MSI Mpower Max 4770k Help tweek it

Hi there,
this is my first seriouse MSI board in last 3years and i have encountered few problems with overclock
My Pc Specs are:
Intel 4770k
Corsair H70 with 2xNoctua 14FLX p/p
MSI Mpower Max
Kinston Hyper X DDR3 1600mhz 9-9-9-27 2x4GB
Corsair AX860
Intel SSD 510 250GB
Seagate Barracuda 3TB
Samsung F4 2TB
Corsair 650D
all day passed and i am a bit tired of seeing bios and bsods
i think i got the lazy chip help me understand it better and learn things on the way.
this is most stable i got.
Bios E7815IMS.133
CPU ratio: x44
Ratio: Fixed
Ring: x39
Vcore 1.25v Offset 0.015V
Svid comm. Enabled
from digitall i changed only CPU Vdrop to 100%
Ram set on xmp and manualy entered timings and voltage and speed 1600
With this i pass AIDA 64 stress test for 30min no problem
cinebench pass
when i open Prime95 Blend test 15min pass and bsod..
Temps were 80-85c with room 25c
Everything else in bios is set to default (auto)
Any tips how to tweek it more?
i tried x45 with settings as above i boot into windows pass cinebench but crash on aida64.
i also tryed just x46 with voltage bump up to 1.28v with offset 0.015
I will be deliding as soon as my h220 arrives and CLU.
Also is there some special USB so i can take the screenshots?
i tried all the ports different flashes also formated to FAT32 and NTFS same its saying no usb dongle..
When i put my WD 2TB HDD it recognize it but when i want to save the Screenshot it gives this message
"allocate file system resource fail"
I would post Screanshots but as i mentioned above its annoying problem..
Thanks in advance guys.
Edit:
just to see if i have lazy chip i tryed 1.3v with settings above and x47-48 wont even post.... :(
found flash that is working

ok i tryed this also
Internal VR efficiency management - disabled in screanshots its enabled
with this i am able to make 30mind aida with no crash temps a bit high but can be managed, i boot into windows with this vcore and x45 but unstable during aida 10min bsod
i boosted the voltage to 1.275 with offset 0.015v and got me 20min aida then bsod. any way i can tweek it more?

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null
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Once the CPU V. is taken out of auto and set manually, the voltage isn't going to drop at idle.
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That's not what I was led to believe?
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