MSI Neo2-FIR P35 failed...How do I retain my RAID 0 setup?

Hello everyone!
Just a few days ago I turned my PC on, left the room, came back, and found my 'MSI Neo2-FIR P35' dead
Back in 2008, I thought it would be cool to setup my two Samsung 320GB Spinpoint HDs as a RAID 0. I remember when I was piloting my RAID, all data was wiped after I attached it to a different motherboard.
I read that the RAID can be retained if you use a motherboard with the identical 'RAID controllers'. But honestly, I haven't seen any details about the controllers to compare motherboards.
I want to save the data I currently have!
1) Will the RAID, and thus the data, be recognized if I use another MSI Neo2-P35 motherboard? If so, will the OS boot as if nothing ever happened?
2) Is it possible to attach the RAID to any newer MSI motherboards?
3) Does someone have any other advice on how to save my HDs?
Hope someone can help!

Hi Svet,
Thank you for your reply!
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yes it should
Ok that's good to know! I found the same mobo yesterday, but I just learned that it was sold to someone else
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place them in another board who use the same raid controller
So, in case I can't find another MSI neo2-FR/FIR P35...How do I know which RAID controller a motherboard has?
What will I be looking for?
"4 SATAII with 2 eSATA ports with transfer rate up to 3Gb/s"? OR "Serial ATA RAID 0/1/5/10"? The latter seems very generic...
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is it confirmed that the board and not something else
Well To be very honest, I haven't placed my CPU in another PC because I don't know anyone with a 775 socket. So it hasn't been confirmed yet.
But, when i first built my PC I had some DOA parts. This MSI mobo has a smart way of showing what the problem is in case it can't boot through LED-light combinations, but none of these lights are shown... When I connect the power-supply, I do see a RED standby light, even though I think it used to be GREEN . And when I press the power-button nothing happens... occasionally I see the blue LED light of my GPU blink.. but nothing else happens.
My mobo specs:
• Intel® ICH9R Chipset
- Hi-Speed USB (USB2.0) controller, 480Mb/sec, up to 12 ports.
- 4 SATAII with 2 eSATA ports with transfer rate up to 3Gb/s.
- PCI Master v2.3, I/O APIC.
- ACPI 2.0 compliant.
- Serial ATA RAID 0/1/5/10.
- Integrated AHCI controller.

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When i check the memory with CPU-Zv1.44 the memory only goes with the frequencys of
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https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=116721.0
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