MSI KT3 Ultra-ARU + All In Wonder Problem

I've got a odd problem that is related to putting my machine into Standby. If I do so the night before, then wake the system up in the morning I see issues that point to memory corruption or driver failure or a conflict with the VIA chipset. Outlook Express will lock up on launch, the ATI digital VCR app will either not launch or fail to shutdown if it does. I clean installed Windows XP, then updated it with XP SP1. Of note is that the video card works ok with the OS supplied driver but if you install the ATI drivers (which are needed to make the TV and Digital VCR work) this stuff happens. I have reinstalled several times so I am pretty sure this isn't just a messy config issue. I've had bad experiences similar to this with VIA chipset mobos in the past so this doesn't surprise me.
Anyone ever see this? Know of a fix?
-- Richard
Mobo: KT3 Ultra-ARU MS-6380E
CPU: Athlon XP 1800+
Video: All In Wonder Radeon
RAM: 512MB Samsung PC2100
HD: Seagate 80GB Barracuda IV
OS: Microsoft Windows XP Professional
Version: 5.1.2600 Service Pack 1 Build 2600
BIOS Version/Date: American Megatrends Inc. 07.00T, 4/2/2001
SMBIOS Version: 2.3

I don't know if this will help or not but....
I had issues with the latest drivers from ATI. I downloaded the tv capture drivers, display drivers, etc. in the 7.7 bundle. I went back to the 7.6 bundle and have had zero problems since.

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MSI KT3 ultra aru Western Digital 200GB raid problem

Hi!
This is what I've got.
KT3 Ultra-ARU (MS-6380E)
AMD 2000+
256 MB 333mhz RAM (AMD Compatible)
Seagate ST330630A 30GB (an old drive)
Maxtor 6L080J4 80GB
Maxtor DiamondMax Plus9 6Y080L0 80Gb 7200rpm 2Mb UDMA133 Fluid IDE
Western Digital Caviar WD1800JB 180Gb 7200rpm Special Edition UDMA100 IDE
Western Digital Caviar WD2000JB 200Gb 7200rpm Special Edition UDMA100 IDE
Promise 100 IDE-controller
Creative Geforce MX 440
Lite-on LTR-40125W
NEC ND-1300 DVD
And the configuration:
IDE1: Seagate (Master)
IDE2: WD1800BG (Cabel Select)
IDE3(Raid1): Maxtor 6LO80J4 (Master) and Maxtor 6Y080L0 (Slave) raided as an single drive
IDE4(Raid2): WD2000JB (Cable Select)
IDE5(IDE-controller1):
IDE6(IDE-controller2): NEC ND-1300 (Master) and Lite-on LTR-40125W (Slave)
And the Software:
I've updated all the software drivers so I've got the newest and I'm currently runnign Win2k SP3 with almost every patch installed on it.
And finally the problem:
When I've hook my WD2000JB to the on-board raid everything seems to be working normaly. The bios finds the drive and makes a new array. Win2k boots up and finds the drive and I can create an partition. But when I've try to format it it the computer starts to freeze for a while and then acts like normal again. The HDD-led blinks as it should during the "normal" time, but when the comp. freezes it stops blinking. The formatation stops at 7% and the HDD-led stops lighting. I don't get an error eventhough it was several hours since it stoped. And the formatation takes like 30min for 1%.
When I connect the WD2000JB to the IDE3 I can format it and it acts just like normal. I even did a full system test with the System tool found on Western Digitals support site and it didn't find any errors. But when move it to the raid-IDE the errors return. I've get Error reading / writing to disk and when I've did a chkdsk I've got the "Coudn't use Device) so I did a scandisk and it found very very many errors so it completly ereased everything that was on it.
And when I've run Western Digitals program again i've get an error (Disk error read/writing) error code: 0113.
Can it be that the Western Disk doesn't work well with Raid? I've haven't heard anything about that, so...
Best regars,
Mathias

You can have a look at my hardware below...
Chassis: Antec 1080B (300w PSU / 180w COMBINED)
Mainboard: MSI KT3 Ultra ARU
CPU: AMD Athlon XP 1800+
Display: ABIT Siluro GF4 Ti4200 AGP 4X
DVD/CD-RW Combo: HL-DT-ST RW/DVD GCC-4120B
Floppy: Panasonic 1.44MB
HD: Quantum Fireball Plus/AS 30.0GB UDMA 100
Keyboard: Microsoft Internet Keyboard Pro
Monitor: KDS Visual Sensations VS-190
Mouse: Microsoft USB Wheel Mouse Optical
NICs: 3Com 3C900B / DLink DFE-530TX
RAM: Micron DDR 266MHz (2x256MB DIMMs)
Sound: Avance AC'97 Audio
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Check your PSU and your bus speed settings...

