MSI Neo 2 865PE and aftermarket Northbridge Heatsinks

Is it possible to change the heatsink/fan on the northbridge on an MSI Neo 2 865PE mobo with an aftermarket passive heatsink and maintain the warranty? I'd like to eliminate the fan as a noise source and many other reputable mobo manufacturer's don't use a fan for the chipset. Though I was impressed by the Neo 2's performance on a recent Tom's Hardware mobo shootout, I'd go back to my original choice of an Asus P4P800 Deluxe if I couldn't eliminate the chipset fan.

I guess if you remove it and replace it with something else it voids the warrenty.
I would not care about that, as long as you take care whey you do it so the mobo dont get static damage there is no problem.
Most motherboards are easy to change the HS if you want to, I did this on a old MSI motherboard. I changed the HS from a small one to a Zallman ZM-NB47J and that was somthing like 70% larger than the original, that dropped the temp way down.
I have allso added cooling to other devices, stand alone dvd players etc. Just get cooling HS of different sorts and some "arctic silver adheasiv" and you are good to go :D

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NEO-2 865PE and SATA II HDD's

I am planning to buy a SATA II disc and replace one of my P-ATA discs with it, so I will have a combo of 1 SATA II disc and 1 P-ATA disc.
will this work or will i experience problems? i am also wondering if my MB will accept a SATA II disc without any problems since it's a bit old MB (does it matter which SATA II disc it is?). any help will be apreciated.

Quote from: NovJoe on 09-April-06, 17:06:45
SATA II HDDs are backward compatible to SATA I configuration so I think it should be alright.
You should be good as long as you can figure out the Bios setting ( should be easy)

MSI P965 Neo-F mobo and ASUS EAH4850/HTDI 512MB

Hi I have the MSI P965 neo-f motherboard and I am interested in buying a new graphic card for my computer. But I am concerned about compatibility issues of my motherboard with different graphics cards. Currently I am interested in buying the ASUS EAH4850/HTDI 512MB graphic. Does anybody knows if my motherboard will work with this card? Did someone had any issues.
Thanks in advance,
phanosp

Hi NovJoe,
Thanks for the reply. As far I can tell the card is backward compatible with PCI-E 1.0. I just wanted to ask if someone has actually used this card with my mobo to make sure that there are no compatibility issues.
Thanks,
phanosp

MSI P6N SLI-F Northbridge Heatsink dimensions?

I'm looking around for a nice quiet CPU heatsink/fan that will fit on the MSI P6N SLI-F motherboard.
there's been a couple that I've had to rule out because the Northbridge heatsink is too close to the CPU socket -- but can anyone tell me how tall the stock heatsink on the northbridge is, on this particular motherboard?
It's kind of hard to tell the scale on most of the motherboard pictures that are floating around. If anyone can tell me how many mm this heatsink rises above the motherboard, I'd much appreciate it!
(Suggestions for a quiet CPU fan to be used with a Core 2 Duo E6600 that will fit this motherboard are also very welcome. I'm not intending to overclock -- low noise is more important to me than arctic temperatures)

Quote from: somebob on 06-March-07, 14:28:59
Hm... Are you sure those actually fit on the (non-platinum) P6N?
Looking at pictures of the motherboard, a 92mm vertical fan looks like it might run into the northbridge heatsink... Can anyone else confirm that the collermaster (RR-PCH-S9U1-GP) fits this motherboard?
Yes, it does... images of it installed in the thread linked above.

MSI Neo Platinum and G.skill Ram

Was just wondering if anybody had this combination (MSI K8N Neo Platinum and G.skill Ram). I have the MSI Neo Platinum. I ordered the processor yesterday (3400 1Mb socket 754) and now I need some ram. I ran across this ram and saw that it had good timings. If anyone has this or has tried it please lemme know how it worked for you and what size sticks you got. Thanks
Karl

looked at the links you provided
specs seem ok nice range of speeds and can run at a nice low latency at pc3200 i.e 400mhz.
should also enable a nice o`clock at pc 4400 specs ie 3.4.4.8 ie higher fsb etc.
than pc 3200 ram
you should be able to run it at fairly low latencies and fairly high fsb sort of half way between the 2.
might well be worth a try you might have found something good there. but then again you wont know till you try it..
contact the reseller and see if you can rma it if it wont run
then you got some comeback if it aint compatable..
keep us informed

