MSI Neo2 FX, AMD 939 RAM question

Hi to all,
I have an old Athlon 64 on the MSI Neo2 FX with the nvidia chipset.
According to the MB manual, I could install 4 DIMM (Double sided) and have a DDR333, Dual Channel.
But, in my case, I have 4 DIMMS (Double sided), which BIOS POST reports that runs at 200Mhz, not 333, in dual channel 128bit mode.
BIOS options, seems not to change and I would not like to change the FSB from 200 to 333.
Any ideas?

Why is it fine?,
Yes, your maths are OK. But:
http://www.msi.com/product/mb/K8N-Neo2-FX.html#?div=Detail
Look at the table of the details (it's the same as in my manual).
According to that table, my RAM configuration should not be 400Mhz, but 333Mhz.
And something else:
The DIMMS are 2 Kingston and 2 Corsair. All modules have the same click speeds and are double sided. So, should I enter them as:
Kingston (Green), Corsair (purple), Kingston (Green), Corsair (Purple), or as:
Kingston (Green), Kingston (Purple), Corsair(Green), Corsair (Purple)

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Why is it fine?,
Yes, your maths are OK. But:
http://www.msi.com/product/mb/K8N-Neo2-FX.html#?div=Detail
Look at the table of the details (it's the same as in my manual).
According to that table, my RAM configuration should not be 400Mhz, but 333Mhz.
And something else:
The DIMMS are 2 Kingston and 2 Corsair. All modules have the same click speeds and are double sided. So, should I enter them as:
Kingston (Green), Corsair (purple), Kingston (Green), Corsair (Purple), or as:
Kingston (Green), Kingston (Purple), Corsair(Green), Corsair (Purple)

MSI Neo2 865PE and SCSI Controller Question

Hi All,
Im new here so be easy on me
Anyways im currently building a new system P4 System based on the new 800FSB, i have all the parts ready, ie. CPU, DDR400 RAM, Case, Adaptec SCSI Controller, HDD etc etc, but believe it or not i havent purchased a motherboard yet. The reason being i want to get clarification that my setup will actually work with the motherboard before i go out and buy it. WHAT SETUP you ask, please read on
Now the reason im posting here is because from what i can see on the internet this is a really top notch board (best performer in the recent THG test) so naturally its one of the boards im considering.
Now to the my QUESTION: I want to use my SCSI drive connected to the Adaptec as the OS drive and boot from it. However my main concern is that the Neo2 865PE wont let me boot of the SCSI Hard Disk attached to the Adaptec SCSI 21960 controller. Ive been told that certain motherboards eg. ASUS wont detect a SCSI controller on boot up because it will only detect the onboard RAID controller as the SCSI controller, therefore not letting you use the SCSI disk at the boot device.
Can anyone ease my mind and tell me the MSI 865 Neo2 will let me do what i intend??? ie. Boot of SCSI disk.
Any response/comments is appreciated
Cheers

Hi Domino,
Thanyou for testing the setup out for me.....
When you tested it did you have your onboard Intel S-ATA RAID controller enabled? because i believe this is where the problem will eventuate, when you enable the m/b's ONBOARD RAID controllers.
Cheers

Msi 790GX-G65 and "EB" Ram question....

Hiya All,
Q: could it be that "OCZ DDR3 ram p3 1600 EB 2GK" won't work with a MSI 790GX-G65 mobo because of the "EB" (enhancend Bandwidth) ? ? ?
can't find anything on EB in the manual or on the net concerning the MSI 790GX-G65 mobo
System freezes randomly, sometimes during start up sometimes after an hour.
all temps are okay and nothing is OC-ed.
got ati 4870 gfx card.
550 W power suply.
cpu: AMD phenom2 x3 720 black edition
thanks to any one willing to look into this matter
Bassman404
p.s. asking this for a friend so hard to give more info than this atm

thanks for your quick reply
The PSU is a HKC USP5550
and forgot to mention that the ram is running on 1333 MHz not 1600MHz.(not trying to run it higher than 1333 MHz atm)
i'm wondering if the "enhancend bandwidth" could be the cause of the system freezing?
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MSI H67MA-E35-B3 & some ram questions

Hi, I'm still here!
I recently bought a MSI H67MA-E35-B3 to build a fanless miniPC for testing hardware (fans, ssd, sound card),
but I have some doubts about ram:
I know thant this mobo support two unbuffered DIMM of 1.5 Volt DDR3 1066/1333 DRAM, 16GB Max..
well, can I use a CORSAIR Vengeance WhitePC3-12800 (1600MHz) — 1.35V 8GB Dual Channel DDR3 Memory Kit (CML8GX3M2A1600C9W)?
that is; can the card bring down (during the star-up bios) the ram fron 1600Mhz to 1333Mhz which is the maximum rate allowable by MSI?
ddr3 must be unbufferd (not registered), but can they be ECC...is this correct?