MSI KT3 Ultra-ARU power supply problem

Hello !
I am a lucky owner of MSI KT3 Ultra-ARU motherboard but have one problem. My power supply Fortron (FSP Group) 300-GT 300W seems to have some kind of incompatibility with this motherboard. In my case, the computer can't be shutted down by software. With BIOS version 2.5 it was impossible to shut it down with button too. With 2.6 it is possible to turn the computer off by button but software shutdown still don't work. PSU is working on ALL other boards I have tested so far normally. Somewhere in discussions (not in this forums) I discovered that also some kind of weird sounds occurs with Fortron supply on this board and that it is incompatible. Have anyone some clues to solve this PSU problem ? I am not able momentally to buy some other kind of PSU because Fortron is the only brand from higher category to obtain, so I would be like to solve this.....
Thanks for any info !

Voltage readings from sensors (current data):
w83697hf-isa-0290
Adapter: ISA adapter
Algorithm: ISA algorithm
VCore: +1.76 V (min = +0.00 V, max = +0.00 V)
+3.3V: +3.34 V (min = +2.97 V, max = +3.63 V)
+5V: +4.89 V (min = +4.50 V, max = +5.48 V)
+12V: +11.89 V (min = +10.79 V, max = +13.11 V)
-12V: -12.44 V (min = -13.21 V, max = -10.90 V)
-5V: -5.01 V (min = -5.51 V, max = -4.51 V)
V5SB: +5.51 V (min = +4.50 V, max = +5.48 V)
VBat: +3.42 V (min = +2.70 V, max = +3.29 V)
fan1: 4560 RPM (min = 1500 RPM, div = 4)
fan2: 2033 RPM (min = 1500 RPM, div = 4)
temp1: +40°C (limit = +60°C) sensor = thermistor
temp2: +44.5°C (limit = +60°C, hysteresis = +50°C) sensor = thermistor
PSU is powering Athlon XP 1700+ processor, the other big power consumer is GeForce4 Ti 4200 GPU. I am not able read currents for specific voltage outputs, so I am not able to measure whole power consumption. Computer is working normally, it is NOT overclocked (but it is stable overclocked too) and the only problem is PSU shutdown by software (win & linux, both of them has this problem). From BIOS v2.6 it is possible to shutdown the computer by power button. If it is tried by software, computer resets itself and three beeps occurs.

MSI KT3 Ultra ARU Mem timing problems?

As experienced by myself as well as Maximum PC Magazine during testing. Using high quality memory such as Samsung PC2700 DDR on the MSI KT3 Ultra ARU, if you set the cas latency timings to the most agressive settings, next time you try to boot into Windows, your OS crashes and the registry gets corrupted. Also the board actually interprets CAS 2.5 memory as CAS 2. I am sure a BIOS update will fix this problem, however who else has had this problems?

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Hi MSI MAN
I to have top quality ram, but my board reads the CAS settings correctly.
not for sure what the difference is between xtreme memory modules and,i guess,plain memory modules.installing samsung pc3200 256 ddr into msi kt3 ultra2,was wondering if you have had any compatability problems with your type of memory.have posted to three different forums with no results.

Msi kt3 ultra aru ... Cnet pro200 Ethernet problem..

Hi guys
i have this wierd problem i cant figuer out
i just bought a new mobo an msi kt3 ultra aru and amd palamino xp 1800 512 mb kingston pc2700 ram
asus geforce (2) v7100 pro mx-400
the ohter stuff i have is imb deskstar 40gb maxtor diamond 7gb asus dvd and plextor 12/10/32 cd writer
the only pci card i have installed is Cnet pro 200 100/10Mbps Ethernet adapter..
i made a clean install whit winxp pro and i have installed the 5.40 bios and the new 4 in 1 from via and newest nvidia graphics driver
and im on broadband using a cable modem (dialup)
the problem is when i start the computer and windows is loadet i takes up to 30 - 45 sec before i can connect to the internet and proggys like virus protectors and firewalls also after 30 - 45 sec
but if i take the r45 cable out of the modem and start the computer it loads everything in a sec
then i plug the cable in a agin and i have acces to the internet
i have followed mr stevo and racerx27 bios settings
is there any one out there
who have a solution to my problem?
if so then i can be reached at [email protected]

Think your network (TCP/IP) settings are wrong in some way..