Neo 2 865PE Setup Options-Opinions Wanted

Hi, I finally got my new PC set up and I have some setup questions I'd like to get some opinions on:
1) My Hard drive is an ATA133 from Maxtor. Is it better for me to use the IDE1 slot or the Promise IDE3 slot? If I use the IDE3 slot, I will be able to run all of my IDE using peripherals as masters and I wont have to slave anything.
2) Sound- Is the onboard sound better then a Creative Labs Soundblaster Live card?
3) Bios Settings....what are the best performance settings I should use considering the following hardware:
- MSI Neo 2 FISR 865PE Motherboar
- 2.6GHZ 800FSB P4 CPU
- two 256MB Giel 533MHZ PC4000 RAM (512MB total)
- Gainward Ti4200 G4 128 MB "golden sample" video card.
I read in Toms Hardware in this article that I should be able to Overclock the BUS to 900 and perhaps 1000 with a setup like the one I have...the only major difference is that I got 512MB of RAM where in the article he uses 1000 MB of RAM.
http://www.tomshardware.com/motherboard/20030812/index.html
Any comments or suggestions are appreciated.

There'll be no difference of ATA100 and ATA133, the speed is not easy or almost impossible to be detected on daily usage.
I'm pretty happy with my NEO2's onboard AC97' chip, it delivers good quality sound for average users like me, regardless in terms of gaming, musics or movies. Unless you want very high quality sound likewise DTS, THX or doing music ripping, then you may need a better sound card like Audigy 2.
Your setup is ok, but be very careful with your RAMs as the NEOs are not yet very stable at support RAMs of more than 400MHz in speed, during the setups, if you're encountering instabilities, I'll recommend you to lower your RAMs speed to 400MHz and lower all latencies and increase the RAMs Voltage to 2.7v, set AGP/PCI Freq to 67.01/33.50Mhz.
All the Best... :D!!!

MSI NEO 3 P45 PROBLEM

Hi guys,
I have an MSI NEO 3 P45 with a Q6600, geforce 8800 gtx, and 4 gigs of OCZ ram which can run up to 1066MHZ. My southbridge is on auto, northbridge is on 1,2 VOlt and FSB voltage is at 1,3. My cpu voltage is at 1,46 voltage and my cpu is overclocked to 3 ghz.
Sometimes when i overclock my cpu, it works on the first boot perfectly but then i have problems in booting and it says that it cannot read my harddrive. THen i have to reset the cmos and start again. it is very annoying. do you guys think that the northbridge is damaged?

I agree with loonym,1.46 seems way too high for only 3ghz on a Q6600...Ive never overclocked a quad yet but i think 3ghz is easily obtained with stock volts (or a very small increase in volts)
I also agree that there is no way you damaged your NB (at least the chances are extremely little)
Ive done a google search for the PSU you listed and came back with this .....(Voltage max +5V-30A...+12 V1/V2-16A/16A....+12 V3/V4 16A/16A)
if this is your PSU than it says your +12v rails are @ only 16amps (this is extremely low for just running your system nevermind overclocking)
you need to get a new PSU ASAP if you want to overclock...If I was you I would get a new PSU ASAP regardless and get something that's a single rail PSU with a +12v rail above 30amps...the corsair vx/tx are great choices and we have seen many many people switch to these in the last year( not a single complaint yet )
regardless of the PSU I would definitely remove your overclock and start again.....how did you come to this overclock?....did you do it correctly by slowly raising FSB while running stability tests? or did you just crank it up to 3ghz and throttle it with volts till it booted?
I'm positive that your overclock is unstable...and this is the heart of all problems
another question: what kind of cooling do you have?

NF750-G55 - Need help choosing aftermarket CPU heatsink

I am running a Phenom II 965 CPU and the factory heatsink/fan is no good. The fan is too loud. I noticed that the northbridge heatsink on this motherboard is REALLY close to the CPU heatsink bracket. Does anyone know which aftermarket CPU cooler will fit and will keep my X4 965 CPU cooler than the stock heatsink?
Thanks all.

I use Noctua NH-C12P, its 6 heatpipes hover right above the mosfet heatsink nicely (the long one behind the ports). It blows air down to the motherboard, cooling some components, give airflow to the memory slots, and the fins directs air towards the northbridge. It helps cool down the northbridge as well (which is normally very hot). I also put Thermalright HR-05/IFX on the northbridge for extra cooling effect. The thermalright is a bit tight fit, but it works. The fan that came with the Noctua is totally silent no audible sound at all. Everything cool and quiet. I used Scythe Katana before this and it already worked well but it did not help northbridge cooling.
Some problem with it is that it partially covers the memory slots close to the processor, and it requires specific mounting.

