... What i mean is that when you were setting for example 1.3V, the system was set at a lower voltage and when the system was not idle anymore, the cores couldn't reach the voltage they needed (the voltage set and the maximum voltage possible where not the same).
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K9N-Diamond (MSI-7226) RAID5 disks disconnect sporadic

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I´d a Problem that the RAID 5 won´t work stable ...
Sporadic one of the 3 disks disconnect, when I copy large files ~4-8GB on the RAID, or when I try to generate one there.
It sounds like the former Problems with the Promise SX-6000 RAID Controller, but this failure will fixed after an BIOS update.
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PMU ROM Version : 5A01
MediaShield (by press F10) : Jun 01 2006
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MSI-Support (germany):
They give me a ticket number and tell my to her from them near-term ...
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- Is the raid controler firmware included in the mainboard Bios?
- Why have my board the Bios version 1.3, but in the download section is only v1.2 listet?
With easily enervated greetings
Gerald

@ bosamar
Sorry for the late replay ... to less time.
Today I´ve downgrade the BIOS to the v1.2
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After I´d disconnect the modules from bank 2 and 4 the system boot.
I do my settings in the BIOS and add the modules again ... and it works again.
(I´d testet the RAM modules with an tool ... they are error free).
... After that changing I´ve load the Bios default settings
May be there is a timing problem with the Chipset or RAM stettings ??
--->Advanced Chipset Features
--> Hyper Transport C51 Configuration
LDT(AM2) to C51(NB) FreqAuto ... enable
LDT(AM2) to C51(NB) Link .......... (16 / 16)
C51(NB) to MCP55(SB) Freq ........ 400 MHz
C51(NB) to MCP55(SB) Link ........ (16 / 16)
-->Hypter Transport MCP55 Configuration
MCP55(SB) to C51(NB) Freq ......... 400 MHz
--->Cell menu
Current DRAM Clock .......... 800MHz
Current CPU Clock ............ 2612MHz
Current FSB Multiplier ........ 13x
CPU Frequency ................. 200MHz
CPU dynamic overclock ...... disabled
Adjust extra CPU Voltage ... default
cool n quiet ..................... enable
+ CPU Configuration
adjust CPU Ratio ... auto
adjust CPU VID ..... auto
Adjust DDR2 Memory Frequency ... auto
Adjust DDR2 Voltage (V) ............ 1.90
+ Memory Configuration
MCT Timing Mode ............ auto
Bank Interleaving ............ auto
CMD-ADDR Timing Mode ... 2T
Software Memory Hole ..... enable
C51 PCI-Express Frequency ....... 100.0000
MCP55 PCI-Express Frequency ... 100
+ Advance Voltage Control
CPU to NB HT Voltage ...... 1.20
SB to PCIE VGA Voltage ... 1.50
NB to SB HT Voltage ........ 1.30
NB to PCIE VGA Voltage ... 1.23
Auto Disable PCI Clock ... disable
+ Spectrum Configuration
CPU Spread Spectrum ............. Center Spread
C51 PCIE Spread Spectrum ...... enable
CPU/LDT Spead Spectrum ........ center spread
MCP55 PCIE Spread Spectrum ... enable
SATA Spread Spectrum ........... enable
+ Nvidia LinkBoost Technology
NB<->SB LinkBoost Support ... auto
PCIE LinkBoost Support ......... auto
SLI-Ready Memory ............... auto
NVIDIA GPU Ex .................... enable
Greetings Gerry

