MSI Neo2 FISR2 and dynamic overclocking

Last question I think.. With the bios update i did, in the bios there is the Dynamic Overclocking option. Under this there are several settings IE.
Soldier
corporal
general
(there are like 5 options or so but I dont remember them all.. they're all military position names though)
what do these mean and wahts the difference? is it jus the degree to which the dynamic overclock will produce?

Hi Asphix,
Each are D.O.T functions for o/cing, choose the lowest for normal rate and the highest level for real big o/cing... I supposed... Maybe you should look into you manual for more info...
All the Best... :D!!!

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Fastest overclock w MSI Neo2 Digital and AMD64 3000+ with OCZ 512 x 2 premier?

I was looking at a faster CPU and can't be bothered as they are costly and power hungry. I am looking at upgrading my platform with either of an Intel E8500 or the equivalent AMD cpu with an onboard video motherboard with HDMI...
but, for now, since I can't afford to upgrade at the moment, I was wondering if I could safely up my CPU to 2.4 GHZ or less. I have read people going to 2.4+ GHZ so I figure I could try going to 2.2, 2.3 or 2.4 GHZ. The CPU is literally worth next to nothing, so it's worth a try. Any thoughts? If there are risks in overclocking close to the limits, I'll back it off to 2.2 or 2.3 GHZ, but, I should still see SOME improvement.
My Motherboard is an MSI Neo2 Platinum.
thanks,

You should give the full name of your MB in signature, I assume it's a K8N Neo2 Platinum. Same thing for vid card, GTS without number doesn't say much (example of mine: 9600 GT). It's possible as you said to get it to 2.4 but some systems will OC better than others so you just have to go for it and see what you come up with. Keep an eye on CPU temp when attempting any OC.
Read what you can about OCing it and then if any more questions or have any problems post back here and we'll help the best we can.

MSI Neo2 FR and ATI 4870

does anybody have a similar setup? i seem to be having problems getting my system to boot with a ATI 4870 in, i have tried everything. i even purchased a new PSU but i'm still getting the same result, has anybody came across a problem like this before with this board?
i dont really see why it would be causing a problem as my current 8000GT runs fine on the board :(
much thx

hi thx for the reply
as far as the board goes its a MSI Neo2 FR this is the one http://global.msi.com.tw/index.php?func=proddesc&maincat_no=1&cat2_no=170&prod_no=1261
when i try to boot with the HD4870 in i get and error and going by the lights on the board it would be a problem with the graphics interface, green, red, red, red, i replace the card with my old 8800GT and the system boots fine. i know theres nothing wrong with the ATI 4870 card as its been sent back to the place i bought it from and tested and seems to be fine :/
edit: i also have the latest bois which is v1.10

MOVED: Fastest overclock w MSI Neo2 Digital and AMD64 3000+ with OCZ 512 x 2 premier?

This topic has been moved to Overclockers & Modding Corner.
https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=123284.0

You should give the full name of your MB in signature, I assume it's a K8N Neo2 Platinum. Same thing for vid card, GTS without number doesn't say much (example of mine: 9600 GT). It's possible as you said to get it to 2.4 but some systems will OC better than others so you just have to go for it and see what you come up with. Keep an eye on CPU temp when attempting any OC.
Read what you can about OCing it and then if any more questions or have any problems post back here and we'll help the best we can.

MSI P35 Neo2-FR and E2180 Overclock

Has anyone had any luck with an overclock with the above kit?
I' ve managed to post at 266 FSB and x10 Multi.
After about 3 hours of gaming I got a blue screen however. Not sure if it was the temps or something else.
Anyone else with similar experience?

If you would really like some help you need to list your specs(see my sig for the info we need)
I ran a e2200 in a p35 neo-2-fr for awhile(basically the same chip except e2200 has a x11 multi) and had some pretty good success OCing it.However using anything over the x9 multi was very hard to get stable...Using x9 multi I was able to get a 24/7 stable OC @ 345x9(3105GHz) @ 1.3875v....x8 multi also gave me good success.
Keep in mind I use thermal electric water cooling and can get my coolant well below ambient temps so I never really run into a heat barrier until pushing the massive OCs.My load temps rarely pass 60c. Since you didnt list your temps I cannot say if thats your problem or not but I believe you can do much better.

