MSI NEO load time

I made a post about this in the past but no one seemed interested. A few replies this time would be cool.
Anyways I thought it would be interesting to see other peoples start-up load times, from pressing the power button to ready on desktop.
I have tweaked my computer to the max by deleting services and registry tweaks. I have not overclocked. I am running at stock speeds. Everything is loaded in 18 secs.
I think it would be very interesting to see if any of this extra tweaking has really paid off, so please time your start-up just once and post it here. I dont know anyone else with a NEO for a comparison. And I unfortunately did not time it before I made all the changes. Although I did add 512mb of more memory and this had no effect on the start-up time.

No need to apologize , i just think there are more extensive ways
for you to compare with others than boot .
Hehe my pc is on 24/7 anyway , so if it boots in 20 or 60 seconds don't matter for me.
Tested with bootvis , and it took 21 seconds as the lowest time for xp32bits to load from raid-0.
(thats not included the "delays in bios pre post time")
Raid-0 is fast reading and writing to , but you get the buildt in raid bios
in the motherboard that posts also and checks/initailizee the array .
And it's waiting some seconds to so you can press "F10" to enter it for
configuration/status etc.
XP64 bits Edition boots fast (perhaps cause it's not installed any sw there yet..) ,but can't use bootvis on it to measure it.
Btw this parallell 64bit OS installation was wasted earlier today when
i ordred bootvis to optimize the xp32bits installation (after all they share the same boot manager/ntloader) .
The seagate 120GB sata xp64 was/is installed to showed 420GB size in bios
after () . So i've had some hassle some hours installing it again hehe , as the
nvidia IDE/SATA/RAID drivers for win64 sucks .
For comparsion i think test with SuperPi for the CPU and other benchmarks
for cpu and drive-speed is better than comparing boot time .
Or PcPitstop that is a good resource for overall health test and will give a more balanced picture of pc comparsions in one measurement.
Here's my latest score there :
CPU 7512 , 751
Memory 9125 ,913
Video 555 ,555
Disk I/O 111 ,222
Internet 1008 ,100
Total Weighted Score 2531
http://www.pcpitstop.com/techexpress.asp?id=MFDPLWGEA9USB80E

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MSI Neo-FIS2R build questions! & SATA RAID questions!

This is going to sound like a stupid question. And I'm not even sure that I know what I am asking.
I've built two computers so far. One with an MSI K7N2G-L and another with an MSI K7N2G-ILSR. Both nForce2 motherboards with AMD processors.
Here's what I'm getting at... I'm planning on building a new machine with either the Abit IC7-G or the MSI Neo-FIS2R (both 875P boards obviously).
Now, when I built the two nForce2 boards it was really easy. I put all of the components together, turned on the machine, the bios auto enabled settings, I put the windows xp pro cd in the cd drive and formatted the hard drive for NTFS, I then installed the OS and booted the system! Then I intstalled the drivers fromt the MSI CD. Ran Live BIOS and flashed to the most current motherboard BIOS. SIMPLE! Everything worked fine.
Here's my question. For the 875P system will everything pretty much happen the same way? Or do I need to do additional things? One of my main concerns (especially if I go with the Abit IC7-G over the MSI) is flashing the bios. Do I need a floppy drive or something? I've never flashed a BIOS outside of the Live BIOS utility. I don't want to put a floppy drive in my system! What are my options here?
Not that I want to do it, but if I needed to (say with the Abit board) HOW DO I FLASH THE BIOS WITHOUT USING THE LIVE BIOS UTILTY?
Bottom line is, I'm building this system for someone else and I want it all to be a painless experience (especially if they are looking over my shoulder).
One final question. This may sound even more stupid than the first question. I'm purchasing SATA drives ONLY. I'm not purchasing any IDE drives. So, here's my question...Can I boot from a SATA drive? What if it's in RAID 0? From the posts in the forums it appears that the SATA and RAID on these 875P motherboards either doesn't work or isn't very reliable (may potentially lose data). IS THIS AT ALL TRUE?! I'm stupid when it comes to RAID and SATA. Any help in this department would be appreciated.
Thanks.