MSI K8N Diamond Plus - Guide to my first week

OK, not a newb here, but been around the block quite a bit. MSI K8N Diamond Plus is my 5th A64 mobo (ECS K8M800, my daily undestroyed computer, K8T800, my 12 year olds gamer, Asus A8V Deluxe, first 939 system, Abit AN8 SLI, first SLI gamer, and now the MSI Diamond Plus). Had the KDP (K8N Diamond Plus) for more than a week now, and here's what I've learned.
This is state of the art again, and we have no one to blame but ourselves for the pain this causes us when we upgrade like lunatics
And as usual, the drivers and BIOS are al Dente (i.e. not cooked enought yet, a little raw)
MSI is also oddly silent on this system, which is wierd, as they are a large company, and specifically cater to enthusiasts. But their BIOS guys are MIA. Hopefully this will not be forever. Asus, ABIT, DFI, Epox are always fast with fixes
The board is a nice design, with everything basically accessible, as much as any other board. Lots of purposeful components, not too many dumb frills. No tooty fruity colors, but rather practical parts.
The new 2 piece NForce chipset is fine, and the MSI guys gave us a decent, but funky cooler. It gets a little warm to the touch when you pound on it with Prime95, or Quake4, but other than that it is fine
The manual has a zillion typos, and fortunately for us in this forum, we have shared what we've learned. The translation from Chinese to English leaves quite a bit to be desired, and hopefully, MSI will learn from Asus and Abit and get a better translation service. In 2006 this is just plain stupid, especially with a $225 board
As usual, the mobo supplied tweaker utilities are just aweful. They look like a hallucination from a Hunter S Thompson book, and they work about as well. Core center is a sad state of affairs, and the rest of them just burrow their way into your otherwise stable system and cause it to have poor behavior. And therefore as usual, the BIOS is the best way, if slowest, to tweak this bundle of parts
Which brings us to the BIOS. IMHO, the worst one I've seen on a high end board. ZERO explanation for half the settings (this is not strange in and of itself, BIOS is still a black art, but in a tweakers board, we should have some basic explanation )
There seem to be adequate settings in the BIOS for all sorts of doodads and gizmos, but who the heck knows what half of them are. Roger points out rightfully, that we now need to "Tune" across all these different intermediary bus structures and test. But with the lack of info from either NVidia, MSI or anyone else for that matter, its kinda hard to know where to start.
The board is clearly sensitive, which is a result of it being high strung. This is no different than any "first out" product I've ever bought. Most take 2 or 3 turns of the crank to get totally stable and forgiving. This one hated my OCZ platinum EL 2Gb kit memory, and it brought out the worst in one of the SLI based EVGA 7800 GT COs. These components worked in the Abit AN8 SLI (although not always great), but the MSI has ZERO tolerance for even the slightest pertubation from the memory. It was BSOD city until I removed both of these components by process of elimination that took probably 100 hours
Once I removed the bad components, and replaced the memory with Geil Ultra X 2x512 2-2-2-5, it worked great, ran Prime95 for 10 hours with no errors, and seems reasonably stable. I've RMA-d the bad 7800GT CO back to EVGA, and will report back on how SLI behaves when I get the new one (cross shipped of course, I haveno patience )
I also now need to replace the 2Gb RAM kit with something that the board will tolerate. I may RMA the 2Gb kit back to OCZ and try another one, but I dunno. I love OCZ but I have a bad feeling about this, even though they have great!!! support. I may try OCZ PC4000 or the RAM that Roger successfully used.
I did upgrade to the 1.16 BIOS, and found that some new things were added, as well as voltage control in Cell was a little better, but registration of changes in voltage is still a disaster. I adjusted a bunch of times, it didn't register, and I ended up smoking a new A64 3700+ Diego with 1.95 volts, even though the BIOS claimed it was 1.53. I had to rebot to see what was going on. The Thermalright XP-90 kept the proc from melting down through the earth
Finally, I hope this board attracts more people, and therefore more tweakers that can figure out all these gadgets and settings. Everyone flocked to the Asus X16 SLI product, which is too bad, as this one needs lots o' folks to hack it up for us to figure out what is going on.
The on board Creative audio sounds lousy to my ears, and I will replace it with an Audigy 2ZS gamer that I had in the Abit. It just sounds better, but hopefully the drivers will not trash my newly stable system. Creative scares me, they scare me alot.
I've been able to get the CPU up to 2.4Ghz, with a .5 volt bump to the CPU and 2.9 volts into the Geil memory. So far, so stable, no smoke coming out yet
I hope this info is somewhat valuable to someone on this board. I will post details of all changes that I make, as others are doing, so we can at least take care of ourselves with this thing.