Quote from: Bernhard on 03-September-11, 21:33:06
My suggestion is that you stick to standard 1,5V modules.
You can also ask MSI technical if the 1,35V modules are at all supported by the BIOS. >>How to contact MSI.<<
Check if your BIOS DRAM voltage range even allows setting a voltage of 1,35V.
Normally if the RAM SPD profiles are standard, the BIOS will default to 1333.
MSI H67MA-E35-B3 can support 1.35vram!!!
I try it with ddr3 g.skill 1333 eco 1.35vram (from my other 775 system with MSI P45 Diamond ), and they worked great!
Quote from: HU16E on 04-September-11, 02:30:27
Try not to confuse 'standard' with 'rating'. The Corsairs you have are 'rated' 1600, but most likely are overclocked, in this case undervolted, (undertimed for 1600 speed) 1333 chips. I checked the Corsair Website, & the RAM you have purchased does have SPD programming to default to DDR3 1333, 9 9 9 24. The difference is they have a 1.35v's. Again, Sandy Bridge is designed for DRAM V. 1.50v's + or - 0.075v's. That is why I recommended the other Corsair kit. I am pretty sure the RAM you currently have will properly default to the 1333 & 9 9 9 24, but the 1.35v's setting may cause a problem. As Bernhard has mentioned, the system may not be able to lower the DRAM V. to 1.35v's, I have never tried it to find out. The other scenario is the DRAM V. will default to 1.50v's at startup & work fine. Then, manual reduction of the DRAM V. could be attempted.
I've not bought the corsair ram ..
If the 1600 ddr3 worked under at 1333 could be that they would not work at 1.35volt, but at 1.5volt standard value

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MSI 975x Powerup edition and ram question

I am thinking on upgrading my ram on the board mentioned above I have 2GB or corsair which works fine anyone here know if I add another 2GB does it need to be corsair or could I use something like kingston or kingmax or whatever? Or does it need to be the exact same corsair ram. In the past this wasn't an issue but this board is extremely fussy.
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you should get all 4 sticks the SAME model name. If you get different sets of pairs, it's more likely they will run into issue. However, in most case, they still can run just good enough. But if you're going into overclocking, you will hit the bottleneck easier compared to 4 same sticks.

MSI Neo2 Plat wont work!

Hey guys, recently bought all new parts for a computer:
MSI Neo2 Platinum Socket 939 Mobo
AMD 3500+ 939 not proccess .013 micron i think?
WD 160GB 8mb SATA HD
Leadtek Gforce 6800GT 256mb AGP8x
Corsair XMS Extreme 1gb (512 x 2)
ok so I put all the things together and try to start the computer. At the first screen where it shows the VGA bios info its all in symbols and in different colors and I cant read anything and when it goes to the MSI Neo2 Platinum Edition Screen I cant see it well either. It then goes onto Verifying DMI Pool Data... and hangs there. All 4 leds are on, for the D bracket thing. Everything is in symbols and I cannot read anything nor enter bios. HELP PLZ!
PS. Turns out I can enter bios but there are black square spots all over the place preventing me from actively reading the bios settings and such.

Sounds like a faulty video card to me.
Try using a spare video card for testing.
But don't test with one that is too old. I believe this mobo only suports video cards that use the 1.5V standard. Usually any AGP 4X or better will do.

MSI K8N Neo2 Platinum, Socket 939, nVIDIA nForce3 Ultra Chipset w/ 8X AGP (ATX)

MSI K8N Neo2 Platinum, Socket 939, nVIDIA® nForce3 Ultra Chipset w/ 8X AGP (ATX)
and a 3500 90 nm amd 64.........is this a god combo ......Im swicthing mine for this(just the cpu and mobo) opions?..........any help is welcome...Its in the name of gamging...

