MSI N580GTX - freezing games

Got a new MSI 580GTX Twin Frozr II/OC. After using it for a month or so it started acting up. When playing a more demanding game (Call of Duty: Black Ops, BulletStorm, Homefront, etc) it runs well for a few minutes, and when GPU temperature reaches about 60 or 65C (which is not that much) game freezes. When I press Ctrl-Alt-Del and I start Task Manager (or simply cancel and go back to game) most of the times it continues to run for some time (from a few seconds up to a minute or two) probably until temp reaches critical again. If I play something less demanding, such as CSS, if I'm lucky I might not get a freeze, but occasionally I do, but after a longer period, something like 15-20 mins or more. This didn't happen when it was brand new, a couple of months ago, but it started at some point while playing Bulletstorm and then somewhat got worse. First I thought it was a hitch with the new NVidia drivers 275.33 (which is not unheard of:) so I tried reverting to some older versions. Went through 270.61 and a couple more, now I'm on 267.24 and it makes no difference. Tried upgrading (and then downgrading to be sure) to latest BIOS version on the video card (1.04) and that didn't help either. Motherboard BIOS has been upgraded more than a year ago, with no issues, and it has worked that way so I'm pretty sure that's not it. Being all out of options I pulled it out to clean it (there was no dust on it by the way) and re-seated it nicely on the slot, just to be sure. Nope, that didn't fix anything. By the way, when I get the freezes, GPU usage is not even that high, it runs at about 50-60% capacity. CPU is also about 50% but never goes above 55 or 60C on core #4 (always the hottest), but I never had any problems with the CPU overheating before anyway.
So I'm getting tired of this, I think the card is defective and I would like to return it, but I live in Belgium and I couldn't find any service center or similar in Belgium. I'm starting to think it was a mistake to buy MSI stuff.
Oh, and just anticipating your PSU question, I don't think that's the case. I have a Thermaltake ToughPower 700W PSU that has been running for something like two years with no issue, and my previous video card was sucking about as much current out if it as this one (it was a 9800GX2, may it rest in peace). So as I said, I sincerely doubt it's the PSU.
System configuration is:
Mobo: Asus Striker II NSE
CPU: Intel Core 2 Quad 9450 @ 2.66GHz
2x500Gb WD HDDs
PSU: Thermaltake ToughPower 700W
Memory: Corsair XMS3 DHX CM3X2G1333C9DHX
OS: Win7 Ultimate x64
That enough about sys config or do you want to know more?
Thanks, any help appreciated.

Quote from: Hiro on 12-June-11, 09:36:07
.... and when GPU temperature reaches about 60 or 65C (which is not that much) game freezes. ..
what is the speed of the GPU fan with those temps ? and second question; do you clean the old drivers before install this new card ?

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Quote from: hellbent joker on 21-February-11, 22:33:41
Ok so I played JC2 for about an hour and Crysis Warhead for about 30 mins and no crashes. I did experience some lag - noticable in parts of Warhead where the frames dropped considerably. Neither game was butter smooth. I am gaming at 2560x1600 with everything to the max. So do you suggest I test the other card now or is there something I can do to improve the performance of this one ? Thanks again for all your help Svet.
That one is working well then.
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Neither game was butter smooth. I am gaming at 2560x1600 with everything to the max. So do you suggest I test the other card now or is there something I can do to improve the performance of this one ? Thanks again for all your help Svet.
apply latest drivers from nvidia , apply latest games patches
this is not vga problem
Quote from: hellbent joker on 21-February-11, 23:15:15
I have also played through Metro 2033 for a while and no crashes there either. I will test the other card tomorrow by itself when I get some time.
yes, test the second one now [also alone], with the same tests

MSI N580GTX warranty return

I bought an MSI N580GTX about 4 months ago. After about a month it started acting up, whenever temperature exceeds 55 or 60C (and that's easy to get if you run the GPU at something like 50% load or even less than that) it freezes up the system. If I go back to windows (Ctrl-Alt-Del and then switch back to game) it runs again for another while and then starts acting again. My guess is that the GPU goes bananas and becomes irresponsive to driver, which then resets it and so it continues to run again for a while.
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Problems with my new MSI N580GTX-M2D15D5/OC Please help