MSI Neo2 865PE and SCSI Controller Question

Hi All,
Im new here so be easy on me
Anyways im currently building a new system P4 System based on the new 800FSB, i have all the parts ready, ie. CPU, DDR400 RAM, Case, Adaptec SCSI Controller, HDD etc etc, but believe it or not i havent purchased a motherboard yet. The reason being i want to get clarification that my setup will actually work with the motherboard before i go out and buy it. WHAT SETUP you ask, please read on
Now the reason im posting here is because from what i can see on the internet this is a really top notch board (best performer in the recent THG test) so naturally its one of the boards im considering.
Now to the my QUESTION: I want to use my SCSI drive connected to the Adaptec as the OS drive and boot from it. However my main concern is that the Neo2 865PE wont let me boot of the SCSI Hard Disk attached to the Adaptec SCSI 21960 controller. Ive been told that certain motherboards eg. ASUS wont detect a SCSI controller on boot up because it will only detect the onboard RAID controller as the SCSI controller, therefore not letting you use the SCSI disk at the boot device.
Can anyone ease my mind and tell me the MSI 865 Neo2 will let me do what i intend??? ie. Boot of SCSI disk.
Any response/comments is appreciated
Cheers

Hi Domino,
Thanyou for testing the setup out for me.....
When you tested it did you have your onboard Intel S-ATA RAID controller enabled? because i believe this is where the problem will eventuate, when you enable the m/b's ONBOARD RAID controllers.
Cheers

MSI p7n Platinum and E2160 Overclock

This is my first build and I'm trying to get my CPU overclocked to 3.0ghz.
I've read that the e2160 is capable of 3.0Ghz with stock cooling and voltages. I cannot get mine higher then 2.4 Ghz. I am new so haven't tried anything other then changing the FSB to 1066/1200/1333. 1066 Seems stable, but I could not get a boot with either 1200 or 1333. I tried raising the voltage 1 notch but still no boot at either of the higher speeds. I've read that lowering the multiplier may help, or increasing the voltage more may help, but I dont want to screw anything up so I thought I would come here for some advice before proceeding.
Ive disabled Spread Spectrum, EIST, I cannot find an option to disable C1E (maybe its the old version of EIST??) I'm not sure what other Bios settings need to be enabled or disabled.
The board never read my RAM correctly, I had to change the speeds and timing manually to get it to 1066, I copied someone elses settings to get it to 1125 (5-5-5-15 2t) as they claimed it to be Rock solid stable. Which appears to be correct, although I havent used anything except 4hours of COD4 maxxed out at 1440x900 to test it....(no issues). CPU-Z reads my timings at 533.4Mhz, FSB:DRAM 1:2, 5-5-5-15, tRc:22, 2t@ 2.10v(have no idea if that is fast but I dont think so). The SPD tab reads the memory as PC2-5300, but populates with a part number of OCZ2N10661G. Im not sure if this is a problem, but I thought Id put it out there, just in case.
I'm totally noob about the power supply, which is why I posted all the specs from the label in my sig. I realize it is probably worthless for a Q6600 with 2 8800GT 512 in SLI, but it came with my XION DAZL case and the price was the key to keeping my current system in the budget. I thought it would be good enough to run at least 1 8800 with an e2160 and I could upgrade later (when I finish my system) if need be. I may have not connected the PSU properly as I just matched up the plugs, and stuck the fans in line with the dvd drive, so I wouldnt have to connect anything to the plugs for the graphic card, except the graphics card itself. Do I need to change my connections, and will this power supply work with 8800GT's in SLI with a Q6600?