Quote from: duffyone on 31-March-05, 11:54:15
Now... don't LOL, but there is a reason I picked the 3200+ instead of the 3000+, but I can't remember why???
Probably because the 3000+ only has a 9x maximum multiplier, whereas the 3200+ will go to 10x.
2600MHz at 9x means a FSB of 289MHz and ram at 289MHz for best performance. Will your ram do 289MHz? Of course you *can* run your memory and fsb async, but I prefer not to.
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MSI 990FXA-GD65 + AMD FX-6300 + 16GB 1866MHz RAM Won't Boot

Hello,
Today I received parts for my new gaming system (sans water cooler, using the stock heatsink+fan until then), however I'm experiencing problems with the setup. The specs are as follows:
- MSI 990FXA-GD65
- AMD FX-6300 CPU
- GSKILL 16GB (2x8GB) 1866MHz DDR3 RAM
- Kingston SSDNow V300 120GB SSD
- 2x MSI GeForce GTX 660 Ti
- EVGA NEX750B1 PSU
- BitFenix Comrade case
Upon powering on (after assembly), the Phase Indicator only has the first two LEDs lit up (Phase 2 Power Mode, according to the manual). No output is displayed on screen. I've tried removing and re-inserting the CPU and removing one of the graphics cards, to no avail.
I would appreciate any help/advise that could be offered, that I might get this system up and running!
Kind Regards

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If possible, borrow different brand of RAM to test your PC with.
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MSI 880G-E45 AMD ATX and G.Skill Ram?

I am upgrading my system and was thinking of getting the MSI 880G-E45 AMD ATX motherboard with the AMD Phenom II X6 1090T BE AM3 with the G.Skill 2 2Gig ram sticks. I checked the MSI site to see if the ram works with the 880G, but the 2 last letters of the ram listed was off from what I bought. Does that mean it won't work? The package says the G.Skill is designed for Intel LGA1156 platforms and compatible with Intel LGA1155 Sandy Bridge and AMD AM3 CPUs.
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F3-12800CL9D-4GBHN or something like that was what was listed on the list
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MSI 880G-E45 AMD ATX
AMD Phenom II X6 1090T BE AM3
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And yes, I am not very computer techy literate.

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But on newegg, the G.Skill had pretty stellar reviews from a bunch of people so it's hard to think they are a bad choice.
Were these reports by Intel or AMD users ?
If you look at what G-Skill states themselves in one of the feedbacks you will see this:
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We are sorry to hear you are having issues. Please make sure to configure memory settings properly in BIOS. Without the proper settings, this memory will not work smoothly. This memory is above standard, so manual settings or enabling DOCP (if supported) is required. AMD systems only support DDR3-1333 CL9 natively, so if you purchase memory better than this, you must manually input settings in BIOS

Vga silencer (ati) fit on msi neo2 939

I am concerned about the clearance between the northbridge fan and my vga silencer (ati ver.1) used currently on my ati 9800pro. I have ordered the msi neo2 and think that it will barely fit but wondered if anyone else have noticed this.
Thank you
Kim

I had a little problem installing mine. It took me a couple of minutes to figure out what was going on. The H/L switch on the VGA Silenser was hitting one of the capasitors on the mobo and I couldn't push the card all the way in. I had to unbolt and reposition the switch. And like the others said there's not much room between the NB fan and the card, but it does fit. I think it would be chalanging trying to get to the AGP slot clip with that tight fit. Good luck!

MOVED: Best BIOS setting for MSI K8N Plat + AMD 3000+ Venice + Geil Value RAM

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Best BIOS setting for MSI K8N Plat + AMD 3000+ Venice + Geil Value RAM

If you want SSE3 support and you do not overclock, Bios 1.4 is the only one officially available (1.41beta is not official).
Try to upgrade to 1.4 and see it for yourself, do the upgrade with floppy in DOS so that you can save your old Bios.
I would rather wait till mid June when a less troublesome new bios is suppose to be availabe for NEO4 MBs.