MSI KT3 Ultra ARU 5.7 BIOS and SoudBlaster Cards - Audigy

I have flashed my BIOS to 5.7 Version and my sound card start to make a lot of noise (crackling) when play AC3 or DVD. If you dont want to use the new AMD CPU 333 FSB you dont need to flash the BIOS - I have Flashed to 5.6 again but, if you want to use a 333 FSB CPU you can flash the BIOS to version 5.7 and if have sound problems use the PCI latency patch for VIA chipsets.
VIA chipset MotherBoard owners who have through all of the above and still have sound problems with their Soundblaster cards, might want to look into the PCI latency patch for VIA chipsets - get it here:
http://www.georgebreese.com/net/software/
(scroll down the page there just a little to get to it).
There's also a similar page about resolving sound problems on Via chipset based computers here:
http://www.deinmeister.de/mvp3_zlt_e.htm
I hope this post help somebody
Mário Silva from Beja - Portugal
My System:
MSI KT3 Ultra ARU
Athlon 2400+
512 Kingston PC2700 DDR SDRAM
MSI Geforce4 Ti 4200
SoundBlaster Audigy
Windows xp Pro SP1
400W PSU
Creative Drx3
Pinnacle PCTV pro
HDD Maxtor 80 GB UDMA 133
DVD Pioneer slot in
RW Samsung 48x16x48
Creative WebCam Go
UPS 500 VA
Monitor Sony 19" E400E

Since my chip is an unlocked, I cannot easily run it at the default, but I can underclock it. At 100x6.0=600mhz, USB does not work, as well as 100x12.5. Same with 133x6.0 and 133x12.5. It appears to make no difference underclocking or overclocking.
I downloaded the right BIOS listed on MSI's KT3 Ultra-ARU page. I don't think the BIOSes are different anyway, since the same files, changelog, and etc are also listed for the Ultra-2 board.
A thing to note, that this is the onboard VIA-controller USB ports doing this. My Ultra-ARU's NEC-controller USB 2.0 ports work fine in both Win2k and Linux if I hook my mouse and keyboard up in those. This is not an ideal solution for me though.

MSI KT3 Ultra ARU & GeForce 3 TI200

A little prob:
When I run my GF3 in AGP mode, all my games hang after playing 1 min. Then when I change the "Via Tech CPU to AGP-controller" to "PCI standard PCI to PCI brigde" thereby running my GF3 in PCI-mode everything runs fine. Then I went into "dxdiag" and saw that "Acceleration of AGP-struktur" was not availble. So I was thinking, am I looseing enything by running the GF3 in PCI-mode and is it the MSI or the GF3 that is causeing this problem.
I have tried all the VIA 4in1 drivers and they did not help.
My specs:
MSI KT3 Ultra ARU
Athlon XP 1900+
Palite Daytona Geforce 3 TI200
Windows XP pro

i have the kt3 ultra with a geforce 3 ti200 and it runs flawless.. i use the det 30.30 drivers. one thing i noticed with geforce 3 cards is if i have my agp apperature set to anything but 128 games will freeze and get all kinds off lock ups. if i were you i would look around this forum for the bios setup guide for the kt3 ultra! and set your bios according to that guide
if you cant find it here goto http://www.amdmb.com and go to the msi forum there and the set up guide is there
hopefully that helps!!!!

MSI KT3 Ultra ARU Startup Trouble

I am running an MSI KT3 Ultra ARU Mainboard with an amd athlon xp 1500+ processor, a GeForce4 Ti4200 made by Gainward (64mb), two AOC 120MM case fans, one 80mm case fan, a thermaltake volcano 7 speed variable Heatsink, two crucial 512MB pc2100 DDR Ram Chips a sony 16x12x40x cdrw and an LG 16x dvd rom, as well as a 20gig tape drive by HP and floppy drive. The hard drive is a maxtor diamondmax 60GB. all this powerd by an Antec 350W PSU.
Specs over with, heres the problem
I can only boot from floppy disk. Booting from the hard disk gives me an "Error Loading Operating System" error, I have tried two other drives and both of these drives have OS's on them, winnt4 and winxp respectively. The Maxtor drive is clean but not new, I am formatting it as we speak to see if that works. I have tried to boot from a bootable win2k cd on two different CDRW drives as well as an old CD Rom drive, and a DVD rom drive. I always get this error "Searching for Boot Record from CD.....None Found" proceeded by the "Error Loading Operating System" error. I am running everything off the three IDE plugs, with round IDE cable(I have tried flat ones, no luck with those either) I am not attempting to run this in a RAID array at all.
Anyone got any ideas as to why this problem would be occuring????

hi nailz,
Hope this may solve your problem. In the BIOS, Advanced BIOS Features, set "Boot Sequency" 1st, 2nd, 3rd boot devices to the SAME one, ie Floppy for all, or 1st Master HDD for all. Then reboot. Disable "Try boot device' first. Repeat this until you get the board to boot the device.
If can't,
Clear the CMOS and retry.
If can't,
(In the BIOS) select all IDE devices and set to NONE. Set "Clear NVRAM" in PCI Configuration. Save and exit the BIOS, then re-entering BIOS in the next boot, enable all IDE devices. Save and exit, re-enter BIOS once more, check the "Boot Sequence".
Yup... try changing around with IDE settings in the BIOS. Good luck.