So to get 3.0Ghz?? 333x9 = 1333mhz in bios with my OCZ1066 platinum running at 667mhz.
I load default settings in bios, then disable EIST, DOT and spread spectrum (still cant find C1E) enable smartfan to (im guessing here) 45C and 85% fan?
I manually set the ram to 667 then select linked in bios, and take 50 mhz jumps from the CPU stock speed.
Test it for stability by booting to windows, run Prime 95? for 30 minutes, and then repeat until I hopefully hit the target speed.
If i run into stability problems then I raise VTT voltage 1-2 notches and test, Then NB 1 notch and test, Then mem voltage 1-2 notches and test. If still unstable then Im at a wall/hole and should set voltages to last known stable voltages and jump 10 mhz at a time to see if it gets stable at higher speeds?? When I max out then I can tighten up my ram timings and try to lower voltages to reduce heat and increase performance. CPU-Z SPD tab reads JEDEC#3 @ 333mhz 5-5-5-19 @1.8v, is this the timings I need to start with for that setup?
I need to watch my core temps during all of this, Im unsure of what my max temps are with this CPU, there are 2 E2160's listed on intel's sight. CPU-Z says I have the M0 version (knowing my luck this is the inferior one) Intel lists max temps at 73c and 61C Im not sure which is mine, but no smoke came out at 65C under COD4 load, although it was only there about 5 minutes before I noticed and backed it down.
What I need to know:
What else if anything needs to be enabled/disabled in bios ver. 1.1?
Do I manually set the ram in bios to 667 to attempt a 1:1 ratio at 3.0ghz with this hardware? (I have ram set at 1066 now with a CPU speed of 2700.)
What is a good target for smartfan?
Are 50 mhz jumps OK when overclocking?
What stability test should I run while overclocking and how long, before I increase my clock again?
How do I detect a hole vs a wall while overclocking?
When raising voltages is there an order that needs to be followed ex. CPU, Nb, mem to achieve stability?
What target temps should I look for with stock cooling on this CPU 40/60?
I realize I am asking a lot, that is why I posted what i thought was correct and really just need someone to look it over and make sure Im on the right track and point out any flaws in my thinking.

MSI NEO2 - F and Athlon 3000 64 Venice

MSI send to me a new beta bios and now Dual ram working fine , but now i have another problem ..(beta bios 903)
CPU benchmarks are very low , my A643000 is slower then athlon xp 2800 :/ i tested it in sisoft sandra 2005 ..
Any idea for help me
ps.sorry for my english :/

Well I'm in work right now and dont remember all bios seting , but cool and queit maybe is enable a try in home that settings and disable this,
Cpu V was in 1.4 in core center,memmory have settings Ddr400 , cl2.5 , 3 7 3 and voltage is 2.65 (2 x 512 kingston 3200 ) but memmory benchmark results are very good ...(temp cpu is 37'C)
HT is 800mhz and voltage for this is auto.
and AGP Freguency ?? what is this ? j have setting " sync with cpu" on..
but some others is 66 and 77 ..

Recent Conversation with MSI and Neo4 overclocking "thing"