MSI Neo2 K8N Platinum - Freezing Issue during games

First off greetings to everyone on these forums...
I purchased the MSI Neo2 K8N Platinum motherboard from NewEgg back at the end of March to compliment the AMD 64 "Winchester" processor that I also purchased at that time to replace a slightly older AMD XP "Barton" system that was using the Abit NF7-S motherboard. For the past month I have been fighting an unusual and highly irritating issue that I have noticed during game play and have tried everything that I know of and more in an attempt to remedy this issue, but to no avail. This is the general background of the situation and now I will descibe in greater detail as to what this issue I am referring to is and the symptoms of this issue and some of the various methods used to remedy this issue.
The issue is that while play a game the system experiences a short 5-10 second freeze during the game randomly, but usually several times an hour. During this freezing the sound would loop and as suddenly as the freeze occurs it would cease and the game would continue on as if nothing happened. However, sometimes this would result in the system freezing outright after this short 5-10 second freeze... but it does not feel like a total system freeze, but rather a video freeze as the sound continues and I still have keyboard control... but this does require me to force a manual reboot of the machine itself. I have scowered the internet and various forums in an attempt to find what the issue was and use various methods to remedy this issue, but so far nothing has worked in my favor... but it does seem like this issue has been plaguing other users with the MSI Neo2 Platinum motherboard. Below are some of the methods that I have used in an attempt to solve this issue:
*Default Clock for CPU/Memory/GPU; Over/Under Clock for CPU/Memory/GPU
*Increased voltages to CPU VID, AGP, and Memory
*Disabled/Enabled AGP Fast Writes
*Increased AGP Aperture from 64MB to 512MB
*Enabled/Disabled ATI/nVidia Speedup option in BIOS
*Forced AGP clock lock to 66-67mhz
*Relaxed/Aggressive memory timings
*APIC enabled/disabled
*Gate A20 turbo/normal
*Disabled all unneeded onboard components (Realtek NIC, Sound, SATA)
*Disabled nVidia MAC and attempted to use 3Com Gigabit PCI card instead
*Swapped HDD Cables
*Tried PCI Sound Card (SB Audigy2 ZS Gamer) in PCI Slots 3/4
*Tried video drivers from 71.89 Official to 76.45 beta modified drivers
*Tried 5.10 official nForce drivers to remixed 7.02 nForce drivers (5.10 drivers uses 4.36 GART, higher drivers uses the 4.40 GART)
*Applied all the latest updates from Windows Update Website
*Reinstalled Operating System (Windows XP SP2) 5 different times clean with various settings (APIC on/off, etc...) and different drivers.
*Installed Audio Card (SB Audigy2 ZS Gamer) with older and the latest drivers available from Creative's website
*Replaced PSU (Previously was a Thermaltake 420watt PSU, 18A +12v) with a OCZ Modstream 520watt PSU (28A +12v)
*Video card is KNOWN working from previous build (AMD XP 3000, Abit NF7-S)
*Hard Drive is KNOWN working from previous build
*CD/DVD-ROM drive is kNOWN working from previous build
*Heat is not an issue... all components temperature is well below rated level, the only unknown is the chipset temperature (it has a active heatsink and seems to not be hot to the touch, applied AS5 to it anyway)
*Used latency tweak to the video card
*Used Rivatuner to force constant performance level
*Tweaked BIOS to force even clock rates and forced 1.4v to the GPU Core
*Used original GPU BIOS
*Used MSI Neo2 K8N Bios 1.4 - 1.8 and modified BIOS 1.8
*No background applications are running (not even antivirus)
*Used application to force maximum refresh rates for my monitor
*Memory passed MemTest86+ for over 24 hours
*System passed Prime95 and SuperPi for over 24 hours
*System seems stable in all non gaming related applications
*Checked through various troubleshooting procedures
*Disabled SBDRVDET.EXE using MSCONFIG
*There are no IRQ conflicts outside of PCI system management sharing IRQ11 with the NIC and USB... in APIC there are no IRQ conflicts what so ever. Regardless neither method worked
*Installed AMD 64 drivers from AMD
*Disabled DEP in boot.ini
*...and many other various tweaks and modifications.
System Specifications
CPU - AMD 64 3200+ "Winchester", using Thermaltake Silentboost K8 and AS5
Motherboard - MSI Neo2 K8N Platinum (nForce3 250GB Ultra) - Using Bios version 1.8
Memory - 2X 512MB Corsair XMS TwinX1024-3200C2PT (2 Modules, Memory Slots 1 and 2 used)
Audio - Sound Blaster Audigy2 ZS (PCI Slot 3 used)
NIC - Onboard nVidia MAC, Disabled Realtek NIC
Video - XFX Geforce 6800NU 128MB AGP (BIOS Rev 1) - NV Silencer 5 and AS5
Case - Thermaltake Damier Series 5000
PSU - OCZ Modstream 520watt (28A +12v rail)
HDD - Western Digital 1200JB 7200rpm IDE
DVD-ROM - Lite-On 16X DVD-ROM
Floppy - Mitsumi 1.44MB 3.25"
OS - Windows XP SP2/DirectX 9c
I have been fighting this issue for well over a month now and I am frankly nearly out of ideas, this does not necessarly prevent me from playing games, but this does interfere with the games I do play (especially online games). I do demand absolute stability from the games that I play and this issue only began AFTER I upgraded to the new motherboard, processor, and memory. The only thing I have not tried is something that I do not have access in attempting on this motherboard, and that is increasing the voltage to the chipset.
Here is my theory on what is going on is that I believe is there is a fault with the chipset on this motherboard and this is manifesting itself while I am playing various games on this system. Of course I would like to try increasing the voltage to the chipset as that would increase stability, but there is no option in BIOS to increase the chipset voltage like the previous motherboard I had (Abit NF7-S). It is possible that either a) the chipset is at fault and is causing me this issue or b) the chipset is not recieving enough voltage.
My question to the rest of you is this, what do you think the problem is and what ideas do you have that I may try that I have not tried yet. Additionally if there is nothing else that I may try should I attempt to RMA this motherboard and will that help, and is there any other versions of this motherboard that I should be aware of. I would appreciate any response from a MSI representative and any comments from those that may have positive suggestions for my issue. Thank you in advance for your time and any help that you may be able to render.
The GameMaster...
*EDIT* Added additional methods attempted... (there was a lot... so I did not remember everything that I have tried)

