MSI N770 Lightning vs MSI N760 Hawk

Hi guys.
I don't know which graphic card should I get. Originally I wanted to get XFX or Asus R9 280,but they both s**k. So I decided to think about opposite "camp" and go with NVidia based cards.
Now,I heard a lot of good things about N760 Hawk,a lot of people say that it's best 760 card which I could find. I also heard a lot of great things about N780 Lightning,but price is crazy,so I thought I could get N770 Lightning.
My shop is very limited with brands,and at the moment they don't have N770 Lightning,and they have N760 Hawk.
I've heard N760 Hawk has 5 heat pipes (compared to Gaming which has 4). So I was wondering if N770 Lightning or the Lightning series have also 5 heat pipes? How are the temperatures compared on this 2 cards?
If 770 Lightning has 5 heat pipes and it's colder.
Question is: I have XFX 450W Core Edition PSU (Best 450W PSU which exists),and I was wondering: will my PSU be enough for N770 Lightning if I'm not planing to OC graphic card?
Tnx for your answers.
GS.

Hello,
About PSU: 450W is not enough for either of them. For 760 or above it is recommended to have 600W (as the minimum) power supply.
Both cards has similar cooling, but I would prefer lightning edition (hey, it's 770 not 760 which is little bit lower in performance). However if you also look for the design to fit your case, then that's up to you. Obviously if the card will run hot, most likely you will have to reapply thermal paste (very common in case of GPUs).
Your shop is very limited, but why not use this search, just pick your country Already selected for N770 lightning
http://www.msi.com/service/wheretobuy/130/0/0/0/1

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MSI N770 Lightning.. The Lightning Continues...

From MSI N680GTX Lightning to the R7970 Lightning, now comes the new N770 Lightning.
First of all let’s talk about the GTX 770 GPU Chip. It has the same GK104 graphics processor as the GTX 680 have but cranked up. Reference core and boost clocks have been raised to 1046MHz/1085Mhz and the memory speed to 7GT/s. Aside from this, the GTX 770 GPU Boost has been upgraded to version 2.0, allowing Higher Clocks to punch in more often.
Comparing: GTX 770 vs GTX 680
Stream Processor:1536 - 1536
Texture Units:128 - 128
ROPs :32 - 32
Core Clock:1046Mhz - 1006MHz
Boost Clock:1085Mhz - 1058MHz
Memory Clock: 7Ghz GDDR5 - 6Ghz GDDR5
Memory Bus Width: 256 Bit - 256 Bit
TDP:230W - 195W
Transistor Count: 3.5B - 3.5B
Mftg. Process: 28nm - 28nm
Now with the N770 Lightning, the video card has been factory overclocked to a core speed of 1150 Mhz (ref. 1046) and a boost clock of 1202 Mhz (ref. 1085) while the memory clock has been kept on a standard speed of 7010 Mhz. The GTX 770 Lightning will also use MSI’s GPU Reactor providing higher power levels and cleaner signals for the GPU. Other components that MSI have integrated into the card are the Military Class IV, voltage check points and 8+8pin PCIE Power connector thus making the video card break limits in the world of overclocking.
Here are the things you will find upon flipping the front cover of the box…
For the accessories…
•Certificate of Quality & Stability
•Quick User’s Guide
•Driver Utility Disc
•SLI Bridge Connector
•V-Check Point Connectors (connecting this with your digital multi-meter will show the actual voltages of certain components of the video card like the GPU)
•2x 6 Pin to 8 Pin Power Connectors
•DVI to VGA Adapter
With the Lightning’s TwinFrozr 4 cooler, it promises to bring the video card temps below 60c and at the same time being quiet. It also boast the 2x 10cm Propeller Blade Fan technology which provides higher air volume to the card for faster heat dissipation. Dust Removal technology is also been implemented now in the Lightning series of video cards as it automatically cleans your video card.
Two SLI bridges on top of the N770 Lightning and to clarify things up, it is only intended for a Tri-SLI configuration.
Below are three SuperPipes with one being on top which also helps cooling the GPU chip. You can also see at the bottom part of the video card the Golden SSC Military Class IV Components.. These components are no ordinary; they can withstand extreme conditions, run with stability and power efficiency and provides longer lifespan to the video card.
Checking the back side of the card, back-plate is installed thus making it cooler and to avoid bending the video card. The blue circle thing you see there is the GPU-Reactor – an additional PCB connected at the back of the video card which also lights up when powered up.
Video Outputs:
•Dual-link DVI-I x 1
•Dual-link DVI-D x 1
•DisplayPort x 1 (version 1.2)
•HDMI x 1 (version 1.4a)
My Test System:
•Processor: Intel i7 3770K
•Motherboard: MSI Z77 MPower
•Memory: G. Skill Pi Black 2x2GB 2200Mhz
•SSD: Kingston HyperX 3k 90GB
•PSU: Antec TPQ 1200
First set of benchmarks are all on Stock Speed.
1. 3dMark06 29765
2. 3dMark Vantage P34525
3. 3dMark11 P10759
4. Heaven DX11 X 2341.411
2nd Set of benchmarks, all were overclocked. From the Processor, Memory and as well as the Video Card. You can also see that the video card would perform better on an overclocked Processor.
1. 3dMark06 38407
2. 3dmark Vantage P39691
3. 3dmark11 P12356
4. Heaven DX11 X 2477.77
That would be it