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Originally posted by ZippyGaloo
1. If I only install one SATA drive I have to set it up as a RAID anyway right? Wrong?
2. If I install two SATA drives I have to set it up as a RAID as well right? Wrong?
3. If I install two SATA drives and set up a RAID
(either 0 or 1) which drive does the OS go on?
I have never built a raid array (as yet) and have never owned a SATA disk (as yet), but from what I have read...
RAID is a method of connecting several disks together so they perform as a single disk. That means, in response to your points above:
1) If you install only one drive (SATA or not), it will not be set up as RAID.
2) If you install two SATA drives, you have the option of using them as two individual drives OR setting them up in a RAID 0 or 1 configuration.
3) Ok, RAID 0 is known as "striping" - this method makes two disks look like one big disk, that works twice as fast as the individual drives. Every time the PC writes data to the drive, it sends the first bit of data to drive 1, the second to drive 2, then drive 1 again etc etc. This speeds up the disk read/write time, as the two disks can both work simultaneously. To the OS though, the two drives appear as one. The OS will be spread across both disks - it needs both of them connected to run, take either disk out and you'll be left with half an OS (that obviously won't work)
With RAID 1 (known as "mirroring"), you still use two disks. You will only have a useable capacity of the smallest disk however (using two 40gb drives only gives you a total of 40gb of space. with RAID 0, two 40gb disks will make one big one - nearly 80gb large {I think the RAID system itself uses a bit of space}). The advantage with mirroring, is the second disk holds an exact copy of the first. If one disk goes bang, you have a duplicate copy on the second - so, to answer your point above, the OS will reside on both disks.
To summarize, RAID 0 is good for increasing speed; RAID 1 is good for increasing protection of your data as you have two copies incase a drive gives up. To get the best of both worlds you need RAID 0+1 (this method needs 4 disks though, 2 striped - then 2 mirroring the striped).
There is a lot to RAID - just search the net for some manuals if you're interested, hope this gives you an idea though (providing I've got it right!)

Msi neo & 3700 clawhammer maddness

Before i go into a long tirate, can anyone tell me if the 3700 claw requires ecc memory, memory faster than 3200 (corsair 3200 tccd 428) 2.5-3-3-11.Why when i oc to 2700 my bandwith drops from 3500 to 2700. Stability is gone running a bench yet mem test is stable, running any bench results in bsod. T1 or t2 means chit, timings has no endearing qualities, . I can lower the muti and clock the fsb to 240 memtest stable, boot into windows and corruption all over no benching allowed.Or up the multi and set the fsb to 220 and still the same . memtest stable yet corruption all over. Psu 485 noisetaker 33 amps 12v, Msi neo, Corsair 3200c2 xms c2 tccd 428. Last but not least my 6800 gt wil no longer overclock to 425/1160 and using the mbm5 prog all the rails are rock solid no variation at all. Is this the mem controller da cheating bitch (ohh idle is 32c load 45c & no sata just plain old ide)

You're probably right it's the ram controller, especially if you're running 4 banks which means you're up to the supported limit @ stock speeds.
If you want to go into unsupported territory you want to up the ram voltage a bit and maybe drop the latency a notch (down to CAS 3.0) and I wouldn't want to oc the ram so yes faster would be better but it's not required and ecc is certainly not required.

Long Windows XP loading time???