Quote from: nanohead on 15-February-06, 01:17:10
Which brings us to the BIOS. IMHO, the worst one I've seen on a high end board. ZERO explanation for half the settings (this is not strange in and of itself, BIOS is still a black art, but in a tweakers board, we should have some basic explanation )
There seem to be adequate settings in the BIOS for all sorts of doodads and gizmos, but who the heck knows what half of them are. Roger points out rightfully, that we now need to "Tune" across all these different intermediary bus structures and test. But with the lack of info from either NVidia, MSI or anyone else for that matter, its kinda hard to know where to start.
first of all, i do think that all the settings in the BIOS have an explanation in the manual, even if it's a basic one. if that explanation doesn't tell you everything in detail, is because if you do need a detailed explanation of the settings, you probably shouldn't be messing around with those settings.
Quote from: nanohead on 15-February-06, 01:17:10
I did upgrade to the 1.16 BIOS, and found that some new things were added, as well as voltage control in Cell was a little better, but registration of changes in voltage is still a disaster. I adjusted a bunch of times, it didn't register, and I ended up smoking a new A64 3700+ Diego with 1.95 volts, even though the BIOS claimed it was 1.53. I had to rebot to see what was going on. The Thermalright XP-90 kept the proc from melting down through the earth.
wanna tell me how did you get 1.95V on that mobo?
Quote from: nanohead on 15-February-06, 01:17:10
I've been able to get the CPU up to 2.4Ghz, with a .5 volt bump to the CPU and 2.9 volts into the Geil memory. So far, so stable, no smoke coming out yet
a 0.5V bump? again, you must be joking. maybe 0.05V.

K9N Diamond - multiple problems

First, here is my setup:
K9N Diamond
AMI bios v1.2
AMD 64x2 5200+
2 gig Corsair ValueSelect (no timing info available)
XFX Fatality 7600GT 256mb video
Okia Okia-450ATX ps +3.3v@28A +5v@50A +12v@18A (+3.3/+5v 230W)
Primary HD: Maxtor 80 gig IDE. Secondary: Maxtor 200 gig SATA
Pioneer 16x DVD burner
WinXP Home SP2 + updates
All mobo drivers are from the cd. The video card drive is the latest forceware driver.
Ok. I am having multiple problems. First, I have tried 3 pci dialup modems (2 Broadxent 56.6 and 1 generic SmartLink 56.6) and only the SmartLink shows up. The 2 Broadxent (Creative Modem Blaster) modems don't even appear to the system , yet they both work in other computers. The SmartLink modem appears and will connect sometimes, and then not reliably. I have tried all 3 in both pci slot. None work in the orange slot. Any ideas?
Second, I am getting random reboots. This happens less often if I disable the onboard audio, but it still happens. If I have the audio enabled and use a USB modem I have, then it will enevitably auto-reboot I have even gone so far as to remove the side of my case and point a small high velocity fan into the case to lower the temp of the internal components in case the CPU temp was an issue. The CPU temp is around 34 C this way. Still random reboots. I have had previous bad expreience with SB audigy SE addon cards, but this still happens with the audio disabled.
And last, but not least, I am experiencing protracted bootup times. I was previously running a ABIT AV8/ AMD 64 3000+ combo with a ATI X700 and 2 gig of Kingston valueram with the same ps, hd's and dvd drive and my bootup times have almost doubled with my new mobo cpu combo.
I am getting a new Thermaltake 600w ps and 2 Antec tornado case fans tomorrow, but I don't see how that can really help with these problems as I am not really drawing that much power yet and the CPU is running fairly cool with the big fan at the moment.
Any help would be greatly appreciated. It looks as I might possibly have a bad board on my hands. :(
Oh yeah, I also cannot get Dual Core Center to run at all. I DO have .NET framework 2.0 on my system and have had for a long time. Every time I try and start the program I get an error popup saying "The application failed to initialize properly (0x0000005). Click OK to terminate the application." . I downloaded the latest version from MSI. Version 2.0.2 I think.