I had a recent email transaction with MSI if anyone is interested. I tried my best to represent the group, and I know we all experience the problem a little bit different which is why it has been hard to explain and fix. I tried to give them the best info to duplicate the issue in the lab. It seems clear at this point that MSI still isn't duplicating the issue. They are using 166 Mem Clock Index, and the HT freq of 3x and still not understanding the issue, hopefully I have gave them a guide to duplicate what we have been trying to say. Yes I have explained this to MSI before but I really feel I am getting somewhere with my last 2 emails. Once we get them to duplicate the results then I think we will all have our solution shortly. Before anyone says anything negative, at least they aren't saying, oh that's an overclocking problem we don't deal with that. Also remember how long it has taken to get many people to see the issue, this isn't easy to understand so just stay cool, don't say negative sh-t if you reply and we'll see how this pans out. It was actully kind of hard since I am sitting in a hotel room 500 miles away from the motherboard but I was able to use modbin6 to view the BIOS and since I have done this about 7 zillion times I remember the settings LMAO. They have their Venice to 2750, not bad...
Hello MSI Engineer,
The information you requested. The data you sent shows a Venice running at 166 Memclock index value at HT at 3x, the goal is to run at 200 Memclock Index and HT at 4x. In order to duplicate this issue in the lab here is my recommendation. It MUST be tried with a CBBID Winchester RevD CPU and a Venice Rev E CPU and the Gskill memory you have in dual channel. The issue happens everytime with a CBBID Winchester and less often with Venice.
Starting with the Venice 3500+, Set the following in BIOS
[Memclock Index] 200
[CAS# latency (Tcl)] 3
[Min RAS active] 11
[RAS to CAS delay] 6
[Row Precharge] 6
[User config mode] manual
[bottom of 32 bit] (default)
[1T/2T] 1T
[Read Preamble] 6ns (default)
[Async Latency] 6ns (default)
[S/W mem hole] Disable (default)
[H/W mem hole] Disable (default)
[MTRR mapping] Continuous (default)
[High Performance] manual
[Agreessive timing] Disable
[Dynamic Overclocking] Disable
[Adjust CPU FSB Frequency] 200
[HT Frequncy] 4
[HT Width] 16 up 16 down
[CPU Spread] Disable
[SATA Spread] Disable
[PCI Spread] Disable
[PCIe Clock] 101
[SSE/SSE2] Enable
[CnQ] Disable
[CPU Ratio] 11x
[Adjust CPU VID] 1.45
[Extra CPU Voltage] your choice for stability
[Mem Volt] your choice for stability
[NF4 Volt] your choice for stability
Now boot into Windows. Using Clockgen, increase HTT to 250. This should be stable based on your screen shot and your RAM modules. Now having a CPU 2750Mhz, RAM at 250Mhz, and a HT of 4x250(1000). Test for stablity with Prime95 or other Stress Testing tool. Now we can say motherboard is stable at 2750Mhz CPU, 250Mhz RAM, and HT 4x250(1000). Now return to the BIOS at set the following
[Adjust CPU FSB Frequency] 250
This reults in a no POST condition for me and others. Now install the CBBID, except you will have to set a lower CPU max speed based on CBBID overclocking potential. In the BIOS, Return [Adjust CPU FSB frequency] to 200, Perhaps [CPU ratio] of 10x or 9x but a [Memory Clock Index] 200Mhz. Boot to Windows and use Clockgen to raise HTT to 250 again. Once you find a [CPU Ratio] that will have a STABLE overclock with a 250HTT. Return to the BIOS and set [Adjust CPU FSB Frequency] to 250. Try and POST. Try this experiment with the 3.1, 3.3, and 3.4 BIOS's. For the CBBID and the 3.1 BIOS you should be able to change the [HT Freq] to 3x, 2x or 1x and get a POST with [FSB Freq] 250, [Memclock Index] 200, and a known stable [CPU Ratio] you found in Windows. The 3.3, and 3.4 BIOS have made this work around not possible. Why does [HT Freq] 4x work in windows but not at POST time?
As a side note. The 1.3 BIOS for the 7125 works with the Venice, and the 1.4 and 1.5 do NOT. So somewhere between the 1.3 and 1.4 MSI created the issue on the Venice. Perhaps that is where you can find the answer and solution to the problem.
Here are some articles that describe the issue on a ECS and Chaintech board that were remidied by a BIOS update. So the problem is not uncommon and should be able to be fixed.
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/mainboards/display/chaintech-nforce4_6.html
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/mainboards/display/ecs-kn1-extreme_9.html
Here is some other users data of NF4 SLI and Ultra MSI Neo4's if you want to see some other BIOS settings.
https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=81364.0
Here is a screen shot of my Neo4 Plat SLI (MS-7100) 3.1 BIOS and CBBID Winchester(The Venice will NOT POST at all above [Adj CPU Freq] ~219-229 under any situation but is stable in Windows at HTT 250 with Clockgen). The system is stable and POST's when [HT Freq] is 3x, it will NOT at [HT freq] 4x which is stable in windows but won't POST.
http://home.comcast.net/~aicjofs/cbbidMSI2501.jpg
Here is another screenshot of the Asus A8N Plat SLI with all peripherals the same. Only changed the motherboard. This is POSTing at [HT Freq] 4x. This is just as a reference that the components do indeed POST with [Adjust FSB freq] 250, [Memclock Index] 200, and [HT Freq] 4x. This board will POST both my 3200+ Venice and Winchester CBBID at the settings described above.
http://home.comcast.net/~aicjofs/cbbid250asus1.jpg
The following are my BIOS settings that will create a non-POST condition, but the board is stable at these settings when ADJUSTED FROM WINDOWS.
[ADVANCED BIOS]
[Gate A20] Enable
[APIC] Enable
[MPS Table] 1.4
[Boot OS2] No
[ADVANCED CHIPSET]
[System BIOS Cacheable] Disabled
for newer BIOS
[SLI Brodcast apeture] Whatever default is.
[INTEGRATE PERIPHERALS]
[Onboard IDE 0 and 1] Enabled all channels in Auto
[IDE DMA] Enabled
[SATA 1,2,3,4] Enabled
[IDE PREFETCH] Enabled
[NVDA RAID] Enabled
[all IDE raid channels] Disabled
[all SATA raid channels] Enabled
[On Chip USB] 1.1-2.0
[USB KB/Storage] Disabled
[NVDA LAN] Enabled
[NVDA ROM] Disabled
[Onboard VIA 1394] Enabled
[Marvell Gigabit] Disabled
[Onboard Creative] Enabled
[SiI3132] Disabled
[FDC] Enable
[Serial Ports] Disabled
[Parallel Port] Disabled
[POWER MANAGMENT] all defaults
[PNP/PCI]
[Init display] PCIe
[Resources] Auto
[PCI Express Max Payload] 4096
[CELL MENU]
[Timing mode] manual
[Memclock index value(MHz)] 200
[CAS# latency (Tcl)] 3
[Min RAS active] 8
[RAS to CAS delay] 4
[Row Precharge] 4
[Row cycle time] Auto
[Row refresh] Auto
[Row to Row delay] Auto
[Write Recovery] Auto
[Write to Read] Auto changing this to known working value will lock system sometimes
[Read to Write] Auto changing this to known working value will lock system sometimes
[Refresh] Auto
[User config mode] manual
[bottom of 32 bit] whatever it defaults to
[1T/2T] 1T
[Read Preamble] 6ns
[Async Latency] 6ns Attempts to change this to 8ns will lock system
[S/W mem hole] Disable
[H/W mem hole] Disable
[MTRR mapping] Continuous
[High Performance] manual
[Agreessive timing] Disable
[Dynamic Overclocking] Disable
[Adjust CPU FSB Frequency] 250
[HT Frequncy] 4 (For 1000Mhz)
[HT Width] 16 up 16 down
[CPU Spread] Disable
[SATA Spread] Disable
[PCI Spread] Disable
[PCIe Clock] 101
[SSE/SSE2] Enable
[CnQ] Disable
[CPU Ratio] 10x
[Adjust CPU VID] 1.45
[Extra CPU Voltage] +9.9%
[Mem Volt] 2.7v
[NF4 Volt] 1.65v
BIOS Tested 3.0, 3.1, 3.2, 3.3, 3.4. I have not tested 3.51 but forum users are still not getting positive results
-------------- Original message --------------
Dear Aicjofs
This is MSI technical support engineer from Taiwan.
We receive some message from MSI LA office & Anandtech.com.
We are sorry for inconvinence experience when you try to Overclock MS-7100.
We hope to contact with you directly and help you to solve it.
Depends on related message from others, we know that you have several problem for MS-7100 overclocking.
According to your info at MSI Forum, Here is your system configuration:
Neo4 Plat SLI(MS-7100) 3.1 BIOS
3200+ Venice (8x313) @ 2500Mhz
Patriot PC4000 (200:133) 2.5-3-3-7
HT x3
Aopen 6800GT @ Ultra speed
AthenaPower 500W 3.3v - 26a 5v - 47a 12v - 28a
Could you give us more info about what changed item inside your BIOS?
[Memclock index value(MHz)]
[CAS# latency (Tcl)]
[Adjust CPU FSB Frequency]
[HT Frequncy]
[Adjust CPU VID]
[Extra CPU Voltage]¡Kor others
We try to Overclock MS-7100 with BIOS v3.2 and 3500+ (Venice core).
CPU ADA3500DAA4BW ABBWE made in Malaysia
Memory G-skill PC4400 512MB*2 (Dual Channel)
We only change some item inside BIOS as: (Based on Optimized defaults)
[Memclock index value (MHz)] à166
[CAS# latency (Tcl)] à 3
[Adjust CPU FSB Frequency] à250
[HT Frequncy] à3x
[Adjust CPU VID] à 1.450V
[Extra CPU Voltage] àOver VID 6.6%
We will try to find similar CPU as yours to test it.
If possible, please tell us the CPU OPN number like we listed. (ADA3500DAA4BW)
We also help to know any other info that you can provide.
If possible, please help to tell us more setting and system info.
Thanks!
Waiting for your responding.
Best Regards!
Technical Support Engineer
Technical Support Department
E-mail: msi.com.tw
[Post edited by Glenn]