Hi, I have a very strange problem with my computer.
Whenever I turn my computer on after it has been off for a few hours, the Windows XP loading time is very long. It keeps loading for more than a minute at the Windows XP logo with the blue srolling bar and finally comes to the login screen. This only happens the first time after the computer has been off for a few hours. Once I'm in windows I can reboot several times without any problem, then the loading time is only 17 seconds counted from the second windows starts to load till the login screen. In other words cold boot takes very long to load but not warm boot. What can be the cause of this? I cant figure it out, please help me.
My system:
Pentium 4 Northwood 3.0GHz
MSI P-FISR 865PE
2 X 256MB Corsair Value RAM
Hitachi Deskstar 7k250 160GB SATA
ANTEC SONATA with 380W PSU
Gainward GeForce FX 5900 128MB
NEC 2500A Dvd-burner

How many programs have you got that are booting up while windows xp starts? If you have loads of programs enabled at the startup that can vastly slow your system.
When you are on the desktop. Click on Start Button
Click on Run. In the box type: msconfig. Click on OK.Click on startup, and just disable the programs that you don`t need, ie winrar, win media player, etc. Infact, give me a list of all the programs you have in the startup and we will take it from there.
Also, you might want to adjust your dram settings of your ram. I noticed when I changed my ram from generic ram to a brand name, ie in your case crucial, that it performed slowly, but when I adjusted the ram settings accordingly, my bootup speed increased and it boots up in roughly 25 seconds. You need to get to DRAM Timing in BIOS and manually set the timings first start with setting SPD off, then experiment with the timings.
I suggest that you do try to Relax those Timings..Try 3.0-3-3-8-8 or 2.5-3-4-8-8......You may also want to try uping the VDIMM Voltage a little more, try 2.75V or 2.8V.
Get back to me about point 1 and we will have a look.

Long bios load time with gtx970 - maybe need gpu bios update?

I just installed my gtx 970 and it all runs fine. However I get a very long bios load time on boot up. Normally it only takes a second or two with a single beep. With the 970 though I get the single beep and the bios load screen, but it sits at that screen for a long time, then another beep, waiting, eventually another beep, and after some more waiting windows will start to load.
My problem is that now I can also no longer get in to the bios. I have tried even plugging in a ps/2 keyboard to see if maybe that could get me in. The farthest I get after hitting delete to enter is I just end up at a black screen. My mobo has no onboard gpu output, so its not like its trying to go to a monitor I cant see.
So would any gpu bios updates fix this? I am currently at the latest bios for my board which updated it to a uefi bios.
cpu: i7-2600k (yes Im aware I will only have pcie2)
mobo: gigabyte z68 d3-b3
ram: 16gb
gpu: MSI gtx 970 Gaming (previous was an evga gtx 660)
SN:602-V316-050B1412042805

Quote from: lucianobessa on 02-January-15, 10:48:08
Under bios features, is there a option called boot mode select?
Try to switch to "legacy only", save and reboot.
Are you using HDMI connector? Try to use DVI.
Sorry for my english!
I dont remember seeing any boot mode select. As far as connections I am using all DVI for my monitors. I have also tried only having a single one connected in case there were issues with multiple monitors
Quote from: Svet on 02-January-15, 10:56:46
with those old boards, you need ME8 to works with modern cards
ask gigabyte support about it
Thanks Ill try emailing them. Is ME8 some other bios? Just never heard of it before
-edit
After reading up it looks like it was just a revision to allow ivy bridge devices, which happened a long long time ago on a bios update:
Support Intel 3rd generation 22nm E1 stepping CPU (Ivy bridge)
Improve power on issue
Update ME / CPU code
Unless theres something else Im missing about ME8