Just ordered MSI Neo Platinum 250GB from dabs.co.uk, got a few Q's...

Well, first post at my future forum seeing as i've just ordered an MSI Neo Platinum from dabs.co.uk (never usually order from there, was the only place it was listed). By the looks of things, it's not going to be out for a week or so (keeps saying 3-4 days on site) so I might as well ask a bit about it to whet my appetite. Sorry if this stuff has been asked before...
Is it very possible that MSI will release a BIOS update to go higher on the ole FSB than 300Mhz... say 350Mhz?
Also, is 2.85 the max voltage that can ever be given to us without a volt-mod... could a BIOS update theoretically offer more or is that the limit? and i'm planning on running 10*245 at least with my watercooling, and it's just not enough for high FSB with BH-5...
And lastly, i'm thinking of trying a few different types of memory with the thing in search of best performance, is it tru that the NF3 and A64 performs well with higher latency PC4000+ memory, and also using a 5:4 divider like P4's?
That'll do for the mo, hope someone can get me up to speed. Oh and one last thing, and ETA on when the board will be released to suppliers in the UK? I've got the CPU but no mobo... arrrghh! :D
Regards,
Rich.

Well, I haven't had to mess with memory timings at all. I've tried four different brands of memory and they've all worked. Kingmax MPXC22D, Kingston KVR400X64C25, Infineon PC3200, and one other - Samsung I think. Right now I'm running 2~512 sticks of double-banked Infineon. The Athlon64 3000+ is an awesome CPU. I thought my Barton 2500+ was fast. This makes that one seem ssssllllllooooowwwww. I've had my system up and running for a couple months now, with only a BIOS flash problem to talk about. It is a very stable, fast machine. Anyhow, I'm also waiting for the MSI K8N Neo Platinum and the Athlon 3400+ w/512Mb Cache (Newcastle), or the newer 3700+.

Msi video card n240gt and n9800gt problems with output HDMI

Hello to all
I have a problem I just bought a new Video card because I needed HDMI output. The previous card I have is a BFG Ge Force 8800GT 512 DDR2 running @ 1920x1080p 60Hz which works perfectly the only downside is it does not have HDMI out with 5.1. Now i installed the n240GT 512 DDR5 and tried watching BD ripped to the HDD and playing them back all i get now it jerking lagging bad also and have horizontal red and green lines scattered across the screen.Which i did not have with my 8800GT card thinking its a bad card so i bought another card from another dealer this time its a MSI N9800GT 1gig DDR3 and still the same problem.I Checked the resolution and its set to 1920x1080P refresh at 60Hz,i also changed the Hz to 24Hz and it cleaned up the lines but not all and picture still jerky picture. I have a MSI K9N NEO V3 Motherboard and all drivers updated current Bios. l used a DVI cable 40ft long with my Ge Force 8800GT and every thing worked fine, once I installed the new MSI Video cards N240gt and N9800GT I have the above problems and using a 50FT HDMI cable. I have a Samsung PN50A550 with 3 HDMI inputs 1 has my BluRay player hooked up with HDMI running at 1920x1080P at 60Hz and crystal clear picture no problems, input 2 has my HD Bell receiver running at same specs as input 1 no problems I tried the other HDMI inputs from the Samsung TV from the HDMI out from the card same thing. It has to be the cards that can`t support the TV what else can it be if not the MSI cards. Please respond ASAP Thanks Thumpalong

http://www.overclock.net/t/936561/psu-rating
You may want to borrow and test with another PSU.
We always recommend Corsair and Seasonic
I can't find anything on Topower other than that opinion piece of linked... getting frustrated. Most of the time I can find detailed info on most psu's not this time, so best to borrow and test.
Assuming of course that the older VGA's worked fine.

MSI Neo-FIS2R build questions! & SATA RAID questions!