Quote from: Indigian on 15-June-05, 19:41:43
Good news and good work guy's
On a side note to chakkasol....
are you using coolbits 1 or 2?
I heard that coolbits2 is the one for our later cards
Good question - coolbits 2. I happened to take a chance from this website and downloaded this file...ran it up against my antivirus and antispyware software and it looked clean. I simply ran the program and viola, coolbits functionality automatically added to the winxp registry. I cleaned out the msi DOT drivers first before I loaded this program. Even though I have tweaked on occasion the winxp registry to speed things up and make winxp shut down quicker, this was too complicated for me to do on my own.
The highest overclock with the MSIs DOT is 11% at 555/1100. My MSI card is actually very stable at 580/1160 for a 16% overclock. I have gotten it to 600/1200 but I usually run the coolbits stability program a few times and it has never failed at 580/1160. I am sure if I had a better cooling system than the stock fan it would probably go to 600/1200 or higher. At a 3DMark05 of 4133 (and much higher if I could get it stable at 600/1200, I would be bumping up against the stock speeds of the 6800s vid cards.
EDIT: Of course, if you download this coolbits 2 program you do so at your own risk...I take no responsibility for the download.
The coolbits download:
http://downloads.guru3d.com/download.php?det=815
The MSI 6600gt card that I purchased:
http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/ProductDetail.jsp?ProductCode=321916
btw, I have ordered more stuff from ZZF than newegg...they seem cheaper (but dont always have the stock of newegg) and the stuff gets here 1 day sooner usually (west coast to east coast USA).