MSI NEO-FISR2 875 lockup issues

I've just built a new system on the MSI NEO FISR2 875P motherboard. Here are the specs:
2.8GHz Intel Pentium 4
2x512MB Kingston 434mhz HyperX modules
2x120GB Seagate SATA drives
1x200GB Western Digital drive
Plextor DVD-RW
Creative 6x DVD-ROM
SoundBlaster Audigy2 Platinum
ATI Radeon 9700 Pro
The system seems rock solid, until I run any kind of game, at which point the system will lock up within 10 minutes (usually much less) of play. I've tried the following:
Cooling: I have five case fans, a processor fan, a power supply fan, and a video card fan. This ATI card was in my last system as well (Athlon 1.4ghz, 512MB RAM), and would lock up only if the case was closed; I concluded that it was a heat problem. However, this lockup occurs no matter if the case is open or closed, and due to the case fan on the side, I imagine it's cooler if the case is closed anyway.
Disabling sound: I've disabled the Audigy2 in the hardware manager, and got the same problem.
Underclocking the video card: I underclocked the ATI basically as far as it would go; same problem.
Updating drivers: I have the latest BIOS (I guess I should consider myself lucky considering the amount of unsuccessful BIOS flashers in this forum), sound drivers, video drivers, DirectX (9.0a), chipset drivers, and HDD controller drivers.
I guess when I get home today I'm going to try swapping out the ATI in exchange for an old Geforce2 GTS. Even if it does "fix" the problem, though, I'm concerned that it may not be the video card; MSI's "stealth" overclocking whenever the system gets taxed might be stressing the AGP bus to the point where the ATI can't handle it and the Geforce2 can.
Is there something I'm missing? Any way to disable this ridiculous "technology" that MSI has implemented? Do you think I could convince them this is a reason for an RMA?
*sigh*
-Paul

Ah yes. Sorry I didn't mention that. It's an Antec TruePower 430W power supply.
It might also be worth mentioning that after one of the aforementioned game crashes:
- I'm pretty sure things crash back to the desktop, but the display is so corrupted that I cannot be sure; the system seems to respond somewhat to keyboard events.
- Most of the time, after the crash, if I press the ATX power switch, the system will shutdown properly (or as far as I can tell; the shutdown sound plays and the system turns off, but the display remains corrupted so I don't really know).
- After such a crash, when I power back on, the CMOS has been cleared.
- After such a crash, sometimes, the ICH5R fails to detect one or both SATA drives, but when ctrl-alt-deleted, everything's fine (I replaced both serial ATA and serial ATA power cables).
- After such a crash, sometimes, the system boots such that both monitors are displaying the same thing, and I have to manually select "Extend my windows desktop" onto the second monitor, change its resolution, and *reboot* (which is odd; I can change this without a reboot if the system did not just crash) before the settings are applied.
Any ideas appreciated.

BIOS problem? MSI Neo P35 F

Hi,
I need help regarding some problem.
My PC has the following specs:
Motherboard: MSI Neo P35 F
I replaced the old CPU (Intel Core 2 duo 2.13 Ghz, E6420) by a new one (Intel Quad Core Q9650).
From then, the pc didn't recognize the new CPU
so I updated the old BIOS with the latest version (2.1) according to recognize the new CPU.
Now the pc boots, recognizes the CPU, but BIOS does not have the AHCI options possible, and I always get a "no hard disk detected" kind of error.
I only have IDE available, not even RAID.
So I need the AHCI too, to get a good connection to my hard drive I read somewhere.
(so I need a modded bios for that I suppose, can I find that anywhere?)
Other problems to mention:
Each time I change something in BIOS, like time/date or boot sequence, and I save, he does not boot further...
Each time I want to reboot it, I have to remove battery in order to get him rebooted again. (it's new battery)
With some workaround (in GRUB, running a linux os), I can get the OS started, so the hard disk and OS still work fine. But when shutting down the computer, he doesn't boot the correct way, and have to remove battery again. So maybe the BIOS is corrupted, or the shutting down method is wrong?
What could be the problem? Could I solve it by a modded bios?

Quote from: brusselswafeltje on 16-December-14, 04:16:35
Consider this done !
But still have this blinking cursor after first boot screen.
Oki
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But still have this blinking cursor after first boot screen.
the purpose was to fix bios saving issue only!: [not other things]
Quote from: brusselswafeltje on 15-December-14, 23:24:05
Problems so far: BIOS does not seem to save changes (boot sequence).
Quote from: Svet on 15-December-14, 23:48:05
reflash BIOS again,
but with >>Use the MSI HQ Forum USB flasher<<
should fix unable to save bios settings issue
about this:
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When booting, after the bios screen I get a black screen with blinking cursor. And then I can't get any further.
I sometimes get an error message: "no hard drive detected".
i don't expect changes
go in BIOS Setup and check if your HDD(s) are detected
if yes, adjust boot priority and make 1st boot the one who contain your OS
reisntall OS if needs

