MSI Neo4 Platninum - Shutdown Computer actually reboots computer

Just finished building this machine 2 days ago. Everything is running perfect and stable as a rock.
The only thing I've noticed is when I go to do Shutdown within Windows, it'll finish with the "saving personal settings, windows is shutting down" stuff then the screen will go blank for about 5 seconds and the machine turns back on. Any idea whether a bios flash will fix this? It looks like I have BIOS 1.3 from 031105. I think I included all necessary specs in the signature, but let me know if I didn't.
Thanks for your help

Quote from: jamz1155 on 07-August-05, 01:55:41
Ah ha! I've fixed it. The problem is not the nVidia LAN at all, because I dont use it anyway, I use the Marvell one instead.
This is how i fixed it on my Neo4 Platinum: Go into the device properties for the Marvell Gigabit Ethernet Controller and to to the Advanced tab. The last entry on the list is "Wake Up Capabilities" - change that to "None" in the drop down menu.
yep that fixed it. thanks a lot! this works in windows XP pro also.

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MSI NEO4 Platinum + DUAL CORE detection problem after soft reboot

I just build a new AMD dual core system (4800+) and it consistently fails to detect the second core after a soft reboot from windows Xp. The MSI NEO4 Platinum came pre-flashed with the latest bios version 1.B. If power off or use the reset button I can consistently get it to detect both processors. Anyone else having this problem? Or know of a solution?
Thanks.

Hi, I did a upgrade from a 3200 venice to a Opty 165.[This is a different situation than your new build] I deleted the uniprocessor ACPI from the device manager before I removed the old cpu. It was a bit weird for me in that at first the bios saw it as a 165 dual core then the next time it would come up as single core. It went back and forth a few times between single and dual core in bios. I tinkered with a few things in the bios but not really sure if it helped but it eventualy stayed as dual core in bios and showes as dual core in windows. I have my MPS table version set to 1.4 in bios [ but it was this before change in cpu] also my IOAPIC is now greyed out [unable to change it, but it wasn't before] - both these are in Advanced bios features. In power management I have the ACPI standby state set to auto. Hope some of this might help you.

Neo4 Platinum Shutdown Problems

I'm having problems to turn off my PC from windows or using the power button, my PC wont turn off completely monitor will go to stand by mode and the computer stays ON well I have to push the power button for 5 seconds and finally goes OFF!!
When I bought My MSI Neo4 platinum Nforce4 ultra (MS-7125) came with bios V1.6 and looks like I was experiencing problems with USB external drives so I updated to Bios V1.9 and the computer will not shudown I when back to V1.6 and the problem was gone then MSI released Bios V1.A I jumped and flashed my bios to see what happens!!
Well the PC is having shutdown problems again!!
I dont know What's going I installed a fresh WindowsXP just in case and the problem stays the same
I can only think of a defective PSU if that is the case why with Bios 1.9 and 1A have that specific problem?
Can somebody give me an idea?
thanks!!
Neo4 Platinum Nforce4 ultra (MS-7125)
Athlon 64 4000+
2GB OCZ PC3200 EL
XFX 7800GT
2x200GB Maxtor SATA Raid 0
2X300GB PATA
Audigy2ZS
Thermaltake 420W PSU 20pin

