MSI KT3 Ultra ARU - Can\'t install W2K !!

I've just bought my first AMD powered rig and I'm not able to install W2K pro. First let me say I'm not a computer novice and have been handling workstation/server hardware/software for years in the Intel world.
The failure happens at different places in the install, with different results.. sometimes while copying files the system freezes.. sometimes in the middle of a copy i get the BlueSOD... sometimes after copying files when booting into Windows 2000 for the first time the system just reboots to a black screen and is unable to find a boot partition... so we start over and the install deletes copied files and begins again.
KT3 Ultra ARU
AMD 2200+
Corsair CMX512-3000C2
Pri IDE M - Seagate ST313021A 13GB
Pri IDE S - Sony CDROM CDU6111-F
Sec IDE M - Asus CDRW 4012-A
Sec IDE S - none
Raid Disabled in Bios
Followed Mr.Steveo's guides for hardware installation, flashing BIOS from 5.4 (kept a copy) to 5.5. No problems.
Followed Mr.Steveo's guide for BIOS settings, using his recommendations to the letter, then after failure changed SRRAM freq: to HCLK+66 for 3000C2 ram... BUT still fails.
Additional detail - I lost my original W2KPro CD, and my copy is not bootable... so I'm creating a 2GB DOS partition and booting with a Win98 boot disk to get to the CD and running WINNT from there.
I've gone through the posts on both the AMDMB and MSI forums and seen some insightful suggestions... but nothing that exactly duplicates by problems. Hopefully one of you bright bulbs will be able to light my way. :D
When I get the BSOD I get different STOP errors:
0x0000000A IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL
(BIOS or Drivers using improper memory address)
0x0000001E KMODE_EXCEPTION_NOT_HANDLED
(A kernel mode process tried to execute an illegal or unknown processor instruction)
HELP !!

Back Rev'd the Bios to 5.4 but that didn't help. Back to the forums...
Bas - Thanks for reminding me of the KISS principle (Keep It Simple Stupid). I had simplified the HW but was still altering the Bios settings to where I know they should be.
WELL - I HAVE SUCCESS !!
In further research, (being new to this - remember?) I also find threads saying that I'm supposed to clear the CMOS/NVRAM using a motherboard jumper before powering up the board for the first time and after changing processors. I don't know how accurate that is - maybe someone will be kind enough to elaborate.
I've asked Mr.Steveo in the AMDMB forums if he thinks this step needs to be included in his hardware installation guide. I followed it religiously in my install and it doesn't mention doing this.
Anyway, I got the OS installed. After that, I went back into the Bios and added all suggested settings. I'm getting "2200+" in the boot screens and in the OS.
Now lets finish the install and see if we remain stable. After several days of burnin, I'll OC some to see what I can get.
Thanks Guys!!

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A friend of mine has an MSI mainboard which has a broken component due to his screwdriver slipping off the CPU clamp while installing a new CPU.
The mainboard is an MSI KT3 Ultra-ARU (MS-6380E) ATX Revision 1.0
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I believe it is a Ferrite bead inductor/choke.
We have been unable to find the broken part and would like to replace it. I can fit a new component if I can find out the value of the broken inductor/choke in millihenries or microhenries or picohenries.
Would someone with an - MSI KT3 Ultra-ARU (MS-6380E) ATX Revision 1.0 - mainboard, please take a look at the component labelled L14 and let me know what the numbers on that particular component are?
You will probably need a magnifying glass to do this, unless your eyes are very good!
If you know the value of this component, please help!
I would welcome any information on this, it's a shame to scrap a mainboard because of a component costing only a few cents/pence.
Thanks in advance to anyone who helps on this, I appreciate you taking time and trouble to help.
Dave - needtoknow.

Hi Bas,
I got the part I needed but not from MSI, they would not sell me one, so I went to a USA company called Mouser Electronics.
http://www.mouser.com/
The part cost me only 34 cents US, shipping was $6.00! So for about £4.00 UK I can fix the board. Better than £20.00 by far.
You can order even very small parts from mouser as a one off, something you can't do with most UK companies. Their range of stock is *huge*.
Thank you very much for getting the info about the part from MSI for me. I could not have repaired it if you had not helped me with that, so I owe you.
Dave, needtoknow.

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Originally posted by cje1985
i have a kt3 ultra aru it says it has blue tooth and on the usb 2.0 dongle it says do not remove if you use bluetooth but when i follow the manual to plug it in windows or the software finds the bluetooth connection
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Overclocking the MSI KT3 Ultra ARU

Hey,
I read some reviews with the kt3 Ultra ARU and i have read that people have been getting the FSB up to around 167? Yet, i fail to get it past 151? Any suggestions?
-Knowa-
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Since my chip is an unlocked, I cannot easily run it at the default, but I can underclock it. At 100x6.0=600mhz, USB does not work, as well as 100x12.5. Same with 133x6.0 and 133x12.5. It appears to make no difference underclocking or overclocking.
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MSI KT3 Ultra-ARU with GeForce 4 Ti 4200

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MSI KT3 Ultra-ARU

Can anyway say to me the PCI/AGP dividers of MSI Kt3 ULTRA -ARU?
Thanx in advance

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Originally posted by 343
you got the speeds wrong still.
The agp 1x, 2x, 4x, and on other new mobos 8x, have nothing to do with the speed at which it operates. It has something to do with the transfer and how much more bandwidth there is between the agp card and the system bus.
The 1/4 dividers has:
PCI = 1/4*133 = 33mhz
AGP = 2/4*133 = 66mhz
The 1/5 dividers has:
PCI = 1/5*166 = 33mhz
AGP = 2/5*166 = 66mhz
The futuristic 1/6 dividers will have:
PCI = 1/6*200 = 33mhz
AGP = 2/6*200 = 66mhz
Your equation "...and the AGP card of 4X = 4(FSB/5)" would yield a result of 4(133/5) = 106mhz for the agp so it is way out of spec.
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+5V: +4.89 V (min = +4.50 V, max = +5.48 V)
+12V: +11.89 V (min = +10.79 V, max = +13.11 V)
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hi nailz,
Hope this may solve your problem. In the BIOS, Advanced BIOS Features, set "Boot Sequency" 1st, 2nd, 3rd boot devices to the SAME one, ie Floppy for all, or 1st Master HDD for all. Then reboot. Disable "Try boot device' first. Repeat this until you get the board to boot the device.
If can't,
Clear the CMOS and retry.
If can't,
(In the BIOS) select all IDE devices and set to NONE. Set "Clear NVRAM" in PCI Configuration. Save and exit the BIOS, then re-entering BIOS in the next boot, enable all IDE devices. Save and exit, re-enter BIOS once more, check the "Boot Sequence".
Yup... try changing around with IDE settings in the BIOS. Good luck.

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KT3 ultra's I believe were the first boards capable of reading thermal diode inside of AMD XP (Palamino/T-bred/barton, etc) and higher cores.
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MSI™ KT3 Ultra...can support AMD Athlon™ XP 2000+ processors, AMD Athlon™ and Duron™ plus it latest technology feature - Thermal Diode Circuit.
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