Quote from: Exo on 25-January-07, 21:42:07
Try that new PSU first, 18A on the 12V rail is barely enough and that might be a peak rating...
Defiantly agree there, 18A on 12V rail is not enough and most likely the cause of the reboots. You would want at least 24A on the 12V. Also if you go to buy a new one, avoid those multi-rail PSU's as they are not as good as the single rails as the current on each rail is not overly high.

MSI K9N2 Diamond CPU FAN SPEED

It is not much of a problem, but, recently I changed my msi k9n platinum with k9n2 diamond and, of course, I transfered the old hardware to the new mainboard.
My CPU is x2 64 athlon 6000+ and my fan is Cooler Master Susurro (http://www.overclockersonline.net/?page=articles&num=354). On my platinum board my fan
acted quietly, around 1000-1100 rpms and the cpu temp. around 42-44 degrees celsius. As I changed the mainboard the cpu temp. fell on 34-36 BUT the cpu fan
is now cooling faster, around 1400-1600 rpms. I don't mind my cpu 8 degrees hotter and a better sleep at night :D. I've tried latest drivers, cool&quiet drivers, bios
cool&quiet, smart fan target.. nothing helps. It is the same. I run windows XP SP2. Updated to the last released bios. Tied speedfan, but it doesn't support that
mainboard. And my fan is now too loud, can someone help me

When changing motherboard you need to do at least a repair installation of Windows. Can't really be avoided.
That would mean you reinstall motherboard drivers. Maybe things work better this time.
You set Cooln'quiet to minimal savings, if I'm not mistaken.
Your Susurro got a few years. Are you sure it is up to the job? The test you link to was with a Socket 939 processor, at about half to 2/3 the power and heat output to the one you got.
Oh, and please mention your PSU, too.

MSI K8N Diamond hangs on startup

Without having changed anything (neither hardware nor software), the computer now hangs on every bootup.
It only get to the MSI Diamond logo screen (with Graphic memory passed and memory check stated in the background)
I cant even press DEL to enter BIOS menu or F11 to enter startup menu.
The computer has worked like a charm for 6 months since I installed it, so this current problem is really strange.
Windows XP Pro SP2
MSI K8N Diamond (Award Bios)
XFX GeForce 6800 Ultra
2048MB PC3500 RAM
250GB SATA Hitachi Deskstar T7K250 7200RPM (Master boot)
250GB ATA Seagate Barracuda 7200RPM
Creative Soundblaster XFI Fatal1ty FPS
Logitech MX510
Logitech UltraX Flat Keyboard