Hi,
I had the same problems.
installed with the help of the Diskette (also 2raidO HD), en then the drivers from the CD.
problem still there.
I then upgraded to 3.7 bios & 6.66 msi nforce (downloaded from MSI website): problem solved.
I later upgraded to the Nvidia 3.70 drivers, no issues.
I do have a problem about the Sound and the Digital Decoder of the DTT3500 Cambridge Soundworks.. (already posted in this tread):
Can't get 5.1 sound running! (with digital output, like on the SB LIVE! 5.1)
quote below:
I have bought a new PC with an MSI k8n sli platinum MB. this mainboard has a built in soundblaster live!24-bit chip onboard. it works great on headphones and normal 2 set speakers (analog connection).
however, when I try to set them up at the DTT3500 speaker set, trouble begins.
before continuing, just want to say First that my older PC is standing next to it, with a Soundblaster live! 5.1. If I connect with this PC to my speaker set, via the digital uitput, everythin works great. (5.1 surround).
In the DTT3500 manual, when Digital DIN is blinking, it says it isn't recieving any signal, or not the right one (like AC-3). (I know this when on my old PC when I switch to headphones, the digital din is then blinking, which is normal as I disabled Digital output in Windows)
now my questions:
Is this digital port is ac-3 signal or somthing else on the Soundblaster live! 24-bit?
Do I need to use another type of cable, like SPDIF Din Cable? (I now have a minijack to Din cable)
I tried with optical, it works, but only with 2 speakers (left and right / digital output is on). is this normal? If i look at the manual, it's typical used for gameconsoles with stereo left and right. I guess this is so with the DDT3500 decoder...?
if I try Digital Din on the Decoder, it doesn't work. the Decoder Led keeps blinking. Yet in Windows, digital output is on and 5.1 speakers is selected.
In short, exact the same setup on the Decoder and PC as my older PC.
My guess is the the soundblaster live! 24-bit is an enhanced version of the soundblaster live! 5.1? Am I wrong, I don't know....
I do know that the reviews said you could use the digital port (orange one)"
NOTE, yesterday, I disable the onboard SB live! 24 bit card, plugged in the SB live! 5.1 card from my other PC. This works ok like it should.
I would apreciate any help, as i'm really stuck at the moment & I just hate to disable this lovely onboard card.

Memory not recognized on MSI Neo4 Platinum SLI

I just installed another 512mb of RAM on this system:
MSI Neo4 Platinum SLI
2 x 512mb Corsair XMS XL PRO
1 x 512mb Corsair XMS XL (the one that doesnt work)
IDE HDD
Windows XP PRO
BIOS, and every program i run that can see system specs shows that the infact all 3 Sticks
are recognizable. Though...Windows and a program that shows me my physical memory max both
point out i have only 1 gig of RAM!?
It's there, just not being used?
Now the only difference with the XL version and the XL PRO version is the heatspreader,
everything else is the same....so nothing should be conflicting.
Since the computer somehow knows all my part's details..im thinking just because
the new ram doesnt have PRO that it may not be recognized to work together.
Even so...ram should downclock etc with this motherboard...so this stupid little name
issue shouldnt cause the computer to ignore the ram!
I tried switching DIMM slots, no luck.
Any ideas?

It's a AMD64 dual memory channel system motherboard/CPU.
Valid memory populations are
1.stick in one of the channels .(single mode 64bits)
1.stick in each channel .(dual mode 128bits)
2. sticks in one of the channels.(single mode 64bits)
4.sticks ,2 in each channel.(dual mode 128bits)
3 sticks is n/a.
The population on memory controller , it's initialization and modeselection , single/dual mode is chosen by the A64 cpu.
It's been said that later rev.E cpus can autoselect unmatched population between channels (of e.g 3.sticks) and
set the whole memory pool in single mode.
But i have never seen anyone successfully test/run it .

Msi Neo4-Fi Temperature Freeze/Shut down

I have the following motherboard: MSI Neo4-Fi
The system was working fine for 2 months. Now the temperature is instantly increases 10-15 C after starting the PC-Mark test, and increases more in this great heat.
The computer stops on 65-70 C. Everest measure at aux temp 78C, what is this?
I have checked the cooling, and changed it two times.
The computer is on 52 C at start in bios.
Memtest and ghost freezes too after the start.
The computer contains the following particles:
MSI Neo4-Fi
Athlon 64 3200+ E6 Rev. Stock cooler
Chenbro Gaming Bomb Case (1*12cm, 2*8cm fan)
MSI 7600GS VGA Card (Idle temp 36C)
2x512MB Corsair Value Select PC3200
Chieftec 410W PSU (Delta Construction)
WD 320GB Sata HDD
Plextor Pata DVD+-RW
Could This be a Motherboard failure ??!??

forget about the fan blowing on the mobo, it doesn't lower the CPU temperature. you will have to take the heatsink and fan off the CPU, make sure that the plastic foil doesn't cover the thermal compound. clear whatever thermal paste is left on the CPU and heatsing and reapply a thin layer of thermal paste (arctic silver 5 is prefered). put the heatsink back on the CPU, and make sure that you connect the CPU fan to the mobo.
with 40C in the room, my winchester would never go higher than 52C, overclocked and under full load, with the stock cooling, so you definately have a problem there. if the computer freezes or shuts down, it is because of the thermal sensor from the CPU.