MOVED: MSI Neo 2 platinum with San Diego or Venice

This topic has been moved to Overclockers & Modding Corner.
MSI Neo 2 platinum with San Diego or Venice

Here are my results with my Neo2/3000+ Venice:
I use different apps to OC in Windows after booting with safe settings that I know work. That way if I use an app and push to far, the PC will reset with safe BIOS settings. The key for getting more vcore is to not set the first setting at anything higher than 1.45v. Setting anything after that will only result in it reading as 1.45v - as in your example, where you are setting 1.55v+10% and it only reads 1.59v...That is the same as 1.45v+10%.
What you'll need to do is install Core Center. Once installed go to Start/All Programs/Start Up, and delete it from there. That will keep it from starting everytime you restart the PC, and only run when you click on the icon. Next, boot at the highest vcore you need to, or 1.45v+10% if you need all 1.59v. Once Windows has loaded open Core Center and use the voltage options there to bump it up slowly. Both my brother and I have Neo2's and I can get 1.725v, while he can get 1.78v to work, all on BIOS v1.A...Hope this helps, good luck.
Also, if you don't have them, programs like Core Center, the A64 Tweaker, and Clock Gen are very handy and work really well when OCing. Be careful and have fun!

MSI Neo 2 platinum with San Diego or Venice

Hey guys,
How do you guys get high clocks (2.8ghz +) using any of the bioses for MSI neo 2 platinum EXCEPT for 1.36b for Venice or san diego?.. For all the other bioses, the max vcore is 1.55V + 10%. But even at this limit, the vcore for me is only ~1.59V as detected by the bios, MBM, CPUZ and core center. So i dont know how to give my CPU more juice without using 1.36.. I dont want to use 1.36 because it doesnt support my memory controller and my computer is unstable. I want to use a newer bios that supports san diego's, but i also want high vcore to keep my computer stable at 2.9Ghz. I have used 2.9Ghz before using 1.36 bios but i need 1.4 + 15% vcore (CPUZ and MBM report 1.62V). This was stable using prime 95 for 24hours.... ne suggestions? thanks

Here are my results with my Neo2/3000+ Venice:
I use different apps to OC in Windows after booting with safe settings that I know work. That way if I use an app and push to far, the PC will reset with safe BIOS settings. The key for getting more vcore is to not set the first setting at anything higher than 1.45v. Setting anything after that will only result in it reading as 1.45v - as in your example, where you are setting 1.55v+10% and it only reads 1.59v...That is the same as 1.45v+10%.
What you'll need to do is install Core Center. Once installed go to Start/All Programs/Start Up, and delete it from there. That will keep it from starting everytime you restart the PC, and only run when you click on the icon. Next, boot at the highest vcore you need to, or 1.45v+10% if you need all 1.59v. Once Windows has loaded open Core Center and use the voltage options there to bump it up slowly. Both my brother and I have Neo2's and I can get 1.725v, while he can get 1.78v to work, all on BIOS v1.A...Hope this helps, good luck.
Also, if you don't have them, programs like Core Center, the A64 Tweaker, and Clock Gen are very handy and work really well when OCing. Be careful and have fun!

Just bought SATA2 250GB WD HD for MSI Neo Plat ver 1 (7030).

I just bought a SATA2 250GB Western Digital HD for my MSI Neo Plat ver 1 (7030).
I'm currenlty using the 1.7 BIOS.
I've always used IDE up to this point.
I haven't yet installed my new drive but I'm a little nervous.
Are there any gotchas waiting for me?
What I want to do is copy my partitions from my old IDE HD to my new SATA2 HD.
Something tells me that this is not going to go so smoothly - don't ask me why, it's gut feeling
I predict BSOD when I try to boot from my new HD.
Any advice from people who have done this using the MSI Neo Platinum 1 ?
Can you have both IDE and SATA drives connected at the same time so that I can do a partition copy?
I think that MSI Neo Plat 1 is only rated do SATA1 so I'm not sure how it'll behave with my SATA2 drive
I'm a pessimist by nature, however, my "gut" instints are normally correct