Quote from: dacull on 25-May-05, 16:06:33
Does it only happen in online games, or can it happen in all games? One thing to make sure of is to turn off CRC checksum offload in your NVidia MAC properties (everyone do this, it is incorrectly calculating checksums which leads to servers ignoring your packets). However as you have tried a different network card you can discount this theory.
For me it looks like the biggest culrpit is your 6800NU, i have read alot of bad things about the NU and you have a low bios revision there, just because it worked well against your old chipset doesnt mean it will work well against your current chipset. Sounds like a BIOS fix is needed as some timing is out somewhere.
Ensure Spread Spectrum is off (and as you have already pointed out Fast writes, ATI NV Speedup) and your card is running at default clock.
As a test beg/borrow/steal another graphics card (preferably nvidia) and see how it goes so you can narrow in on your video card.
It is not just one game, but it is more prodominate in certain games than others... the game in question here is Planetside... though I stuck a demo of Unreal Tournament 2004 on a loop bot match and it seemed to have locked up after 4 hours (not sure how many times it experienced that 5-10 freeze as I went to bed). As for the video card it was KNOWN working from a previous build in those same games (Previous build was a AMDXP3000 and a Abit NF7-S nForce2 motherboard). The only components different in this build is the AMD64, the MSI Neo2 K8N, 2 new sticks of Corsair XMS to replace the Corsair ValueSelects, and the SB Audigy2 as I would never use a software codec audio solution. Spread Spectrum is LOCKED in BIOS and disabled... ATI/nVidia speed up was disabled from the start... and I tried the Video Card at default clock, over clocked, as well as under clocked and the same issue resulted... as I said before it is NOT the video card.
There are two other things I could try is use my old Geforce4ti 4200 and see what happens... or even try out WindowsXP 64-bit edition as someone earlier suggested. I wish I could find a new BIOS for my XFX 6800NU, but there there is only the revision 1 BIOS that I was able to find. The mystery continues...
The GameMaster...

MSI K7D Dual AMD PCI Bridge Help

I noticed in the Device Mgr, there is a question mark next to other devices, and below it, there is an exclamation/question mark next to Other PCI Bridge Device.
What is this Other PCI Bridge Device? Is there a driver for it or is this a hardware problem? How do I fix that?
I have a MSI K7D Dual AMD 2400MP, 2GB Mushkin ECC RAM, GF4 4600 Video card, and using Win2k.
Thanks.
T

with dual motherboard you should have a 2nd IRQ controler is that installed? maybe its that "other"
with a dual motherboard you should have 255 IRQ's

MSI Neo2 FX, AMD 939 RAM question

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