MSI Neo4 Plat. SLI

MSI Neo4 Plat. SLI
FX-55
Antec 550 True Power
NEC DVD Rom
2GB OCZ Platinum Ram
and a single 7900 GTX
I was browsing some forums last night, and suddenly heard a loud *CRACK* from my computer. ???
The computer froze, but did not turn off.
Attempted a hard boot, and nothing not even a POST responds.
Popped open the content's, to see what might have happened.
And under the edge of my video card I notice that the SLI Switch Card has come loose. The little black plastic thing that was supposed to keep it in place had popped out. I attempted to place it back in to see if this would correct the problem (afraid it will not), but it will not stay securly lodged into place.
Any suggestion's on how to get the SLI Swicth Card Black Pin thing to work, or a work around to it, in order to test the system and see what, if anything else might have blown before I go for an RMA?
Thank you for any help or suggestions.

With regards to the small black pin that holds the SLI card in place, I have to admit that its a very poor design from MSI. I can think of two ways to fix it, and both would require you to strip the mobo down and remove it from the case.
1: would be to build up the "small ball" part of the pin with a blob of glue,(epoxy) so that it cant pop thru the small hole in the mobo.
2: Same idea as the first but using a hot knife or a soldering iron tip to flatten out the "small ball" part of the pin. (BE VERY careful not to over do it).
Best option tho would be to RMA the board.
Its the loud crack that you heard that worries me tho. Was it the physical sound of the SLI bridge card coming out or was it more of an electrical type crack that you heard?
Best thing to do would be to strip back to bare basics and try to go on from there, ie one video card, one memory stick and one H/Drive, Reset the BIOS, and set BIOS to boot from cd and see what happens.
As for getting a new pin from them, I would drop them an email, depending on where you live they might be able to post one to you.

MSI Neo4 Platinum with MSI GF6600GT PCI-e Freezes on games

I'm having this serious problem that my new build system freezes on games. Sometimes I can play for a few hours and sometimes I can play only a few minutes before the system freezes completely. Only a hardware reset helps in this case.
This is my hardware setup:
MSI Neo4 Platinum
MSI GF6600GT PCI-e
2 x 512MB DDR400 memory(in dual mode)
AMD 3200+ 64-bit processor
Sound Blaster Audigy
DVD Writer
Floppy
I'm using Windows XP SP2
What I tryd:
Tested with other RAM modules, same trouble
Reinstalled windows xp, same trouble
Tryd all kind of driver versions, same trouble
Flashed bios to 1.9, same trouble
Put a Zalman Cooler on the Video card (temperature now between 40 and 60 degrees in games instead of 80-100 degrees), same trouble
This is where my questions come:
There are two hardware components I cannot switch to try:
The mainboard and the Video card. Whitch one is most likely to be broken??
I have read in the manual of the mainboard that the PSU should have at least 18A on the 12+ signal. My PSU only haves 15A there. While I doubt this results in problems like this I still like to know if it does!
Please help me out on this one!