I don´t have the same MoBo as you, so there might be some differences which I´m not aware of, but basically you could install the Sata drive as new bootdrive with OS and keep the old Pata HDD as backup drive.
The Sata installation (not raid) is just like a Pata installation except for other cables and MoBo connectors/IF.
To avoid confusion, disconnect the power from the old HDD and just keep the new Sata drive as the only drive while formatting / installation OS.
You will only benefit native Sata1 performance, but that almost the same as Sata2 so no big deal ( only the theoretically performance is twice as good ).
I don´t think there´s no need to change any backward Sata1-2 jumpers on the WD drive, but if I´m wrong there should be such a jumper that limits the performance to Sata1 - You could check at WD website.
After you´ve reconnected the old HDD - Go into bios ( probably "Advanced" menu ) and set " HDD Boot drive" order ( or called simular ), check and set WD as bootdrive.( don´t mix up HDD boot order with the general Floppy/CD/HDD bootorder).
Now you still have all your files intact on the old HDD and if you want to, you could ofcourse transfer them to the new drive as well.
( You will need to reinstall some programs on the new HDD, that does not work anylonger on the old HDD, but all files are intact)

MSI Neo-FIS2R 875P + Thermaltake Xaser3 V2000a

Anyone have any issues when connecting the RESET connector from the Xaser3 V2000a case to the MSI Neo-FIS2R 875P Mobo? When I do the board will not even POST. Could it be a faulty plug on the case as I doubt its the Mobo?
Btw.. only OCed the processor to 233/466 at default Vcore resulting in 3.26Ghz. Will be going much higher as well as OCed the Ram.
Mind you.. curious why WinXP+SP1 only shows the Processor at 2.80Ghz and not the new speed (3.26Ghz)? SiSandra also shows this but when I use MSI's InfoView it shows at 3.26Ghz. Probably nothing to worry about.. just wondering..
System Specs:
o Intel Pentium4 2.8Ghz 800FSB (Oced to 3.26Ghz)
o Swiftech MCW4000/Sunon 50.6cfm Cooler/Fan
o MSI Intel 875P Neo-FIS2R Motherboard (v1.2 Bios)
o OCZ Enhanced Latency Dual-Channel Series 2x512MB PC3500 DDR 433MHz RAM
o Asus GF3 V8200 Pure 64mb (Oced to 235Mhz Core/520Mhz Memory) but acquiring Gainward FX/5900 Ultra 256mb AGP8x card soon!
o Tekram U3D U-160 SCSI Controller
o IBM 15K Rpm 18gb U-160 SCSI
o IBM 10K Rpm 9gb U-160 SCSI
o Creative Sound Blaster Value
o Thermaltake® Xaser III V2000A Aluminum ATX Case w/ Window
o Antec AN-TRUE550 ATX Power Supply True 550W
o WinXP + SP1 + Direct/X 9.0a

Hi, just helped a friend with his new Xaser case and also had a very difficult time getting it to boot. We discovered that the chasis intrusion switch wasn't fully engaging. Cleared cmos and everything worked after that. Don't know if this will help or not. Good luck, it's a great case.

I just updated my RAM and I keep getting a crash report. I have a 21.5 Inch mid 2010 imac. I also am experiencing slow load times and when I try to open Final Cut it says that quartz extreme is not compatible and that I have no VRAM even though I do.

