MSI KT2 Combo-L Memory Timing Problem

Currently I have two sticks of Kingston 256MB PC3200 CAS3-3-3-8 ram on this motherboard. (Worked in Dual Channel in my P4P800 at 2.5-2-3-5@PC3200)
Running AMD XP2000+, 266FSB
They're rated to perform fine with 2-2-2-6 timing in PC2100 mode...(checked both datasheets and utilities)
I have already set all these in the BIOS with Command Rate = 1T, FastCommand = Ultra, Bank-Interleave = 4 way
Funny thing is, in CPU-Z or other utilities. I'm getting 2-3-3-6...or RAS to CAS delay = 3, RAS Precharge = 3 instead of both being 2.
Is there any way to fix this problem as I want to set the timing as low as possible...
Thanks.

Quote from: me_AMD on 29-January-06, 19:37:06
...CPU-Z is probably reading SPD rather than your BIOS setting...
SPD has 2-2-2-6 at 266MHz...
So i doubt it's just CPU-Z. Even Everest and Sandra report the same thing.
The funny thing is that it wouldn't lower it anymore even tho I chose all the lowest values...On my other AMD machine, I could lower it all to 2-2-2-6. This is the reason I'm asking.

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