Have tried older drivers for you GFX, I find the late 6XXX work better for most games. You mite want to check the system is stable with:
Prime95, Memtest86, 3D mark 03 & 05.
You mite be having the same problems as "easlern", his games would lock up. This was due to to a problem with onboard sound Sound Blaster.
https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=84328.0
https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=84328.msg603340#msg603340
Quote
At that moment I didn't even know what was actually on my board, but I knew it was a generic card I was probably never going to use anyway, and I didn't recall getting any sound card updates for this board. So I looked in device manager, and bingo: AC97 device under multimedia devices. I immediately did two things to completely eliminate the rascal: updated the driver for it and promptly went to BIOS and disabled the sucker. Also disabled SATA group 2 (slots 3 and 4), the Marvell LAN because I only use one ethernet anyway (the nVidia one, which from what I was reading, was probably the more robust of the two), both RAID controllers (actually I had disabled them earlier to skip the annoying RAID setup screen), and put the PCIe bus back to 100MHz (rogue: I was wondering about possible damage over time with this too high too, so I was glad to try setting it back to normal!) Also ran Driver Cleaner to rip out the detonators even though I was putting in another nVidia, and then put in the 6800GT and installed drivers. (In case you were interested, my 3dMark05 score went from 3511 under the 6600GT to 4939 under the 6800GT! I now run in 1280x1024 at max effects and I'm completely spoiled in one night already! )
Anyway, one of these myriad, desperate attempts must have worked because I get neither audio stutters (should have been a freaking clue in the first place, duh!) nor lock ups.
Since this is the first PC I've built, I was certain I had to have screwed something up hardware-wise or found some combination that had incompatibilities. If it WAS just the freaking sound card driver I'm going to leave this place in shame and never post again! In my defense, the MSI Update utility didn't show any updated sound drivers for me, and I had assumed it was being pre-empted by my SB Live in any case.
I was convinced this problem was (if it is indeed gone) a video card issue but I can't say it ever was without putting the 6600 back in and running for several hours. I'm going to bet it was the AC97 though because nVidia boards have always been fantastic for me, I haven't had any actual motherboard issues, my RAM and CPU are just fine, and Win2k has never let me down.
Don't assume anything, though, I've learned.
One thing to note: when I was checking out the AC97, I noticed it was *sharing* IRQ 20 with the nForce NIC detector (might have a different name, I can't remember right now). Apparently this is a capability of Win2k to share IRQs but it kind of added to my suspicions anyway.
I'll let you know how the next few sessions go and whether this issue is still an issue

Multiplier 9 with high HTT on MSI NEO4 bugged?

Hi guys,
I have a strange problem with this board.
First my system:
3000+ winnie (No sub-zero bug!)
MSI NEO4 Platinum (Bios 1.2B)
2x512MB GSKILL PC4400
I can run prime stable at 300x9 (180MHz devider).
Under the prometeia I have the oppurtunity to go further.
I hit the 322x9 =2900MHz also prime stable.
http://www.xs4all.nl/~famchow/A64_3.../Prime_2.90.JPG
But after some time, on every moment it give me a BSOD and reboot.
In the bios a max. can set 310MHz in bios to get windows booted, higher I can boot in the bios but reboot before the windows loading screen.
I tryed every settings HTT X1 , 2, 3 and the bandwidth 16/16 8/8. Still nogo.
BUT, when I use MP8, I can boot into windows with HTT 330MHz!!!...
Is this a bios problem or something else?? Maybe this is something for the MSI bios engineers.
THnx
BTW:
to MSI engineers: Check the memory timings settings.
Read preamble, Max async and Trc /Tfrc arent correct when setting. I checked this with A64 tweaker in windows.

I have exactly the same problem. No problem with no OC, MemTest-86 and Prime95 ok.
I saw a excellent article on anandtech.com: http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview.aspx?catid=28&threadid=1497607&enterthread=y
First I tries to detect the max HTT/FSB. According to this article I put the CPU multi to 6, the memory to SPD, 2T and memoryclock to 100.
HTT to 4.0. CPU spread spectrum, PCI-e spread spectrum and SATA to disabled. Vcore 1.50V and Vmem 2.60V
FSB 200 en 210 ok. Then FSB 220 the BIOS doesn't start anymore. THe power- and the HDD-led lights continuous and no image on the screen.
I have to reset the BIOS with the button on the board to get back to normal.
I haven't tried Clockgen. As soon as I have results a report back.
My system specs:
BeQuiet Powersupply 400W, +12V 20A
MSI K8N Neo4 Platinum BIOS 1.1
Winchester 3200+
Leadtek Geforce 6600GT
2 x 512MB Crusial Ballistic PC3200
120 Gb Maxtor
Windows XP Pro S2
nVidia nForce4 standalone driver v6.39

[AMD] MSI Neo4-f 3500+ overclock settings

I have the following setup...
MSI K8N Neo4-F
AMD Athlon 64 3500+
Antec Sonata II with 450Watt SmartPower 2.0 PSU
PowerColor ATI Radeon X800 GT 256MB
100GB Maxtor SATA drive
CORSAIR XMS 1GB (2 x 512MB) 184-Pin DDR SDRAM (TWINX1024-3200C2PT)
I have been trying to set up my BIOS settings to achieve a nice balance between performance and stability. I am not seeing great performance at this time (tons of HD paging and slow bootup and application launch times) and when I try to boost the settings at all the system becomes unstable. Wondering if anyone out there has a similar setup to me and can help me achieve some better performance at a light overclock setting. There are so many BIOS settings it is difficult to find a good combination which works.
Thanks in advance.