I just updated my RAM (replaced the two 2 gig cards with two Corsair 8 gig cards) and I keep getting a crash report. I have a 21.5 Inch mid 2010 imac. I also am experiencing slow load times with Photoshop and when I try to open Final Cut it says that quartz extreme is not compatible and that I have no VRAM even though I do.
Here is the crash report:
Interval Since Last Panic Report: 5426204 sec
Panics Since Last Report:          2
Anonymous UUID:                    2DD57DDB-BB42-5614-395A-CA6225BDAFD9
Wed Mar 20 11:36:53 2013
panic(cpu 0 caller 0xffffff801aa43d8e): "a freed zone element has been modified in zone: maps"@/SourceCache/xnu/xnu-2050.18.24/osfmk/kern/zalloc.c:219
Backtrace (CPU 0), Frame : Return Address
0xffffff81eb0eb950 : 0xffffff801aa1d626
0xffffff81eb0eb9c0 : 0xffffff801aa43d8e
0xffffff81eb0eba00 : 0xffffff801aa435d2
0xffffff81eb0ebae0 : 0xffffff801aa663f7
0xffffff81eb0ebb20 : 0xffffff801aa67398
0xffffff81eb0ebc70 : 0xffffff801aa6887c
0xffffff81eb0ebd20 : 0xffffff801ad5b8fe
0xffffff81eb0ebf50 : 0xffffff801ade182a
0xffffff81eb0ebfb0 : 0xffffff801aaced33
BSD process name corresponding to current thread: launchd
Mac OS version:
Not yet set
Kernel version:
Darwin Kernel Version 12.2.0: Sat Aug 25 00:48:52 PDT 2012; root:xnu-2050.18.24~1/RELEASE_X86_64
Kernel UUID: 69A5853F-375A-3EF4-9247-478FD0247333
Kernel slide:     0x000000001a800000
Kernel text base: 0xffffff801aa00000
System model name: iMac11,2 (Mac-F2238AC8)
System uptime in nanoseconds: 1070542822
last loaded kext at 707348380: com.apple.driver.AppleIRController    320.15 (addr 0xffffff7f9c53e000, size 28672)
loaded kexts:
at.obdev.nke.LittleSnitch    3908
com.apple.driver.AppleIRController    320.15
com.apple.driver.AppleUSBCardReader    3.1.0
com.apple.driver.AppleFileSystemDriver    3.0.1
com.apple.AppleFSCompression.AppleFSCompressionTypeDataless    1.0.0d1
com.apple.AppleFSCompression.AppleFSCompressionTypeZlib    1.0.0d1
com.apple.BootCache    34
com.apple.iokit.SCSITaskUserClient    3.5.1
com.apple.driver.XsanFilter    404
com.apple.iokit.IOAHCIBlockStorage    2.2.2
com.apple.driver.AppleUSBHub    5.2.5
com.apple.driver.AppleFWOHCI    4.9.6
com.apple.driver.AirPort.Atheros40    600.70.23
com.apple.driver.AppleUSBEHCI    5.4.0
com.apple.driver.AppleAHCIPort    2.4.1
com.apple.iokit.AppleBCM5701Ethernet    3.2.5b3
com.apple.driver.AppleUSBUHCI    5.2.5
com.apple.driver.AppleEFINVRAM    1.6.1
com.apple.driver.AppleACPIButtons    1.6
com.apple.driver.AppleRTC    1.5
com.apple.driver.AppleHPET    1.7
com.apple.driver.AppleSMBIOS    1.9
com.apple.driver.AppleACPIEC    1.6
com.apple.driver.AppleAPIC    1.6
com.apple.driver.AppleIntelCPUPowerManagementClient    196.0.0
com.apple.nke.applicationfirewall    4.0.39
com.apple.security.quarantine    2
com.apple.driver.AppleIntelCPUPowerManagement    196.0.0
com.apple.iokit.IOUSBHIDDriver    5.2.5
com.apple.iokit.IOSCSIBlockCommandsDevice    3.5.1
com.apple.iokit.IOUSBMassStorageClass    3.5.0
com.apple.driver.AppleUSBMergeNub    5.2.5
com.apple.driver.AppleUSBComposite    5.2.5
com.apple.iokit.IOSCSIMultimediaCommandsDevice    3.5.1
com.apple.iokit.IOBDStorageFamily    1.7
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Model: iMac11,2, BootROM IM112.0057.B00, 2 processors, Intel Core i3, 3.2 GHz, 16 GB, SMC 1.64f5
Graphics: ATI Radeon HD 5670, ATI Radeon HD 5670, PCIe, 512 MB
Memory Module: BANK 0/DIMM1, 8 GB, DDR3, 1333 MHz, 0x029E, 0x434D5341384758334D314131333333433920
Memory Module: BANK 1/DIMM1, 8 GB, DDR3, 1333 MHz, 0x029E, 0x434D5341384758334D314131333333433920
AirPort: spairport_wireless_card_type_airport_extreme (0x168C, 0x8F), Atheros 9280: 4.0.70.23-P2P
Bluetooth: Version 4.0.9f33 10885, 2 service, 18 devices, 0 incoming serial ports
Network Service: AirPort, AirPort, en1
Serial ATA Device: ST31000528AS, 1 TB
Serial ATA Device: HL-DT-STDVDRW GA32N
USB Device: hub_device, 0x0424 (SMSC), 0x2514, 0xfd100000 / 2
USB Device: IR Receiver, apple_vendor_id, 0x8242, 0xfd120000 / 4
USB Device: Built-in iSight, apple_vendor_id, 0x8502, 0xfd110000 / 3
USB Device: hub_device, 0x0424 (SMSC), 0x2514, 0xfa100000 / 2
USB Device: BRCM2046 Hub, 0x0a5c (Broadcom Corp.), 0x4500, 0xfa110000 / 4
USB Device: Bluetooth USB Host Controller, apple_vendor_id, 0x8215, 0xfa111000 / 6
USB Device: Internal Memory Card Reader, apple_vendor_id, 0x8403, 0xfa120000 / 3