My PSU is a Hiper Type-R 480W (sufficient for my usage at least)
The problem seems to be in the USB handling, since it randomly decides to fullfill the startup after I've disconnected/reconnected some of the USB devices;
My USB devices are;
Wacom Intuos2 (Tablet)
M-Audio Oxygen-8 (Midi keyboard)
These USB ports and devices never caused any problems before though. And since the startup shouldn't care about USB, it's damn strange that it just hangs without any error what so ever.
DXDiag;
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System Information
Time of this report: 3/6/2006, 14:57:44
Machine name: SYNTHETI-7C3D19
Operating System: Windows XP Professional (5.1, Build 2600) Service Pack 2 (2600.xpsp_sp2_gdr.050301-1519)
Language: Swedish (Regional Setting: Swedish)
System Manufacturer: MICRO-STAR INTERNATIONAL CO., LTD
System Model: MS-7100
BIOS: Phoenix - AwardBIOS v6.00PG
Processor: AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3500+, MMX, 3DNow, ~2.2GHz
Memory: 2048MB RAM
Page File: 295MB used, 2621MB available
Windows Dir: C:\WINDOWS
DirectX Version: DirectX 9.0c (4.09.0000.0904)
DX Setup Parameters: Not found
DxDiag Version: 5.03.2600.2180 32bit Unicode
DxDiag Notes
DirectX Files Tab: No problems found.
Display Tab 1: No problems found.
Sound Tab 1: No problems found.
Music Tab: No problems found.
Input Tab: No problems found.
Network Tab: No problems found.
Disk & DVD/CD-ROM Drives
Drive: C:
Free Space: 130.5 GB
Total Space: 238.5 GB
File System: NTFS
Model: HDS722525VLSA80
Drive: G:
Free Space: 25.3 GB
Total Space: 238.5 GB
File System: NTFS
Model: ST3250823A
Drive: D:
Model: SONY DVD-ROM DDU1613
Driver: c:\windows\system32\drivers\cdrom.sys, 5.01.2600.2180 (Swedish), 8/3/2004 20:59:54, 49536 bytes
Drive: F:
Model: _NEC DVD_RW ND-3520A
Driver: c:\windows\system32\drivers\cdrom.sys, 5.01.2600.2180 (Swedish), 8/3/2004 20:59:54, 49536 bytes
Drive: H:
Model: Generic DVD-ROM SCSI CdRom Device
Driver: c:\windows\system32\drivers\cdrom.sys, 5.01.2600.2180 (Swedish), 8/3/2004 20:59:54, 49536 bytes

MOVED: K9N Diamond Overclocking

This topic has been moved to Overclockers & Modding Corner.
https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=118277.0

Quote from: DaveR on 11-March-07, 03:56:06
Clear cmos.
Enter bios and load optimised defaults.
Exit.
Re-enter bios and change user settings to your liking; ensure usb stuff is enabled.
Save and exit.
Shutdown and change keyboards.
Report back.
I tried what you mentioned above several times and sometimes boot up would work without the PS2 keyboard, sometimes it would not. Clearing the CMOS never worked on this board. I pressed the clear CMOS button (with power cable disconnected) and it did nothing. I also upgraded to the 1.2 bios and that seemed to reduce the frequency of the "overclocking has failed" bootup failures, but it was still present. Also, with the 1.2 bios, I seemed to have more bootup hangs (raid, etc.) once I did get through the initial posting process.
Power Supply Specs:
Antec Truepower 2.0 (480 Watt) - Haven't had an issue with thie PSU in my previous SLI setup.
+5: 38A
+12(1): 18A
+12(2): 18A
+3.3A: 30A
-12: 1.0A
+5: 2.0A
But at this point, it is a lost cause because the board is now toast (where is the PB and J!!!!). I left the PS2 keyboard connected, installed windows, installed some testing software, and did some performance checking, heard a "sizzling" sound from around the capacitors between the cpu socket and the rear board connetors, a quick burnt electrical smell, and the system powered off. Now the board won't power on. I checked the CPU, memory and cards and thankfully they are ok. So it appears the board is toast. I have already requested an RMA.
The first board I got was DOA, and now this board had issues from the first time I powered it on. It just seems like the K9N Diamond boards have some serious quality issues. I read the NewEgg reviews for this board and there are quite a few reviewers having DOA/posting type issues.
-S

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honestly, if it's not for SLI, I think I'll wait for ATI, ops, AMD RD600 chipset mobo instead.
I complete agree with that. Just getting bored with the Opteron system. I have an insider I am getting a e6600 from for 1/2 price this week, so I was looking at boards. Think I want to try the 680i over the 975, and while the RD600 looks like it will be a winner it's still a ways out.
MSI had stated end of December for the P6N and that time is upon us.
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