Bekoz -
Hello. I have the exact same motherboard, cpu, and memory as you! I'm having no luck with the overclocking and all but gave up. The best I could get is going from 2.2 stock on the venice 3500+ to 2.4 equiv. to a 3800+. Please see my old post from another forum below. I'm wondering since we have the same setup what the best is that you have achieved. Thanx!!!
Hi All -
I'm kinda new to the planet and to actually trying to OC my system but have been reading on this subject for several weeks now and following the guidelines and multiple threads here. I'm not having the best of luck though. I've been messing all weekend with the overclocking on my MSI Neo4-f board. I think it either is a crappy board for OC'ing (would like an ASUS A8N SLI deluxe which I hear is good for OC) or I'm not doing something right. I had no luck with the 1.9 bios (couldn't get it over 240HTT without something going wrong) and flashed back to 1.6 cuz I heard this is a better bios to OC. I can't get it to post with an HTT over 250 now even though it is 10 better than with the 1.9. I've tried changing the memory timings from 1T to 2T and CAS from 2 to 2.5 (corsair suggests 2-3-3-6 1T and 2.75V for AMD platforms) and changing the volts and divider. I originally was running memory at 2.5-3-3-6 2T but had better PC Mark #'s with the 2-3-3-6 1T. I also messed with the cpu volts and multiplier, as well as the chipset voltage all in different varieties and the best I could get out of my Athlon 64 3500+ venice was only 2.4ghz from the stock 2.2ghz!!! Not too good compared to what I've read others have achieved here with an Athlon 64 3500+.
Here's my system specs:
-MSI K8N Neo4-F motherboard with 1.6 bios
-Athlon 64 3500+ Venice with ThermalTake Venus 12 fan and artic silver 3
-1gig Corsair XMS TwinX1024 Dual Channel PC3200 Platinum (2x512) with suggested timings 2-3-3-6 at 2.75 volts
-EVGA 6800GT OC'ed at 416mhz core and 1.134ghz memory
-500W p.s. with air-cooled case and two fans
-XP (32 bit) OS
Here's my settings in the BIOS right now where my system is stable (let me know if something jumps out at you as being screwed up or not normal):
-Memory Divider / speed = 166 (from 200 stock)
-Memory timings = 2-3-3-6 at 2.75volts and 1T (dual channel in slots 1 & 2 for paired memory)
-HTT / FSB = 240
-HT multiplier = 4x (960 HT)
-CPU ratio / multiplier = 10x (2.4ghz CPU from 2.2)
-VCORE = 1.45v (using 1.4 plus 3.3% over option) for a total of 1.45 volts
-Memory = 2.75v
-Chipset NF4 = 1.5v
-Cool & Quiet Disabled
-CPU Spread Spectrum Disabled
-Aggressive Timing Disabled
I've done the CPU-ID, Memtest, Prime 95, and Super PI tests for quite a while and everything seems stable at these settings now. I got some higher HTT's and cpu multipliers (10.5x) but system either wouldn't post or windows wouldn't boot all the way or the tests failed in Prime 95 after a few minutes. Under load, the CPU goes to about 40 degrees and at idle it is at about 32 degrees.
My scores with the above settings are:
PC Mark 04 = 4684
3D Mark 01 = 24433
3D Mark 05 = 5049
Any advice or opinions would be awesome. I can't figure out what my bottleneck is here. I think the memory I have is great for overclocking, as is the 3500+ Venice. Also, how do these scores sound for my specs? Thanx again for everyone's advice and help!