There have been a few reports on here where Corsair RAM seems to have caused users a lot of grief with crashes.
The recommendation on here, mostly, is to only buy RAM from macsales.com or crucial.com as they guarantee their modules will work and offer a no quibble lifetime guarantee.
I'd put the original RAM back in, return the Corsair chips for a refund and re-order from one of those two companies.
http://eshop.macsales.com/shop/apple/memory/iMac
http://www.crucial.com/

Can a BIG form be served up one page at a time to avoid long load time?

Tricks I have read for optimizing the load time of large forms are not helping. Linearization causes the first page to render quickly, but you can't interact with the fields until the whole form finishes loading -- no help there. Is there a way to break the form into pages (without creating entirely separate forms) so the user can fill out a page, hit a Next Page button, fill out that page, etc.? Understood that this is an old school idea, but until Reader can download a 1+ MB form in less time than it takes an average user to get ticked off, old school might do the trick.
Alternatively, is there a way to construct a form so you can start interacting with it without having to wait for it all to load? This question comes from the (uninformed) assumption that maybe there are forward references that can't be satisfied until all the bits have come over the wire. If that's right, can a multipage form be architected so as to avoid this problem?

No that technology does not exist yet. There are form level events that need to have the entire document there before they can fire. Also you would have to keep track of where you are so that would mean some sort of session information for each user.

Iceland site - load times ok?

Here is a site from our trip to Iceland. Are the image and movie load times ok?
http://web.mac.com/volination/iWeb/
Of course, any design suggestions welcome. Thanks.
PB G4 1.67 Mac OS X (10.4.2)

Thanks.
TomBud, I know the corners look bad on a few shots. Believe me, I was kicking myself when I looked at the video for not being more careful. I tried putting in a matte in the corners, like little triangle pieces, but I think it detracted from the video more than the blemishes.

Slow BIOS load times

Hello, I own a T420i and have been experiencing very slow load times on startup. The "ThinkPad" BIOS screen stays active for roughly 5-10min before continuing like normal. Once operational the computer works fine other then an occasional freeze up (which becomes extremely annoying with a boot time of 10 min).
Thanks for any suggestions.

Hi Epitome, welcome to the forums,
do you have any external devices, especiall USB storage, attached to the system when booting? If so please detach them to see if you experience the same problem.
If the system boots normally please exclude the USB devices from the boot order in BIOS; the system may be scanning them for boot information before moving on to start from the main hard drive.
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