Dynamic Overclocking in K8N Neo2 Platinium

Dynamic Overclocking even in newest 1.4 BIOS version is useless.
Even if i choose Private option (1% auto o/c) my system is hanging (restart needed ).
I know Dynamic Overclocking function is for n00b, i use manual o'c always but if MSI put it to the mobo function it should works

Quote
Originally posted by aduh
Dynamic Overclocking even in newest 1.4 BIOS version is useless.
Even if i choose Private option (1% auto o/c) my system is hanging (restart needed ).
I know Dynamic Overclocking function is for n00b, i use manual o'c always but if MSI put it to the mobo function it should works
p.s. i'v strong cooling system (5 fans) and 35 temp on CPU ..., i'v strong power supply - Antec NeoPower 480 W

[Other 865 Series] MSI 865PE Neo2-V and Dual Channel Mode Question

Hello, I have a quick question regarding dual channel mode with my current motherboard. I have an MSI 865PE Neo2-V and am wondering if it is possible to enable dual channel mode while having three RAM modules inserted in the motherboard.
For example, I currently have one 512MB PC3200 module in my computer. If I purchase another 512MB module and run them in dual channel mode, will it be possible to buy a 1GB module or another size module, and still have all three slots run in dual channel mode? Or is dual channel only operational on this motherboard if only two of the three slots are occupied?
Thanks.

Dual channel requires an even number of sticks.

These ATI cards 9500 Pro and 9700 Pro ok for MSI K8N Neo2 Platinum and winchester cpu? Compatible?

Looking at grabbing a used ATI 9500 Pro or used 9700 Pro AGP card for my MSI Neo2 Plat since I can't use my Matrox G400.
Any problems using either of the above cards? I don't play a huge amount of 3D games so I'm not going to grab a 9800 Pro or XT or 6600GT. A 9500 or 9700 Pro would allow me to play the newer games at reasonable resolutions. Just want to make sure they are compatible.
thanx

Ok guys, thanx for the feedback. I missed the 9500 Pro sale, so maybe its for the better. If I'm going to try a bit of 3D gaming, I may aswell get a little bit better card. So here is my question for you folks:
For my MSI K8N Neo2 and AMD64 3000+ system, I want a card that will have good 2D output and good DVD playback. I want to try some 3D games, but don't want to have the minimum. I was looking at used 9500 Pro's and the 9600 XT but I've come across a used 9700 Pro and a 9800 Pro and 9800 Pro with r360 core (almost a 9800XT). So if I get a 9700 Pro, what will I be able to play smoothly at what settings and what will I be unable to play. Ultimately, I may play mostly on my projector at 858 x 484, so maybe the cards don't matter too much. If I don't play 3D games much after a while, I'll probably downgrade, but I want to give it a try. I can't afford a new 9800 Pro/XT or 6600GT.
Used cards I'm deciding between. Have to act fast.
9700 Pro $170 CAD or 9800Pro $210 CAD or 9800 with r360 core $230. Price differences between the cards is as you see there.
thanx in advance for any feedback,