Hello,
About PSU: 450W is not enough for either of them. For 760 or above it is recommended to have 600W (as the minimum) power supply.
Both cards has similar cooling, but I would prefer lightning edition (hey, it's 770 not 760 which is little bit lower in performance). However if you also look for the design to fit your case, then that's up to you. Obviously if the card will run hot, most likely you will have to reapply thermal paste (very common in case of GPUs).
Your shop is very limited, but why not use this search, just pick your country Already selected for N770 lightning
http://www.msi.com/service/wheretobuy/130/0/0/0/1

[REQUEST] VBIOS / UEFI GOP MSI N770 Lightning

Dear Sir,
I'd like to ask / request UEFI GOP for my purpose MSI fast boot
here is my S/N: 602-V283-10SB1307013586
then I attached my GPU info through GPU-Z below
dropbox.com/s/m9t9v6nto5qyz4k/GK104.rom
Thanks in advance

Use the attached (.260 is normal and .270 is the LN2 version)
Decompress the provided .rar archive with Winrar: http://www.rarlab.com/download.htm
Then flash the desired file with Nvflash for dos: http://www.guru3d.com/files_details/nvflash_download.html
To do so rename the desired file to .rom and create a dos bootstick (https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=165175.0)
Put nvflash and the vbios file on it and boot from the stick. Then type nvflash -4 -5 -6 gop.rom (if renamed vbios that way) and hit enter. Confirm the questions and let the tool flash.

[request] Latest MSI N770 Lightning UEFI/GOP BIOS

Wanted to see if I am running the latest version of bios.
s/n : 602-v283-10sb1308023393
p.s. breaking the link
rom file : h_ttps://www.dropbox.com/s/s2g5f4fubo62j7u/GK104.rom?dl=0
Thank you,

You are using a legacy vbios (TV283MS.260).
Latest UEFI versions are attached (.260 is normal and .270 is the LN2 version)
Decompress the provided .rar archive with Winrar: http://www.rarlab.com/download.htm
Then flash the desired file with Nvflash for dos: http://www.guru3d.com/files_details/nvflash_download.html
To do so rename the desired file to .rom and create a dos bootstick (https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=165175.0)
Put nvflash and the vbios file on it and boot from the stick. Then type nvflash -4 -5 -6 gop.rom (if renamed vbios that way) and hit enter. Confirm the questions and let the tool flash.

MSI R7970 Lightning vs MSI GTX 680 Twin Frozr III OC 2 GB

Hey
I am looking to finalize my new build, however I am having a hard time deciding between these two cards. I will be doing some overclocking of course:)
Which path would you recommended, AMD or nVidia?
Thanks!

GTX680s are out of producation for quite a while. ebay is your only hope so far. Shops that still have GTX680s are often selling those at totally insane prices. A 780ti would be a better idea. SLI strongly depends on driver and SLI profile support and may feel laggy despite high fps. One high-end gpu is always better than two lower classed cards in SLI.