Newbie with MSI neo4 Plat

hey there,
my 1st post here.
MOBO: MSI Neo4 Plat
Graphic: MSI 7600GS
CPU : AMD X2 3800+
power supply: 500W
recently i got this problem. Randomly my display goes blank, like the PC is on standby. The pc seems to be running but the monitor seems to be set to standby.
after i restart the PC(only able to do by the reset button, cannot Ctrl+Alt+del) everything seems to be ok.
the problem seems to occur randomly.
anyone have any idea what's going on here?
thanx for reading.
cheers!

Quote from: okta on 02-June-06, 00:35:16
hey there,
my 1st post here.
MOBO: MSI Neo4 Plat
Graphic: MSI 7600GS
CPU : AMD X2 3800+
power supply: 500W
recently i got this problem. Randomly my display goes blank, like the PC is on standby. The pc seems to be running but the monitor seems to be set to standby.
after i restart the PC(only able to do by the reset button, cannot Ctrl+Alt+del) everything seems to be ok.
the problem seems to occur randomly.
What kind of monitor, how is it connected and does it use calibration software. I've seen this with Samsung (and some OEM brands made by Samsung) monitors, which use Magictune, connected to the DVI port. Basically Magictune is crap ands clobbers the monitor's EDID info so that it switches to the VGA port - you can check this by plugging in the VGA cable. Depending on the monitor, it can cause permanent damage to the monitor's firmware which requires a firmware re-burn... or as apparently in your case, temporary damage which is fixed with a reboot. The only solution is to get a newer version of Magictune.. or dump it completely.

My feeble attempt at a MB comparison - Asus A8N-E vs MSI Neo4 Platinum

Hi all,
I just thought I'd share a post I just finished submitting at the Asus forum. Here's my experience, in a nutshell, with both the Asus A8N-E and the K8N Neo4 Platinum:
I've decided to give up on the A8N-E and Asus (for now) in favor of the MSI Neo4 Platinum. The layout of the Asus board is top notch, but there are some significant issues with it.
The CUSL2 turned me into a huge Asus fan, but no more. After a week of playing with both here's my review:
Asus A8N-E (v2.0)
Pro's
-Superior Layout - See Neo4 cons below. However, there are two electrolytic capacitors on the back end that had to be nudged out of the way to install my 6600GT.
-No superfluous features.
-Stable
-Performance on par with other nF4 mobos.
-I love the Ctrl-Esc wake up feature and will sorely miss it.
Con's
-Will not run 2225 OCZ Gold Dual Channel RAM any faster than 2325 (bios must be reflashed).
-Quirky recovery features. You need the mobo CD or floppy disk. Also, there was one instance where it failed to post (due to 2225 memory timings) while running v1008 and I kept getting a BIOS checksum error when reflashing with v1008. Had to reflash with v1006. Also, one time I didn't get a checksum error, just a lot of beeps. Clearing the CMOS proved troublesome as shown in the next issue.
-Cheap battery terminal. IMO you should not pull the battery when clearing the CMOS with the Jumper (even though the manual says you should). It doesn't have a lever to eject the battery (just two little teeth holding it in) and my battery lost contact with the terminals when I put it back in. Afterwards, when I unplugged the PS the settings in the BIOS were reset.
-Somewhat limited instruction manual.
-Asus LiveUpdate failed to connect to a server on several repeated attempts. It never connected successfully.
-There was no Mobo installation CD in my box!
-This forum software and layout is really limited and frustrating.
-It's been three days now and still no reply to my tech support inquery regarding 2225 memory timings.
MSI K8N Neo4 Platinum (v1.0)
Pro's
-Runs 2225 OCZ Gold Dual Channel RAM at 2225, no issues whatsoever.
-More reliable Bios/System utility. There's a button to load BIOS setup defaults in case of problems. Autorecovery feature flashes factory BIOS version embedded in mobo Core Cell chip.
-Packaging is simply beautiful. Obviously not a big reason to buy it but trust me, it's exceptional.
-Extensive instruction manual, test report, and large fold out color diagram of layout.
-Add-on module with diagnostic LED's.
-Stable
-Performance on par with other nF4 mobos.
-MSI version of LiveUpdate worked flawlessy on every occasion.
-Cheaper than A8N-E with rebate.
-Firewire port
Con's
-Inferior layout, although still better than others (ie Epox 9NPA+ and ATX power connectors). SATA connectors get in the way of my HDD's. x16 PCIe socket sits below x4 PCIe and x1 PCIe slots. This orientation causes my long 6600GT card to get in the way of the back end of one of my HDD's.
-Who need's DUAL Lan? And the ability to run 8 SATA devices is overkill IMO.
-CPU Heatsink Fan mount backplate is GLUED to the backside of the PCB. Had to remove it with a credit card and a hair dryer to make room for my Zalman.
As I'm sure most of your would agree the Memory timing issue with the A8N-E was the deal breaker. I'm sure in time Asus will get around to fixing this with a bios revision. The faulty battery interface was also a downer.
For now, so long Asus! Good luck A8N owners!
Jason

