MSI N560GTX-Ti Hawk PerfCap with Dual Monitor setup

Hi guys,
as far as I'm concerned, there shouldn't be a PerfCap when running a setup with two monitors on extend desktop setting, am I right? However, my GTX560-Ti does PerfCap and sometimes even does this while gaming (which is incredibly annoying). The only way to get it to clock up again is to reboot my PC.
My question is, why is that and how can I get rid of this behavior? I already tried updating the VBIOS but it didn't help.
Thanks in advance
Monsterkater

I'm sorry, I thought "PerfCap" would be a known term.
As the title states, it's a MSI N560GTX-Ti Hawk. The Card is clocking down, GPU-Z reports "PerfCap Reason: Util" which is, according to Google Search, because it isn't challenged enough. However, when running a dual monitor setup it should (again according to Google Search) always run at the default speeds (950/1050/1900 Core/Memory/Shader). I have updated my signature to show my system details as listed in the Posting Guide.
The temperatures under load are okay, the highest I have seen was 76°C GPU, 74°C Memory and 69°C VRM (all of them measured with MSI Afterburner). I have tried several drivers including Beta drivers and always checked "perform a clean installation". I also tried updating the VBIOS. I didn't know what else to try because Google Search doesn't yield much results for this.

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