GOP / UEFI Vbios requests For MSI N760 HAWK

I'm searching for a UEFI VBIOS for MSI N760 HAWK
The S/N is 602-V300-01SC1308036613-V26
Here is my vBIOS :
ht_tp://www.mediafire.com/download/bxj3ebb270t5bxs/GK104.rom
Please repair the link, I'm not allowed to post external link,thanks
nvflash information:
NVIDIA Firmware Update Utility (Version 5.118)
Adapter: GK1xx (10DE,1187,1462,3000) H:--:NRM B:01,PCI,D:00,F:00
The display may go *BLANK* on and off for up to 10 seconds during access to the EEPROM depending on your display adapter and output device.
Identifying EEPROM...
EEPROM ID (EF,3012) : WBond W25X20A 2.7-3.6V 2048Kx1S, page
Reading adapter firmware image...
Image Size : 62464 bytes
Version : 80.04.BF.00.69
~CRC32 : 83ED16F4
OEM String : NVIDIA
Vendor Name : NVIDIA Corporation
Product Name : GK104 Board - 20040010
Product Revision : Chip Rev
Device Name(s) : GK1xx
Board ID : E115
PCI ID : 10DE-1187
Subsystem ID : 1462-3000
Hierarchy ID : Normal Board
Chip SKU : 225-0
Project : 2004-0010
CDP : N/A
Build Date : 05/24/13
Modification Date : 07/23/13
Sign-On Message : GK104 P2004 SKU 0010 VGA BIOS (HWDIAG)
MSINV300MS.103
SN:602-V300-01SC1308036613-V26

Yes your card has dual BIOS.
Use NV300MH.101
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So how do i use them?
rename it to .rom, then use nvidia flash tool to flash it:
http://www.techpowerup.com/downloads/2258/nvflash-5-142-for-windows/

[REQUEST] MSI R7970 Lightning BE bios

Hi ppl xD need your help - need to lower my Voltage on MSI R7970 Lightning BE, its lock on 1.256V, I need it for mining, so I will tray to setup 0.950V or like this,
who can help me ? xD
LN2 Bios:
---- dropmefiles.com/Bdzh2
techpowerup.com/gpuz/w4s8g/
912 - v278 - 017
S/N: 602-V278-04081305003344
BIOS Version: 015.030.000.002.000000 (113-xxx-xxx)
TechPowerUP GPU-Z 0.7.4 say: Bios is already part of our collection: 142887.rom

Well, asking for a vbios it wasn't obvious that you are trying with Afterburner and didn't know even how to enable voltage control. You could have found out by reading sticky topics too:
>>How to use MSI Afterburner<<
Quote from: How to use MSI Afterburner
Overvolting with the overvolting slider will work the same way what means what you set will be added to the stock voltage. Note that overvolting gpu on Kepler (GTX600) is limited on non unlocked cards (Lightning/Hawk) to the nvidia max of 1.175v and setting anything else will therefor be useless.
If overvolting is greyed out and can't be changed you have to activate it in "Settings"/"General".
Simply check "Unlock voltage control" and "Unlock voltage monitoring"