MSI KT3 Ultra-ARU video lock-ups

Hello,
I have a 3 month old MSI KT3 Ultra-ARU. I am running Windows XP Professional and I am having a periodic lock-up where the screen will show blinking colored blocks and the system will freeze. Sometimes just hitting reset will cure the problem. Other times, hitting reset will create two vertical stripes of colored blocks scrolling down the screen. I have used the board on two entirely separate systems (One with AMD Athlon 2000+, Gainward GeForce 4200, 512 MB Samsung 2700 DDR, Western Digital Expert HD (tried both IDE #1 and RAID controller) (Other System, Athlon 1800+, a different Gainward Geforce 4200, 256 Crucial 2700 DDR, an older Maxtor hard drive). In either system, every once in a while, the system will freeze as described above (it has happened in Netscape 7.0, Microsoft Word 2000, America's Army game).
I have played around with the bios settings, reformatted hard drives, tried various revisions of the nvidia display drivers, swapped out video cards, etc. Any ideas? Do I have a bad board? Do I need to flash the BIOS? If the board is bad, what do I need to do to return it?
Thanks,
Matt Gumaer

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KT3 Ultra-ARU SB Live! problem when using onboard Promise MBFasttrak 1

Hello !
I have one little problem with my motherboard. I know it's a little bit older compared to today's MSI production.. I have a MSI KT3 Ultra-ARU motherboard. I used only VT8233A southbridge's IDE until now, and everything worked perfectly. But now, I bought two Maxtor 80GB disks and placed them to a onboard Promise MBFasttrak 133 Lite (PDC20276) RAID in stripping mode. Everything works, except Soundblaster Live!. The soundcard itself works normally, but when I start to copy some files (and have some MP3's or video's running) the audio gets distorted in rythm with data transfer. I checked IRQs or address spaces, but IDE is on another IRQ than any other device, the same is address space. Had anyone the same experience with this "problem" ? Please let me know...
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AMD Athlon XP 1700+
256MB RAM DDR 333
2x Maxtor DiamondMax 9 80.0GB
nVIDIA GeForce4 Ti 4200
ATi TVWonder
RTL8029 ethernet card
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Teac CD-E540 cd-rom
Sony DRU-190A cd-rw

Hi,
I think you should install at least the VIA RPP patch (http://www.viaarena.com), maybe also the patch from http://www.georgebreese.com.
Hans

Anyone using BlueTooth with MSI KT3 Ultra-Aru?

Has anyone setup BlueTooth PC to PC network with the MSI KT3 Ultra-Aru?
Where can one get the transmitter? (assuming it works)

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Originally posted by cje1985
i have a kt3 ultra aru it says it has blue tooth and on the usb 2.0 dongle it says do not remove if you use bluetooth but when i follow the manual to plug it in windows or the software finds the bluetooth connection
Hi,
I have a KT3 Ultra ARU too, and I understand that if you use the onboard Bluetooth connection you must not use the USB connection under the blue sticker at the same time.
I think it's because the onboard Bluetooth connection and the USB connection under the sticker use the same adress (IRQ). So as long as you have no Bluetooth, like me, you can use the 4 USB connections. If you use Bluetooth connection on board, do not use the USB connection under the sticker (the left one seen from backside of your PC).
If you use an external Bluetooth it's not a problem with your 4 USB connections.
ralcan

