MSI KT4V-L & Athlon XP 2600+ Barton

Hi all,
I just upgraded my Athlon XP 2000+ to a Athlon XP 2600+ Barton and i have noticed a problem.
After putting the new CPU on the mobo and a new HS&Fan *Volcano 7+* then flashign the bios, i have had 2 weird reboots.
I had a error once when playing the UT2004 Demo on the 2000+ but i also get errors every now and again witht he 2600+ but thats no big problem its a beta demo so you might expect it but the last error i got said some info as the others did then when i hit ok the pc rebooted.
Also earlyer i went away from the pc then came back and it had rebooted itself again im not sure if this was a power cut or somethin so i am just checking if there any any known problems with the MSI KT4V-L and the AMD Athlon XP 2600+ Barton.
System specs are as follows:
Windows XP /SP1
Latest Drivers
AMD Athlon XP 2600+
MSI KT4V-L
NVIDIA Geforce FX 5900 Ultra 265MB
1GB DDR 400Mhz
550W PSU

AMD Athlon XP 2600+
MSI KT4V-L
NVIDIA Geforce FX 5900 Ultra 265MB
1GB DDR 400Mhz
550W PSU
This is what you list for your system. You also admitted the PSU is a Q-Tec, and have been shown the warning about Q-Tec being very low quality.
1. The 2600 is going to use more power than the 2000.
2. The GeForce FX 5900 uses a lot of power.
3. 1GD Ram uses a lot of power.
You have not listed how many drives you have in your system, but there must be at least 2 (1 HDD & 1 CD) those also use power.
The error message is pointing to a video driver as the culprit, but I am willing to bet it is actually caused from the video card's inability to operate due to low power.
I would try borrowing a better quality PSU, and testing with that, and chances are the problem will disappear.

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