Hi, purchased the above card from kuala lumpur, Malaysia on the 19th February 2011 when I visited Malaysia. Installed the card on my Core i7 950 rig.
My card is MSI N580GTX-M2D15D5/OC 3DMark 11 edition.
Had issues installing the card, blue screened many times. I was using a GTX295 with a 8800GT to handle physx earlier with no problems what so ever.
So I removed my 8800GT and checked only with the new GTX580, the card runs as an OC edition, but now the problem is I experience random freezing when I run 3D Mark 11 (It says " windows focus was lost" during bench mark running) and Crysis.
Even Mafia II bench marks gives me a rather low rating as "D", where I was getting a comfortable "C" with my earlier 295 arrangement. Crysis crashed many times too.
Posted here is a screen shot of my GPU Z and afterburner shows a 1000 mv. And I am using 266.58 drivers.
My Rig specs are, if it helps:
1.ASUS Rampage III Formula LGA 1366 Intel X58 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
2. Intel Core i7-950 Bloomfield 3.06GHz 4 x 256KB L2 Cache 8MB L3 Cache LGA 1366 130W Quad-Core Processor
3. CORSAIR DOMINATOR 6GB (3 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Triple Channel Kit Desktop Memory
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5. Western Digital Caviar Black WD1001FALS 1TB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
6. Seagate Barracuda 7200.11 ST31500341AS 1.5TB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive
7. MSI N580GTX-M2D15D5/OC Graphic Card
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9. Creative GigaWorks S750 700 Watts 7.1 Speaker
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11. ViewSonic 22" VX2255wmb widescreen LCD monitor
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Hi Swet, did all the testing in between my work, sorry I got late to reply. Smiley
It's like this. Managed to get 3D Mark 11 working back again after so many tries. I just disabled the screen saver, and it was okay after that. Strange isn't it?
with 1025mV I got a reading of P6350 and with 1038 I got P6365.
we can assume this as 3D Mark 11 issue
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D mark vantage running was okay. Completed Furmark bench successfully many times. No issues there. http://www.ozone3d.net/benchmarks/furmark_score_190.php?id=147818
Looks like to be Kombuster issue.. since Furmark can work fine. Kombuster is based on Furmark.
If you apply reference clocks from AB does the issue described persist with Kombuster ?
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I didn't go ahead with it without consulting you. Please be kind to check it out for me.
Also I could play CRYSIS 2 Demo without any issue with 1025mV and 1038mV both.
Temps were around 70-75 C. Is it okay.
My personal preference is 1038mV.
Well, what do you think? Thanks very much. Smiley
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I didn't go ahead with it without consulting you. Please be kind to check it out for me.
I've check it and it's the same version as your current installed.
E.g. flashing to this one will not change anything
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Also I could play CRYSIS 2 Demo without any issue with 1025mV and 1038mV both.
Temps were around 70-75 C. Is it okay.
My personal preference is 1038mV.
Well, what do you think? Thanks very much.
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MSI N580GTX Twin Frozr II/OC BSOD crash under low load.

MSI N580GTX Twin Frozr II/OC
Motherboard: ASUS P8Z68-V LE LGA 1155
Windows 7 Professional 64
Basically my computer gets a BSOD whenever it's under low load. Like just using an internet browser or word processing program.
Even if I just turn my computer on and leave it on the desktop it will just BSOD.
It never crashes when I am playing a video game. In fact in order to keep my system running without a BSOD I run a game in the background so it won't crash when I browsing.
I took out the card and I have not had any issues. So I thinking perhaps this might be a weird issue with the LucidLogix Virtu (Universal Switchable Graphics) - Auto Switching between Integrated Graphics and the Card.
The bugcheck was: 0x0000001a (0x0000000000041790, 0xfffffa8004637a90, 0x000000000000ffff, 0x0000000000000000).

Which Nvidia drivers and which browser are you using ? >>Posting Guide<<
If you look on the NVidia Forum, you will see that this is quite a common complaint from numerous users and not particular to any specific manufacturers card. For some, drivers solve the issue, others a slight increase in core voltage solves the issue.
http://forums.nvidia.com/index.php?showtopic=215256&hl=browser crash&st=0
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Revamp!!! MSI N580GTX Lightning Extreme Edition VC

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• Video Output Functions – 2x Dual-Link DVI, 1x HDMI and 1x Display Port
• Compose of Military Class 2 Components for longer lifespan and better overclocking ability (Solid Capacitors, Super Ferrite Chokes, Hi-C Caps, Lightning Power PCB Layer, Copper MOS and Proadilizer)
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Black colored underneath plate which serves as heatsink for memory and VRM chips. It also acts as support or brace for long video cards so that it won’t slant down once installed.
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•2x 6pin Power to 8pin PCIE Power Connector
•DVI to VGA Connector
•Software & Utility DVD
•Manual and Quick Guide
•V-Check Points Connector
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•Motherboard: Z68A-GD80
•Memory: Kingston 2x2GB DDR3 2133MHz
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3dmark11 Result: 6535
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3dmark11 2nd Result: 6815
N580GTX Lightning is such a powerful card that even at stock settings, power performance is enough to play all latest games in high resolution with extreme detail settings. Then if the power is still enough for you, you could still use the MSI Afterburner Software to juice out more from the video card or configure it in SLI.