Problems with msi r6970 lightning

Hey guys I am having big issues with my 6970 lightning. Ok first I got this card to replace a second sapphire 6970 that I was running in xfire with another sapphire 6970. I since gave one of the sapphires to a relative. When I first got the lightning all went smooth benched it in a single card config then added my other sapphire 6970. No issues. Out of nowhere things rapidly went downhill. I first received a crash in grfs as I loaded shattered mountain. Froze with a sound loop then the screen turned black with a continued sound loop that eventually stopped. Reset the machine figuring it was the OC. On the lighting I had it set as 985/1400 fan 80% voltage @ 1.300 vlts. Prior to the crash I used a combo of heaven 3.0, kombustor and 3dmark 11 all passed numerous loops without issues. Again thinking it was the oc I down clocked to stock then fired up grfs multiplayer which crashed n froze on the main menu. I then ran heaven and after 10 min a solid black screen that eventually recovered throwing a display driver has stopped responding but has recovered. Now I knew something was up.
I then ran kombustor same issues black screens sometimes a 8bit Nintendo looking screen when u need to blow in the cartridge. After countless hours of stress testing my CPU with prime, memtest, and Intel burn, I ruled out my other hardware as being the cause. I ran 2 hours of prime, Intel burn passed the maximum stress test, memtest passed until about 500% on each iteration (7 to be exact) windows version. This both with my OC and at stock. Here's for the finale I have a second machine (ill include both machines at the bottom of this post) I installed the lightening in the second rig not one single issue no black screen, no 8bit Nintendo crashes nada. Again I've tried every fix known to no prevail. Reinstalled drivers 12.10 rolled back to 12.8 used driver fusion to clear out the old remnants, swapping cards and systems. The lightning ran flawless in the old rig for hours. Now the sapphire card runs all the gpu stress tests I've tried flawlessly in the main rig at stock and OC. so I assumed the lightning was dying. But I tried the lightning in my second AMD pc (with a MSI mobo coincidentally) and it ran heaven, kombuster, and games without a single crash.
The only option I didn't try was taking the PSU out of the main pc and using it in the older pc to rule out the psu. But that still don't explain why the sapphire card works perfectly in the main rig and not the lightning. The second fix I didn't try was updating the mobo bios I'm using the f3 gigabyte has up to the f6 but I never had issues b4 and my sapphire 6970 and when I had two in xfire, ran perfect in the main pc with stock and oc settings, with the current PSU and bios. Food for though, gpu temps sapphire 45c to 50c idle 75c to 80c load. Lightning 41c idle 70c to 74c load. Right where they need to be. Another thing to add I originally had a gigabyte Odin 1200 PSU that got ... Well let's say replaced (garbage of a PSU) the HX750 meets AMD requirements for xfire 6970s this almost rules out everything except BIOS or worst case the lightning just ain't compatible with the gigabyte mobo. Any ideas how to get this card to work after all the testing I know its not defective. Sry for the long post.
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Gigabyte 890FX UD5 ver 2.0 bios
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1X sapphire 6970 reference and MSI R6970 lightning 900/1400- 985/1400
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Cooler master Haf X, with 4 220mm fans, vista ultimate 6
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MSI DKA790GXM Platinum
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Asus dvd burner
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I also use cpuid hwmonitor to check temps n volts 12 vlt rail is at 12.05 during load. The gpu load temps on the lightning nvr exceed 72c at stock and 76c with the oc. Should I get a new mobo? Compatibility issue? I was looking at a asrock 990fx extreme 3 as this would allow me to upgrade my CPU later if I choose. I am on my current main pc bc bulldozer didn't grab me. Some benches r less than the x6s, my two 6970s perform btr than a single 7970 for my needs and the only increase I would see is if I got two 7970s that's way to much coin n would be bottlenecked by my current CPU I'm sure. Any ideas? I'm at a loss

[BIOS REQUEST] UEFI GOP vbios for MSI N770 TF 2GD5/OC

Hi
Looking UEFI GOP vbios for my MSI N770 TF 2GD5/OC
Serial number: 602-V282-220B1312074608
Original bios version: 80.04.C3.00.21 (P2005-0000)

Use >>this<<
Decompress the provided .rar archive with Winrar: http://www.rarlab.com/download.htm
Then flash the included file with Nvflash for dos: http://www.guru3d.com/files_details/nvflash_download.html
To do so rename the included file to .rom and create a dos bootstick (https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=165175.0)
Put nvflash and the vbios file on it and boot from the stick. Then type nvflash -4 -5 -6 gop.rom (if renamed vbios that way) and hit enter. Confirm the questions and let the tool flash.

Request UEFI GOP VBIOS for MSI N770 TF 2GD5/OC

Hello
Request UEFI GOP VBIOS for MSI N770 TF 2GD5/OC
Current Bios Version 80.04.B4.00.2F(P2005-0000)
S/N : 602-V282-20SB1306027491
Can you show me the procedure how to flash the VBIOS
Thanks

Quote from: cepeschar on 09-April-14, 04:22:52
Can you show me the procedure how to flash the VBIOS
Thanks
Download the proper vbios image from the link given in prevision reply, then:
Here are flash instrunstions as well:
Quote from: flobelix on 30-March-14, 19:59:19
Decompress the provided .rar archive with Winrar: http://www.rarlab.com/download.htm
Then flash the desired file with Nvflash for dos: http://www.guru3d.com/files_details/nvflash_download.html
To do so rename the desired file to .rom and create a dos bootstick (https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=165175.0)
Put nvflash and the vbios file on it and boot from the stick. Then type nvflash -4 -5 -6 gop.rom (if renamed vbios that way) and hit enter. Confirm the questions and let the tool flash.

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Now is fine.Thank you again.

APS for MSI N580GTX Lightning

Please help me with APS utility! How to make it to turn the Auto PWM Switch on automatically when it launches?
I'm just sick and tired of turning this PWM Switch on by my self every time OS starts.