This is going to sound like a stupid question. And I'm not even sure that I know what I am asking.
I've built two computers so far. One with an MSI K7N2G-L and another with an MSI K7N2G-ILSR. Both nForce2 motherboards with AMD processors.
Here's what I'm getting at... I'm planning on building a new machine with either the Abit IC7-G or the MSI Neo-FIS2R (both 875P boards obviously).
Now, when I built the two nForce2 boards it was really easy. I put all of the components together, turned on the machine, the bios auto enabled settings, I put the windows xp pro cd in the cd drive and formatted the hard drive for NTFS, I then installed the OS and booted the system! Then I intstalled the drivers fromt the MSI CD. Ran Live BIOS and flashed to the most current motherboard BIOS. SIMPLE! Everything worked fine.
Here's my question. For the 875P system will everything pretty much happen the same way? Or do I need to do additional things? One of my main concerns (especially if I go with the Abit IC7-G over the MSI) is flashing the bios. Do I need a floppy drive or something? I've never flashed a BIOS outside of the Live BIOS utility. I don't want to put a floppy drive in my system! What are my options here?
Not that I want to do it, but if I needed to (say with the Abit board) HOW DO I FLASH THE BIOS WITHOUT USING THE LIVE BIOS UTILTY?
Bottom line is, I'm building this system for someone else and I want it all to be a painless experience (especially if they are looking over my shoulder).
One final question. This may sound even more stupid than the first question. I'm purchasing SATA drives ONLY. I'm not purchasing any IDE drives. So, here's my question...Can I boot from a SATA drive? What if it's in RAID 0? From the posts in the forums it appears that the SATA and RAID on these 875P motherboards either doesn't work or isn't very reliable (may potentially lose data). IS THIS AT ALL TRUE?! I'm stupid when it comes to RAID and SATA. Any help in this department would be appreciated.
Thanks.

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Originally posted by ZippyGaloo
1. If I only install one SATA drive I have to set it up as a RAID anyway right? Wrong?
2. If I install two SATA drives I have to set it up as a RAID as well right? Wrong?
3. If I install two SATA drives and set up a RAID
(either 0 or 1) which drive does the OS go on?
I have never built a raid array (as yet) and have never owned a SATA disk (as yet), but from what I have read...
RAID is a method of connecting several disks together so they perform as a single disk. That means, in response to your points above:
1) If you install only one drive (SATA or not), it will not be set up as RAID.
2) If you install two SATA drives, you have the option of using them as two individual drives OR setting them up in a RAID 0 or 1 configuration.
3) Ok, RAID 0 is known as "striping" - this method makes two disks look like one big disk, that works twice as fast as the individual drives. Every time the PC writes data to the drive, it sends the first bit of data to drive 1, the second to drive 2, then drive 1 again etc etc. This speeds up the disk read/write time, as the two disks can both work simultaneously. To the OS though, the two drives appear as one. The OS will be spread across both disks - it needs both of them connected to run, take either disk out and you'll be left with half an OS (that obviously won't work)
With RAID 1 (known as "mirroring"), you still use two disks. You will only have a useable capacity of the smallest disk however (using two 40gb drives only gives you a total of 40gb of space. with RAID 0, two 40gb disks will make one big one - nearly 80gb large {I think the RAID system itself uses a bit of space}). The advantage with mirroring, is the second disk holds an exact copy of the first. If one disk goes bang, you have a duplicate copy on the second - so, to answer your point above, the OS will reside on both disks.
To summarize, RAID 0 is good for increasing speed; RAID 1 is good for increasing protection of your data as you have two copies incase a drive gives up. To get the best of both worlds you need RAID 0+1 (this method needs 4 disks though, 2 striped - then 2 mirroring the striped).
There is a lot to RAID - just search the net for some manuals if you're interested, hope this gives you an idea though (providing I've got it right!)

K8T NEO FSR problems and questions.

I read this in an article on http://www.hardware.no:
"MSI is one of the companies that offer free upgrade to a new motherboard with better
specifications, if you have bought 915P Neo2 Platinum, 915P Combo-FR or 915G Combo FR
in the period of time between 21st and 27th june."
Late in june, I bought myself MSI K8T Neo-FSR motherboard, and an Athlon 64 3200+2.2GHz.
When I run "Core Center", the program shows that my CPU idle temp is 60 Celsius and my
sys temp is 36 degrees, which is COMPLETELY wrong?!?!.
This is very weird, because I have a nice computer case with 5 fans that blow out all
the warm air inside. When I play games, the CPU goes up to 65 degrees and my computer
restarts. This is VERY annoying. How do you turn this off in BIOS settings?
I'm quite frustrated with the thought that my CPU temp. shows 60-70 Celsius.
I have read tons of other forums and I have found out that it's not only me that experience
this problem. I seriously hope that you will fix this bug ASAP.
Does this offer also apply to K8T NEO-FSR? Can I get a free upgrade?
If I don't get my problems fixed, I will take further actions.
My System specifications:
MSI K8T NEO-FSR, Athlon 64 3200+2.2GHz, Asus Geforce 4 Ti 4400, TwinMOS 1024 DDR3200 RAM, Western digital 80+120+80 GB 7200 RPM, Chieftec BX Tower BX-03SL-SL-SL P4 / AMD, 2x papst 120mm fans, 2x 80mm papst fans, 1 fan in the door of the computer case.