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Display driver : ForceWare 280.26
have you tried MSI's drivers for your card?
==> http://www.msi.com/product/vga/N580GTX-Lightning-Xtreme-Edition.html#/?div=Driver&os=All
Remove current driver with >>Driver Sweeper<< in 'Safe Mode' before install the new one
Quote from: Frakatchoo on 07-September-11, 22:13:04
It's only unstable when i'm use the GPU (Games & benchs), not HD videos.
Most games/bench crashes with default clock @ 1.031v. I tried to overvolted & undervolted the GPU, but my tests were not conclusive. The only way i've found to have all games/benchs stable is to downclock the GPU as I explained in my first post.
Maybe i need a more accurate GPU voltage ? Is it important to change Memory & Aux voltage too ?
have you tested with 1050mV for core?
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Is it important to change Memory & Aux voltage too ?
normally not, but depend what exactly is unstable
But it should work fine by default as is

MSI N580GTX TwinFrozrII OC latest Bios??

@svet
hi, can u guys help me to see if the vbios i have is up to date or should i update.
my gpu is currently a MSI N580GTX TwinFrozrII OC
S/N: 602-V255-060B1104074753
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Hi zunaid, check this out : >>Disable GeForce GTX 580 Power Throttling using GPU-Z<<, but I never do that because mycard already has OCP unlocker ^_^
I also never run Furmark again as it draws too much power and can damage your card.
Btw I think there is no new BIOS for GTX580.

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I want to overclock this card MSI N580GTX Lightning Xtreme Edition (MSI N580GTX Lightning Xtreme Edition GeForce GTX 580 (Fermi) 3072 MB 384-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card), but I don't know how far I can get. Can you help me overclock this to get a maximum performing? and how can I do that? can you guide me?
what is temperature should be consider over heat and might damage card?
After overclock, can I keep that always in 3-5 days without shutdown computer?
Here is default Corelock 832, Shaderlock: 1664, memory clock 2100
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Quote from: flobelix on 02-December-12, 01:03:03
Playing aan entire level of Crysis or Crysis2 with extreme settings is a very sure way to test. A multiplayer round of BF3 at max settings is also a good test.
If you got the max stable clockrates without overvolting and temps are fine. Go on adding voltage in small steps and agin try the highest max clockrate of any voltage step. That way you'll find the total max clockrate. At some point adding voltage will have no effect anymore and that is the highest clockrate. Remember that voltage unlike just higher clockrates will increase the temps massively.
Agreed with flobelix
Crysis 2 with ultra setting and set Vsync to Disabled is a very hard test in real life application, I don't use furmark or kombustor. To test stability first I run Vantage and 3DMark2011 then playing Crysis 2 about 2 - 3 hours every day for aweek or 2 weeks and if pass then I call it stable
I use GTX580 Lightning and at stock volt I can do 920/2200 with all little DIP switches turned ON/Enabled/Unlocked excluding Xtreme cooling LN2 DIP switch since I use normal air cooling and not LN2. If I let all DIP switches to their stock/OFF even at 900MHz I can't pass Vantage.
For safe daily OC better stay under 80c for your core temp and under 70c for your VRM & Memory temp also do not use beyond +200mv for your core voltage (+200mv is the max value)
Note : For 24/7 I use 980/2300 with +112mv/+40mv. VRM and memory temp are under 60c and Core temp is under 80c.

MSI N580GTX SLI Compatibility

Hi,
I want to sell my MSI N580GTX Twin Frozr III Power Edition.
Someone want to buy it for SLI, but the problem that he got an MSI N580GTX Lightning Edition
From the outside they look exactly the same, but is SLI possible between those two GPU ?

Hi Meyo,
I cannot answer/reply your PM (no rights???) so i will answer you here.
I still don't know for sure if it will work, the only difference is that de Lightning has more seperate power fases.
It basicly is the same PCB only the Lightning is more robust and has a higher default clock.
Anyhoe, i finally did find another lightning card!!!.
Ashame that i need a bigger PSU now
My current PSU is the "Scythe Chouriki 2 850W" but when i start to overclock mildly say, 925/1850/2250, the PSU pulls with max benchmarking (Prime95+Furmark) 838W uit of the wall sockett (just the cord from the PSU, monitor and sutch are not calculated in the 838W)
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Noisy Fan on MSI N580GTX Twin Frozr II