Ask msi here: http://support.msi.com
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How to flash MSI 6970 Lightning

Hi,
I recently contacted msi support about a performance bios issue with my MSI 6970 lightning. They emailed me 3 files, an atiflash file, and atiflash application file, and the update bios.bin file. They also e-mailed me directions but they're in japanese. Can anyone clarify what I need to do in order to re-flash my MSI 6970 ATI Lightning card? THanks!

No the card runs @ 940mhz core clock, the issue I was having was when I set the card profile to performance from silent the display wouldn't work. They sent me the updated bios to fix this issue but the directions are in japanese and when I translated them via google I didn't understand what they were saying to do.
***EDIT After some google research I think I have the basic idea... please let me know if i'm correct.
Step 1: Create a bootable MS-DOS Drive(Either CD or USB)
Step 2: Unzip the ATI Flash files and updated bios to the drive
Step 3: Reboot, go to bios, set the MS DOS drive to boot priority 1
Step 4: In DOS command type "atiflash -p 0 biosname.rom" In my case it would "atiflash -p 0 TV237MS.102"
The bios update they sent me ends with .102 instead of .rom.. that an issue?

GPO/UEFI vBIOS Request for MSI N770

Hello,
I would like the GOP bios version for my MSI N770 TF 2GD5
Serial Number is: 602-v282-21SB1307089773
VBIOS ROM IS HERE: http : //s000.tinyupload.com/?file_id=37739926958191065386
Thanks.

thank you so much!!!
I love MSI!!!!!!

Need help overclock the MSI N580GTX Lightning Xtreme Edition !

I want to overclock this card MSI N580GTX Lightning Xtreme Edition (MSI N580GTX Lightning Xtreme Edition GeForce GTX 580 (Fermi) 3072 MB 384-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card), but I don't know how far I can get. Can you help me overclock this to get a maximum performing? and how can I do that? can you guide me?
what is temperature should be consider over heat and might damage card?
After overclock, can I keep that always in 3-5 days without shutdown computer?
Here is default Corelock 832, Shaderlock: 1664, memory clock 2100
Also, when I click the "K" to show MSI Kombustor: I see Core: 416, and GPU Throttling -416Mhz. What is happening? is that graphic card has problem? it doesn't run fully 832mhz.
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Processor   Intel Core i7 2600K
Memory   Corsair Dominator Platinum 32GB (4x8GB) DDR3 1866 MHz (PC3 15000)
Video Card # 1   MSI N580GTX Lightning Xtreme Edition GeForce GTX 580 3072 MB
Hard Drive # 1   Corsair Force Series GT 120 GB
Hard Drive # 2   Western Digital Caviar Black 1 TB
Power Supply   Corsair HX1050W
Case   Corsair Graphite Series 600T
Monitor   Acer HN274H BMIIID 3D 27-Inch LED Monitor - Black
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Quote from: flobelix on 02-December-12, 01:03:03
Playing aan entire level of Crysis or Crysis2 with extreme settings is a very sure way to test. A multiplayer round of BF3 at max settings is also a good test.
If you got the max stable clockrates without overvolting and temps are fine. Go on adding voltage in small steps and agin try the highest max clockrate of any voltage step. That way you'll find the total max clockrate. At some point adding voltage will have no effect anymore and that is the highest clockrate. Remember that voltage unlike just higher clockrates will increase the temps massively.
Agreed with flobelix
Crysis 2 with ultra setting and set Vsync to Disabled is a very hard test in real life application, I don't use furmark or kombustor. To test stability first I run Vantage and 3DMark2011 then playing Crysis 2 about 2 - 3 hours every day for aweek or 2 weeks and if pass then I call it stable
I use GTX580 Lightning and at stock volt I can do 920/2200 with all little DIP switches turned ON/Enabled/Unlocked excluding Xtreme cooling LN2 DIP switch since I use normal air cooling and not LN2. If I let all DIP switches to their stock/OFF even at 900MHz I can't pass Vantage.
For safe daily OC better stay under 80c for your core temp and under 70c for your VRM & Memory temp also do not use beyond +200mv for your core voltage (+200mv is the max value)
Note : For 24/7 I use 980/2300 with +112mv/+40mv. VRM and memory temp are under 60c and Core temp is under 80c.

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