One big pro for the MSI you forgot to mention is this forum. This is by far one of the best forums for any motherboard manufacturer (if only ATI would get the hint ).
IMO I like the 8 SATA ports. I have 4 hard drives in my system, and I am desperately needing more. I have one more SATA slot to fill before I am out. Some people are absolute packrats (like me ) and they need the additional hard drive ports. The other benefit is you can end up using this as a low end server board (which I will be doing in the next couple of weeks). It is by far cheaper then getting a system with opterons. Instead I can just get an X2 for alot less, plus I don't have to spend the extra to get registered memory.
The dual lan can be really help who use ICS. This way they don't have to purchase a router.
Both of these I don't see as cons, as they really don't cause a problem. For you I just wouldn't list them as pros.
But thanks for sharing your ideas, hopefully this can become helpful to others who are determining what mobo to buy.
Have Fun
Jeremy

Why doesn't iplanet 4.19 recognize a line obj.conf "AuthTrans fn="match-browser" browser="*MSIE*" ssl-unclean-shutdown="true""?

We add this line for fixing "page can not be displayed" problem we suffer. But After apply it below "<Object name="default">", according to the document. Admin console shows, "Unknown: AuthTrans: match-browser" in red. Can anybody give me advice to this?Thanks.

I have the same problem.
Can anybody help?
Which version of iPlane I need to use following directive in "obj.conf":
AuthTrans fn="match-browser" browser="*MSIE*" ssl-unclean-shutdown="true".
Is there any alternative of this directive for iPlanet 4.1?
Thanks.

MSI Neo4-F & Athlon64 3700+ E6 1T/2T Memory Timing missing in BIOS

Hi. This is my first post. I need help with my new MSI Neo4-F motherboard. The problem is that 1T/2T Memory Timing is not present in the latest BIOS v.1D. MSI website says that my CPU (San Diego 3700+ E6) is supported by the motherboard but there is no way to control the command rate of the memory thru the BIOS. So far I've been using A64 Tweaker to change command rate to 1T from Windows. Previously I used this CPU with the same memory Kingston KHX3200AK2/1G for another motherboard (MSI Diamond Plus) and I didn't have any problems being able to change the 1T/2T memory timing settings thru the BIOS. I wrote couple of e-mails to MSI TEchnical support but i didn't get a response. Does anyone have any ideas that would help me resolve this issue? Any suggestions will be appreciated. Thanks a lot in advance!

Quote from: BG84 on 05-July-06, 02:57:00
its supposed to be there, i have a 3500+ and a 3800+ and its there, but why does it depend on the cpu if the 1t is there anyway, ?, its there with the 1a 1b 1c and 1d, in dram configuration, second auto put it to manual and 1t, youre supposed to gain a 4% performance, which youre not going to see at all.
Sorry to disagree with your 4% figure but using the 1T setting on the A64s makes a huge difference.
I did a quick check on my current rig using 3dmark 03 and the difference in CPU score was 485 vice 554 making an improvement of over 12%!
I know it's not the best of tests to use for this, but it was quick and points to the "noticable" improvement I've found while doing OC benchmarking with a variety of programs.
Not trying to be argumentative, but I didn't want anybody reading this thread in the future to dismiss the "1T" option as being unimportant.

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