MSI KT333 Ultra2-R and G550 whackyness

ok so there has been about 36 hours of technical nightmares which comes down to this: i have likely stumbled onto a bizarre incompatibility. i installed XP Professional Corporate with SP1 a total of 6 times up until 3 something in the morning (on the upside my system does such in 5 minutes after formating) due to what appears to be a driver issue not a hardware failure. after installing the motherboard chipset (VIA KT333) drivers and then the video card (Matrox G550) drivers sometime thereafter at random points the screen would go black and XP would report a hardware failure and my video display would go to what appeared to be lesser than 640x480 @ 8 colors yet after rebooting things would be peachy keen. i even tried one step back on the VIA drivers and G550's with no fix. the 7th OS install was WIN2K Pro and with the same drivers at the start of this (the current from both parties) there's been no issue (benchmarks were ran for 9 hours straight using PCMark, 3DMark and Sandra). yep it's pretty clear that friday is going to involved calls to Matrox, MSI, and if possible VIA..
Enermax 431W Dual Fan Noise Control
MSI KT333 Ultra2-R
AMD Thunderbird 1400 AYHJA w/ Swiftech MCX462 + Delta 80CFM
Corsair CMX512-3200 512MB DDR
Matrox G550 32MB
Netgear Nic
SB PCI128
2xQuantum 30GB @ RAID 0
Toshiba 16xDVD
Lite-On 48x CDRW
Sony 1.44

interesting as i've had Matrox cards dating back to the original Millennium I&II through to the Millennium/Mystique G200, G400, G450, and G550 with VIA chipsets dating back to the MVP3 and have never seen anything like this. currently the G550 is my card of choice and fact is that the newest set of the VIA drivers have been used on multiple 133/A boards without issue and this is the first 333 in the arsenal of systems i have...

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i speak spanish, sorry.
well, i have an MSI KT3 Ultra2 MS-6380E, but, the level of record y very low, with diferents michrofone, i know of computer, but i can´t have aceptable record, and when tild MIC BOOST the noise can´t use messenger by my modem transmit every time. I have microfone genius.
your "mic boost option" insert noise?, (with microfone disconected )
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Geachte heer, mevrouw,
Jullie hebben in de beginpagina staan dat er een new release is (in juli) van de MSI KT3 Ultra2.
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