MSI neo2 Platinum Instability

I just got my whole new computer setup within the last few days. The problem I have come to now is that my system pretty much randomly reboots itself every so often( like 1-5 hours). I've had this happen both while the system is under load being burning a dvd and also when i'm just surfin the net. One of the first things I did was to flash the bios to version 1.4 before i installed the os. I also read a guide that I saw someone post on here about the settings for the neo2 motherboard and adjusted what was needed accordingly and checked that my bios is set about the same for stability. At first I thought it was just my video card screwing it up as when I put the system together it was with a very old card but then I got the new one and the same thing keeps happening. Then I thought it may be that my windows installation was corrupt or just a bad one so i formatted my drive and redid the installation, but to no avail, I still got the same random reboots. The temperature readouts in the bios are 37 for the cpu and 30 for the case so i don't think its overheating or anything. I am wondering if anyone has experienced similar problems or knows of this problem and can lend a suggestion to what the problem is.
My setup is as follows:
MSI K8N neo2 Platinum
AMD 3500 90nm
1 gig OCZ pc3200 platinum rev. 2
ATI All-In-Wonder 9800
OCZ 420 watt power supply
western digital 74 gig raptor
thanx for the help
Freak

Quote from: Wonkanoby on 25-February-05, 16:05:09
turn of auto matic reboots so you can see the bsod
and post stop code and any driver etc it blames
Memtest86
I'm not sure how to turn off automatic reboots. I only see the blue screen for literally a split second just before it reboots.
I'm using WinXP btw and have all updates installed incause that matters. Anyway everytime it restarted in the first install it used to blame the video driver but with this new second install of windows i have a different video card and different drivers so it doesn't say "device driver wrong for video card(or something similar) anymore. Now it says pretty much the same thing but doesn't limit it to the video card, it just says device drivers are wrong or something like that.

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Quote from: JayBee on 26-November-05, 13:29:33
Welcome to the Forum. Please post complete system specs by creating a "sig" as described in the forum rules. Be sure to include complete power supply specs (brand, model and amps on 3.3, 5 and 12 volts) as shown on the label on the side of the power supply itself. The fact that a component works in the ABIT board does not mean that it is not the problem in your board, so don't forget to list all components in reasonable detail (e.g., memory size brand specs, hd, cards). Please confirm that you board is MSI #7025 too. Good luck.
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Originally posted by jimmytop
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