MSI P4M900M2-L and overclocking

hello,
i have a msi p4m900m2-l and a e2140.
when i want to overclock my processor by move up the fsb, my computer don't want to reboot and i must make a clear cmos to boot up the pc.
any of you have a idea to make my overclocking running well ?
ps:sorry for my bad english

Although this board has some overclocking functionality, it is not possible to tweak enough parameters to overclock the CPU by much. I have found that I can run my E2140 at 1800MHz, but I need to tell it that I have 533 RAM to make it work, or it's clocking the 667 RAM which I have too fast (along with some other components no doubt).
If you read this post, I wonder if you could tell me what value is displayed for 'CPU Temperature' in the BIOS health check screen? My system says that the CPU temp varies between -2 deg C and about 7 deg C so I would be interested to see if they all do that. I have the same motherboard and CPU as you.

MSI Neo2-FR Power (JFP1 and JFP2) connectors

Hi,
The MSI Neo2-FR manual on page 2-16 list the pin assignments for the front panel switches and LEDs.
Questions: Are the white wires considered the negative wires and the color ones considered the positive ones?
Does anyone know if the illustrations used on page 2-16 of the MSI Neo2-FR motherboard manual have any errors in them, such as, incorrect label of positive and negatives pins?

Quote from: Eagle Rock on 21-February-08, 07:36:50
Hi,
The MSI Neo2-FR manual on page 2-16 list the pin assignments for the front panel switches and LEDs.
Questions: Are the white wires considered the negative wires and the color ones considered the positive ones?
Does anyone know if the illustrations used on page 2-16 of the MSI Neo2-FR motherboard manual have any errors in them, such as, incorrect label of positive and negatives pins?
They forgot to give the polarity for the power led in the manual for JFP1 and JFP2. If you look very closely at the colored plastic around the pins on either connector the + pins are marked with a + in the plastic.
And as Del UK said normally white or black is negative and colors are positive.

Msi neo2 k8n 54g platium problem?

After i got my Gecube x800xt pe and installed it, when catalsyt 5.1 was out, i got these irretating problem's, When i set my memory to eggressive timing's and 1T C L=2.0 Trcd=4 tras=8 Trp= 4 my pc freezes, it's all under the cell menu,i do ofcourse turn off dynamic overclocking, still i get the freezes,and the message after reboot, vpu recovery, anyone know what the problem could be?
Seasonic super silent 460W
Amd 64Bit 3500+ 0.9 [idle38--Load 42]
Msi Neo2 54G K8N platium [Bios 1.5]
Gecube x800xt pe
Geill pc 4400 ultra dual
Sb Audigy 2 Zs
Asus Tv tuner
2*120Gb
2*160Gb
1*250Gb
1*300Gb
I tried to take everything out of the pc, so it just has what it takes to start op, i even tried Catalyst 4.10/4.11/5.1/5.2/5.3, and also other older motherboard driver's and newer beta's, i tried the pc in other pc's and it didnt do it there, then again hey were cheap motherboard's and didnt have all those memory feats as this motherboard. plz help me

bejon2000,
Good point bejon,
I re-read the article and this what it says: " ....If you remember, older Athlon 64 processors based on 130nm cores didn’t support 4 double-sided DDR400 SDRAM modules working at 400MHz frequency at all and reduced their frequency to 333MHz automatically. The today’s processors based on 90nm cores offer us a few better solutions. The D core revision also known as Winchester allows using four double-sided DDR400 memory DIMMs if the Command Rate timing is set to 2T."
From what you posted the Winnie D core CPU may need a little TLC and voltage boost. but it should run 4 X double sided 512 sticks at DDR 400 and 2T. Venice or later core may not need such TLC or voltage boost but still need manual selections in BIOS Cell menu.
Thanks for pointing this out,

MSI Neo2 FISR2 and dynamic overclocking

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