PSU Query for MSI KT3 Ultra-ARU running 3000xp

Hi There,
Before buying a new Motherboard I was just wondering if the problems I'm getting are related to the PSU which is about 5 years old. I've just upgraded my processor to a Athlon 3000 XP 333 FSB which goes into the MSI KT3 Ultra-ARU (MS-6380E v1.X) motherbaord, which I've upgraded the Bios to version 5.7, I've also upgraded my graphics card to the Leadtek Geforce FX5900XT which also plugs into the PSU. When setting my fsb to 166 my PC either won't boot or when I try to run say 3DMark it just freezes, but when I set my FSB to 133 it works fine. I was wondering if it is trying to draw too much power from the CPU.
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Power Man MN :- FSP 300 - 60 BT
AC Input - 115/230v~, 10/5A, 60/50 HZ
DC Output - +3.3V 14.0A(org), +5V - 30.0A(red), +12v - 11.0A (yel) + 5VSB
- 2.0A (purp), -5V - 0.3A (white), -12V - 0.8A(blue)
Fuse Rating 6.3A, 250V
Max Output Power 300W (+3.3V&+5V=150W Max)
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1,PRODUCT FEATURES:
Active PFC;
Double Ball-Bearing Fan;
Dual Fan;
Gold Plated Connectors and fan grill;
Adjustable fan speed - Silent function.
Product Description Hiper 420TS - power supply - 420 Watt
Device Type Power supply
Form Factor Internal
Specification Compliance ATX 2.03
Output Voltage +3.3, ±5, ±12 V
Power Provided 420 Watt
2,Q-Tec PSU ATX 550W Gold PFC Dual Fan PSU for PIII/AMD/P4 CPUs
PRODUCT FEATURES:
550 Watt PSU;
Suitable for ATX systems and Pentium 4;
2 fans inside for optimal cooling;
Noise level less than 33 dB (A);
Complies to latest PFC power distortion standards.
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Device Type Power supply
Form Factor Internal
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MSI KT3 Ultra-Aru (KT333) and Duron Applebred??

Hi, welcome,willkommen,witajcie,dobry den, ... (I know this word in 11 languages)
I have MSI KT3 Ultra-Aru (KT333) and J want to buy AMD Duron 1800MHz(Applebred).
Does my motherboard support that processor?? It will work without problems??

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Originally posted by osnavi
pk.master: It doesn't make any sense to discuss about the answer to your question. If MSI says your Mobo doesn't support that CPU and people who know what they say, agree with that, Why argue ? If you want, go and buy it, as at last you are the one to decide what to do.-
in msi website the 333 fsb cpus are not supported too in kt3 ultra-ultra aru but they still work... so it make sense to discuss if applebred work or not in those mobos.

MSI - KT3 Ultra-ARU Raid + XP

Hi,
I have just built a new system using the MSI - KT3 Ultra-ARU motherboard and am having issues instaling Windows XP professional.
The system has been set with 2 Maxtor HD on Raid 0 Stipping.
On installing Windows XP and Raid Driver 2.0 that comes with the board, XP continues to load the files needed for setup, while in this process it will have a read/copy error. As much as you retry it will not read. This happens on different files each time I try to install and is not a bad CD.
Any suggestions ?

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Chassis: Antec 1080B (300w PSU / 180w COMBINED)
Mainboard: MSI KT3 Ultra ARU
CPU: AMD Athlon XP 1800+
Display: ABIT Siluro GF4 Ti4200 AGP 4X
DVD/CD-RW Combo: HL-DT-ST RW/DVD GCC-4120B
Floppy: Panasonic 1.44MB
HD: Quantum Fireball Plus/AS 30.0GB UDMA 100
Keyboard: Microsoft Internet Keyboard Pro
Monitor: KDS Visual Sensations VS-190
Mouse: Microsoft USB Wheel Mouse Optical
NICs: 3Com 3C900B / DLink DFE-530TX
RAM: Micron DDR 266MHz (2x256MB DIMMs)
Sound: Avance AC'97 Audio
I've had similar problems where my system becomes very unstable at higher bus speeds. Installing Windows XP simply didn't work very good. However, I have ordered a new PSU today as a solution to this problem. Basically, CPUs and video cards are much more demanding and the more devices you have in your computer the more power you're going to need. I recommend purchasing the Enermax EG465P-VE (FCA) 450W ATX PS. It has a higher amperage rating and will most likely solve your problem.
Check your PSU and your bus speed settings...

MSI KT3 Ultra ARU and S2K Bus Disconnect

Hello
I have a MSI KT3 Ultra ARU and a AMD Athlon XP 2600+ (266 FSB version). I wonder if I have support for termal diode in both CPU and mainboard.
Is S2K Bus Disconnect and CPU HALT Command detection the same thing?

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KT3 ultra's I believe were the first boards capable of reading thermal diode inside of AMD XP (Palamino/T-bred/barton, etc) and higher cores.
Not the first, but they were up there as being among the first. A few KT266 boards implemented the circuitry to read thermal diode. Second or third revision boards, or new models, based on KT266A and even KM266 began implementing the thermal diode circuitry.
KT3 Ultra has thermal diode read circuit:
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MSI™ KT3 Ultra...can support AMD Athlon™ XP 2000+ processors, AMD Athlon™ and Duron™ plus it latest technology feature - Thermal Diode Circuit.
- MSI Press Release

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