I never heard MSI was doing such an offer...
Anyway, you need the latest BIOS, that solves the temps reading thing, this happens because AMD changed the CPU a bit.
It's not getting that hot, it's just a reading failure.
A BIOS flash should solve it.

Msi neo & 3700 clawhammer maddness

Before i go into a long tirate, can anyone tell me if the 3700 claw requires ecc memory, memory faster than 3200 (corsair 3200 tccd 428) 2.5-3-3-11.Why when i oc to 2700 my bandwith drops from 3500 to 2700. Stability is gone running a bench yet mem test is stable, running any bench results in bsod. T1 or t2 means chit, timings has no endearing qualities, . I can lower the muti and clock the fsb to 240 memtest stable, boot into windows and corruption all over no benching allowed.Or up the multi and set the fsb to 220 and still the same . memtest stable yet corruption all over. Psu 485 noisetaker 33 amps 12v, Msi neo, Corsair 3200c2 xms c2 tccd 428. Last but not least my 6800 gt wil no longer overclock to 425/1160 and using the mbm5 prog all the rails are rock solid no variation at all. Is this the mem controller da cheating bitch (ohh idle is 32c load 45c & no sata just plain old ide)

You're probably right it's the ram controller, especially if you're running 4 banks which means you're up to the supported limit @ stock speeds.
If you want to go into unsupported territory you want to up the ram voltage a bit and maybe drop the latency a notch (down to CAS 3.0) and I wouldn't want to oc the ram so yes faster would be better but it's not required and ecc is certainly not required.

Need help with k8t neo ms-6702 and cpu compatiblility question.

I have a msi k8t neo motherboard socket 754 ms-6702 bios version 2.2 with a athlon 64 2800+ in my computer. I just bought a AMD Athlon 64 3700+ CPU Socket 754 .1MB cache. When i install it, my power goes on and i get no activity. Im wondering if i got a bad cpu off ebay or my bios isnt current enough ( i used msi live updating software and its currently at v 2.2) or does my motherboard not support this high of a cpu? Im not very computer literate. Thanks for any help and info. If i need to update my bios, i downloaded version 7.1 but i dont know how to flash it, can somone give me the steps

I had a bad experience with a 3700 bought on e bay ,turned out to be an engineering sample ."special m/b bios reqd" in my case I did get a boot and the engineering cmos message. genuine 3700 754's are quite rare and fetch premium prices.

MSI Neo Platinum questions

Hi I am new here
Here is the stuff i got
MSI Neo Platinum
Athlon 64 3200 (clawhammer) CG
Zalman CNPS7000A ALCU
corsair xms 3200 1gb
maxtor sata diamondmax9
My zalman came in a retail box but, the backplate was not included, so i went ahead and installed it on the MSIs backplate. It seemed like a good fit and sits well now. When i powered the computer the CPU temp was showing about 64C. I wasnt too worried and went ahead and updated the BIOS to v 1.2. So now the temp is around 45C. Is this a good temp for A64?
Also another problem that i sometimes having is that when i power down the computer and then power it back on it just hangs in bios (that was happening in both 1.1 and 1.2 bioses) It where it says Identifying devices... or something like that. But this only happenes sometimes, and i can ctrl alt del to restart computer and it boots all fine. What I am going to do is connect those LEDs and see what they show when that happens. But for now anyone heard or had something like this happen ?
But other than these 2 things right now everything runs smothly, all benchmarks work well and system is stable.

ok man this whole thing really got me interested how come i fitted that thing on....
so i looked through zalman instructions i got, the backplate is not even part of the contents. And then it hit me, I got the Zalman CNPS7000 ALCU not Zalman CNPS7000A ALCU "A" after 7000 is the difference. Quick visit to http://www.zalmanusa.com resulted in .... the A version supports more sockets, but overall they are the same thing, thats why mine didnt come with a backplate. http://www.zalmanusa.com/usa/product/view.asp?idx=41&code=005009
now how come it fit and 7000A needs its own backplate to fit is interesting as they look identical.
to answer ur question SAB i just used the 2 nipples that came with my zalman. Stays on pretty solid.

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