Hi Everyone, I am a new user to this forum so I am sorry if this is the wrong section to post this question. I didn't see a section devoted to hardware issues.
The fan closest to the vent on my MSI N580GTX Twin Frozr II is now making a low hum. There is no obstruction so I think it is just the fan wearing itself out. The card is about 1.5 year old. I think the warranty is 2 years. But I am not familiar with the process. Is this covered under warranty? or is this considered normal wear and tear?
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depend, if there is a physical damage, the warranty will be void.
can be performed paid repair instead

MSI N580GTX lightning running at stock specs

Hi,
I just bought two MSI N580GTX lightning for my sli setup .
One of my card is running at 772mhz ( stock ) speed with standard bios and the other one is at
832mhz ( as it should be ) also with standard bios .
So is there a way to fix the first one to run at 832mhz instead of 772 ? I know how to do it with MSI AB but i want a bios fix.
the two cards differs in respect with their bios , 1st one is 70.10.17 and the 2nd one is 17.10.20 , so i'm guessing something
is wrong with the 70.10.17 bios . So can i extract the bios from the 2nd card and use it in the 1st ?
p.s. if I use the ln2 bios for the 1st card , then it runs at the factory oc settings .
Thanks

ok close the thread as I found out what the problem was.
They mixed up the bios with ln2 and standard, as the standard was showing CBB FIX ( which should be in ln2 for sub zero ocing ).
anyways , awesome cards

Which number of extension slot does a MSI N580GTX-TWIN FROZR II/OC use?

Hello,
I want to mount a sli of MSI N580GTX-TWIN FROZR II but it is possible in any motherboards with two PCI-E 16x slot.
The radiator of this graphic board isn't to wide and block the access to the 2nd slot?
The mother card i want to use is the Gigabyte GA-P67A-UD7-B3.
oh and sorry for my english I am french.

you should ask gigabyte about it, we support msi products only.
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I don't have the mother board actually and i don't found the manuel.
go look in their site then

MSI N580GTX Twin Frozr II/OC

I need MSI N580GTX Twin Frozr II/OC orinal bios rom file!!!

Quote from: freelancer85 on 25-April-12, 23:45:05
602-V255-13SB1112114153
here it is.

MSI N580GTX Twin Frozr II Overclocked Bios

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core voltage 1012
coreclock 822
shader 1645
memory 2138
Everyone knows that settings which specified below is unstable.. what a shame that is default settings which produced by msi
I need new bios of overclocked version;and also I don't want to descrease coreclocks.. if I want to default version of gtx580 I would purchased standart version.. but I was'nt.. So i purchased oc version and i want to experienced it as overclocked
MSI N580GTX Twin Frozr II
S/N:602-V255-01SB1101009487

Quote from: SLaYeR KiNG on 27-February-11, 00:30:57
Everyone knows that settings which specified below is unstable.. what a shame that is default settings which produced by msi
I need new bios of overclocked version;and also I don't want to descrease coreclocks.. if I want to default version of gtx580 I would purchased standart version.. but I was'nt.. So i purchased oc version and i want to experienced it as overclocked
MSI N580GTX Twin Frozr II
S/N:602-V255-01SB1101009487
Flash to this BIOS ==> https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=146139.msg1087535#msg1087535
Retest
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I need new bios of overclocked version;and also I don't want to descrease coreclocks.. if I want to default version of gtx580 I would purchased standart version.. but I was'nt.. So i purchased oc version and i want to experienced it as overclocked
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I need new bios of overclocked version;and also I don't want to descrease coreclocks..
You have to..,
800MHz, 4096MHz are the right clocks for your card and not 822...4276
==> http://eu.msi.com/product/vga/N580GTX-Twin-Frozr-II-OC.html
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if I want to default version of gtx580 I would purchased standart version.. but I was'nt.. So i purchased oc version and i want to experienced it as overclocked
It will be still OC-ed, stock/reference clocks are 772MHz,4008MHz,
while you will have 800MHz, 4096MHz as OC version

Help - How to Update Bios on MSI N580GTX SLI

I have searched and all I ever see are instructions about updating the BIOS on the Mobo.
I have two MSI N580GTX that I "think" I need to update the Bios. For some reason LiveUpdate 5 doesnt do a thing when updating in Windows.
System Specs:
W764 Ultimate
AMD Phenom II X4 970
MSI NF980-G65 (MS-7612) v1.4
MSI N580GTX (SLI) Bios Version 70.10.17.00.01
What are the steps ? For Video Cards ?

To your edited and add-ed info:
Quote from: DigitalFruit on 28-March-11, 06:05:31
The Cards are N580GTX Twin Frozr II/OC that came with 822 MHz Core
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However though it rolled back the clock ? Why was this when out of box it was 822 ?
Because of outdated VBIOS of the card{s}.
800, 4096 are correct one for your cards:
http://www.msi.com/product/vga/N580GTX-Twin-Frozr-II-OC.html

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